14:59:55 #startmeeting Tor Browser weekly meeting 1 November 2021 14:59:55 Meeting started Mon Nov 1 14:59:55 2021 UTC. The chair is sysrqb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:59:55 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00:08 Hello! I'm not sure who is actually online today 15:00:15 so this may be a very short meeting 15:00:44 welcome to November! 15:00:48 Pad, as usual: https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-tbb-keep 15:01:15 hi! 15:01:52 o/ 15:03:14 o/ 15:03:49 it's a bank holiday here but I was using some time to catchup on things... also not sure where else today it's a bank holiday 15:04:51 Hello! 15:05:00 yeah, I don't know who is observing that bank holiday 15:05:24 banks mostly i would presume 15:05:25 but i am assuming "many countries in europe" 15:05:29 thaks richard 15:05:39 super helpful clarification :) 15:05:46 as opposed to real people I mean :p 15:06:12 o/ 15:06:18 o/ 15:06:34 but bank holidays usually result in real-person holidays, too 15:06:47 because if you can't go to the bank, then what do you do during the day? 15:07:09 hehehe 15:07:10 how am i going to count my money noooooow *pops monocle) 15:07:31 play monopoly, i guess 15:07:45 xD also sorry I thought this was the s61 meeting lol 15:07:45 in any case :) 15:07:51 :3 15:08:00 this summertime / wintertime change is confusing 15:08:05 this will be a nice meeting log :) 15:08:21 hiro: no worries, i was wondering what topic you wanted to discuss :) 15:08:28 boklm: very productive 15:09:15 donuts: do we have any more languages for the YEC banner I need to integrate? 15:09:43 the only new placard translation is DE so far 15:09:56 is this for the Nov 8th release? 15:10:11 (disclaimer: I haven't checked today yet, may more have become available this weekend) 15:10:33 i didn't have anything in mind, just know it's a sort of on-going thing and some time had passed so there may have been updates 15:11:02 oh gotcha, yeah I was going to pass you new assets at the end of the week for that release – and I'll just include whatever new stuff we have by then 15:11:12 kk wfm 15:11:21 I do have some updates to the line breaks on the existing translations too (I got more guidance from translators on that front) 15:11:33 donuts: when you say "at the end of the week", i hope you mean "no later than wednesday" 15:12:03 haha, sure 15:12:07 i added a new string with the linebreaks, and when i updated the file all the reviewes were lost :S 15:12:17 aha I wondered what happened! 15:12:50 okay I will have new files on wednesday with whatever new stuff we have by then :) 15:12:56 that does ot happen when you change .pot files, but i guess the support for text files is more basic 15:13:40 unrelated to applications but I'm going to update web today emmapeel, and will probably stick to doing that on Mondays if I spot anything new 15:15:12 oh, is good to have a rythm 15:15:24 richard: speaking of (kinda), do you have some time after this meeting to prep 11.0a10? 15:15:52 yeah, we can squeeze that in before the interviews this evening 15:16:01 great 15:16:41 we missed that boat last week, but i still want one more alpha before we release 11.0 15:17:25 i'd rather re-build 11.0 over the weekend, if we find a release blocker 15:17:40 instead of being surprised next week after the release 15:18:24 hmm, have we merged anything substantial since 11.0a9? 15:18:34 boklm: thanks again for rebsaing all of the android branches 15:18:52 i'm going to concentrate on reviewing those this week 15:19:28 the only rebase missing is the fenix one, which I think is more complicate 15:19:45 richard: no, but i'd like to make sure any of our fixes, like the new identity button, are working as intended now 15:19:52 i think there is one proxy issue arthur filed we should fix before 11.0 15:20:21 it's supposed to be a pref flip only, though 15:20:24 tor-browser#40676 15:20:31 but i wonder why we did not catch that 15:21:48 * Jeremy_Rand_Talos_ notes that I'm the one who clued in Arthur about that issue 15:22:01 But it turns out Tom noticed it before either of us did 15:22:16 * richard reading 15:22:44 hrm. i see. i knew about that, but I missed that it was included in FF91. 15:23:19 GeKo: I still haven't fully audited 91 (or 92/93/94) 15:23:28 according to the article the firefox fix was added to 91.1, so maybe we missed the minor release batch of tickets 15:23:46 there are some other pref flips that i want to include in 11.0a10, as well 15:23:58 wfm 15:24:20 Honestly I think the new Firefox behavior wrt that proxy thing is insane, but maybe Mozilla has different priorities than we do 15:24:50 richard: i'll write a quick patch for tor-browser#40177 (thorin already did most of the work for us) 15:25:19 Jeremy_Rand_Talos_: they do, unfortunately 15:25:56 :( 15:25:57 keeping firefox up-to-date is a top priority 15:26:56 richard: but you can start prepping the other pieces of the release while i work on the tor-browser fixup! patch 15:27:12 seems kind of strange that web-extensions can even access the browser's proxy settings vOv 15:27:28 sysrqb: sounds good 15:27:54 do we have a ticket somewhere for the disappearing buttons/tor settings on MacOS? I can't find it if so 15:28:15 it's still an issue as of a9, but I'm not sure if there's a fix for it in waiting 15:28:18 is that the first-start bug? 15:28:21 yep 15:29:34 i don't see one 15:30:22 i remember richard looked at it a little bit, but i don't remember if there was a ticket associated with that 15:31:12 what is this issue? 15:31:27 the mac issue you requested logs for 15:31:40 invisible connect/configure buttons on first-start after upgrading to 11.0a9 15:31:54 i thought in the end that happened because you were launching from the dmg or something 15:31:57 oh, maybe we decided it wasn't a real issue if the application was installed in the /applications directory 15:31:59 yeah 15:32:01 let me retest 15:35:04 I'll create a ticket, I'm seeing the issue in /applications now too 15:35:23 i don't see any discussion items, i'll wait a minute in case anyone adds one 15:35:27 donuts: thanks 15:35:27 I have no idea why it wasn't occurring there before, maybe it was still reading some old tor-data folder or something 15:35:54 well great 15:35:59 sorry :/ 15:39:58 richard: please poke at that this week, it's kinda a nasty UX bug :/ 15:40:11 yeah can do 15:40:18 okay, the discussion section is still empty, so i think we're done here 15:40:21 richard: thanks 15:40:22 donuts: if you could file a ticket w/ repro steps that'd be lvoely 15:40:38 yep, on it 15:40:40 thanks everyone, have a good week! 15:40:53 #endmeeting