17:00:26 #startmeeting Network team meeting, 4th october 2021 17:00:26 Meeting started Mon Oct 4 17:00:26 2021 UTC. The chair is ahf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:26 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:28 hello hello 17:00:34 hi hi 17:00:37 our pad is at https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-netteam-2021.1-keep 17:00:38 hi 17:01:11 o/ 17:01:32 * ahf behind on pad update 17:01:35 ok 17:01:40 today is the long meeting 17:01:50 are everybody's dashboards looking good? 17:02:03 yes 17:02:10 yes except for being on this guard thing for so long 17:02:15 (it's harder than I'd thought) 17:02:33 if it's harder then it might not have been for too long! :-) 17:02:41 :) 17:03:01 jnewsome: you know which arti things you wanna dive into or otherwise sync with nickm about them? 17:03:43 ahf we touched base a little bit last week - going to try getting arti running in a small shadow integration test 17:03:53 ya, sounds awesome 17:04:30 https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/team/-/wikis/NetworkTeam/CoreTorReleases <- does our release page look right? i wonder if we should ... maybe change the feature freeze to something more eleborate about the current situation 17:04:36 dgoulet: some of the CC code is in now, right? 17:04:44 or will land this week? 17:04:45 ahf: correct, tpo#40450 is in 17:04:49 sweet 17:04:52 but not enabled 17:04:56 so maybe we could aim for it to be 15th of october? 17:04:58 one needs a custom patch to enable it 17:05:07 oh we still have much to do :S 17:05:13 that is negotiation 17:05:24 ok, so maybe change feature freeze date to be a bit unknown? "Q4 2021" ? 17:05:43 yeah... not entirely sure when that will be in but very much likely this month 17:06:00 ok, let's not give too high hopes then. setting it to Q4 2021 for now 17:06:43 ok done 17:06:53 ok, otherwise looks chill 17:06:54 ahf: another thing 17:07:01 yep? 17:07:10 we need to sync a bit with TB team for the next maintained stable releases for HSv2 removal 17:07:22 those are likely our next releases imo 17:07:26 ya, and then do a TON of releases for that arrival? 17:07:34 2 17:07:36 035 and 045 17:08:03 ah, not too bad - the disabling patch is already in main and 0.4.6? or do we not care about 0.4.6 because of no support? 17:08:26 correct, main and 046 have HSv2 code *removed* ... the patch for 035 and 045 are just safeguards to stop it 17:08:31 perfect 17:08:33 so we only care about 035 and 045 17:08:52 i think from the conversatio with matt last week that they are only a bit behind on schedule for their release? 17:09:00 yup 17:09:05 shouldn't be too hard to follow them 17:09:12 we just need to be wise with regards to open backports 17:09:57 ya 17:10:07 which brings us to the next topic 17:10:17 https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/tor/-/issues?scope=all&utf8=%E2%9C%93&state=opened&label_name[]=Backport 17:10:56 is there any of these that we should consider for the next backporting round? some of them haven't baked long 17:11:14 tor#40424 is something we are still unsure about for example 17:11:49 I think all those: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/tor/-/merge_requests?scope=all&state=opened&label_name[]=Backport 17:12:24 hm, yeah 17:12:30 there are some in there we should absolutely backport 17:12:45 maybe you and i should set some time off to go through these this week? 17:12:50 yes 17:12:51 and get some of them landed 17:12:53 lets do that 17:12:56 ok, sounds good 17:13:56 we have tpo/team#20 as a ticket we created that i have two items on my todo list for: updating tor.git's readme to mention that we focus on client features in arti right now and an update on the same to tor-dev@ 17:13:59 err 17:14:01 tpo/core/team#20 17:14:42 ok 17:15:06 https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/tor/-/merge_requests?scope=all&state=opened&reviewer_username=triage-bot - these are tickets with triage bot as reviewer 17:15:13 which is usually something we do when something is stuck 17:15:16 or not ready for review yet 17:15:45 tor!443 is leaving that state this week. tor!420 is a bit the same? 17:15:56 tor!332 we still have nobody who have tested? 17:16:34 I'll close tor!365 ... the branch exists in my repository so we won't loose it but no point on staying open. 17:16:37 right; tcc is kinda fringe for our usecases 17:17:02 we want to leave it there? it has been stuck there for 6 months 17:17:13 i'd think we can close it for now and bring it up if it becomes relevant again? 17:17:16 okay 17:17:22 +1 17:18:41 i'd also close tor!273 if we aren't gonna backport? 17:18:59 seems ok to me 17:19:09 done 17:19:26 ok, that is some fine cleanup 17:19:52 looks like we have ACT and NHT team tickets under control 17:20:14 ok! 17:20:27 and we have no discussion items or announcements. on thursday we need to talk about new team members joining 17:20:37 does anybody have anything they want to talk about today? :-) 17:20:51 ahf: At our roadmapping meeting on thursday we talked about a lot of things where we said... 17:20:58 ... "we should make sure that we do x" 17:21:06 do we have a list of those, or did we open tickets or something? 17:21:36 it's all in https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/team/-/wikis/Roadmap thanks to gaba 17:21:42 whoa cool 17:21:45 thanks to gaba indeed! 17:22:43 there are some things where we need to go over it with some references to the actionable part of the task 17:22:45 i haven't done that yet 17:24:05 ok - anything else we need to dive into? 17:24:37 otherwise i'd say we return to whatever we wanted to do before we got moved into the meeting 8) 17:24:46 yay 17:24:47 great 17:24:50 awesome 17:24:51 thanks folk 17:24:53 #endmeeting