15:59:38 #startmeeting network health 09/13/2021 15:59:38 Meeting started Mon Sep 13 15:59:38 2021 UTC. The chair is GeKo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:59:38 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:59:47 hello everyone! 16:00:00 hey o/ 16:00:02 let's do another network-health sync this week 16:00:11 http://kfahv6wfkbezjyg4r6mlhpmieydbebr5vkok5r34ya464gqz6c44bnyd.onion/p/tor-nethealthteam-2021.1-keep is the pad as usual 16:00:25 feel free to add your items there and mark them as bold 16:00:36 or put them up under dicsussion items and then we talk about them 16:01:07 ggus: it might just be you and me today, should be fast :) 16:01:17 but let's wait a bit more 16:01:23 maybe other folks start to join 16:02:13 ok, i would like to discuss the next EOL removal 16:02:36 okay 16:02:41 let's do it 16:02:50 maybe just start? 16:03:25 i have on my plate to finish the policy for this week 16:03:32 last time we had 3 comms approach 16:03:39 which we can then try out irl :) 16:03:55 1. contacting by email/twitter operators that we already knew 16:04:25 2. contacted by email all the others 16:04:33 3. social media (mastodon/twitter) announcements 16:05:00 for #2, i think we shouldn't copy network-health mailing list 16:05:04 4. doing nothing if we had no (valid) contact info 16:05:39 yeah. i've been wondering, though, whether we should create a new mailing list for general network-health alerts 16:05:48 yeah, and that why having #3 is/was important. 16:05:51 and we could use that one this this kind of contacting, too 16:06:11 s/one this this/one for this/ 16:06:21 right 16:07:00 hum, general net-healht alerts mailing list seems a good idea 16:07:15 i want to get a bunch of other alerts sent somewhere 16:07:27 e.g. like overload alerts from prometheus at some point 16:07:43 and that's nothing that needs to be on the sekrit alerts list 16:08:04 so have a general list for this kind of thing might make sense 16:08:12 +1 yeah 16:08:24 and contacting operators about eol versions is kind of an alert, too 16:08:29 :) 16:08:45 ok, if you like it i'll talk to hiro 16:08:54 and if we still like it i'll get that list going 16:10:01 the other question is: when we want to start contacting people. 16:10:20 so, what about we fix our policy this week 16:10:26 and then start next week? 16:10:42 i'll need to think about the tooling, though 16:10:43 lgtm! 16:11:21 we'll see how i can manage to write something in parallel without dragging the contacting of folks too long 16:11:50 i think next week we could review the relays operators into three groups. orgs/people that we know, people who have contact_info, and without contact_info 16:12:00 then we can estimate how much work that will be 16:12:18 sure 16:12:46 ggus: meanwhile, if you could go over the proposed policy and add missing pieces or mention them that would be nice 16:12:50 let me find the link 16:14:55 hrm, i thought i already put it on the wiki 16:16:26 ggus: https://pad.riseup.net/p/PcR1Y_VJ2ds4Rr66lWWv 16:17:10 okay, anything else for today? 16:17:23 loading 16:17:40 ggus: oh, i've sent the slides about the n-h okrs 16:18:04 the okrs do not contain anything related to relay growth/relay community efforts 16:18:14 mainly because i failed to okr-ify that part 16:18:21 i'll mention that in my talk 16:18:41 and have one item about that stuff on the last slide 16:18:51 (where there were no okr constraints :)) 16:18:53 that's okay. my okr presentation will happen in october 16:18:59 let me know if that works for you 16:19:15 if you have any feedback to those slides from your perspective, let me know 16:19:22 we will onboard a new user support person, so i need to wait that 16:19:23 i am happy to make changes where needed 16:19:31 ok! 16:19:37 k 16:19:57 do you want to jump in a call to do a debrief? 16:20:26 hrm, hrm 16:20:27 i have 40 minutes available before moving to a new task 16:20:51 i am torn between leaving early today and doing it later and doing it now 16:20:59 what about 1800utc? 16:21:03 or better 1830? 16:21:29 i will be on a meeting with isa 16:21:44 1900? 16:22:03 wfm 16:22:21 great, let's chat then? 16:22:25 i'll ping you when i am around 16:22:32 perfect! 16:22:43 maybe arma2 would even be around, too, then ;) 16:22:45 okay 16:22:54 i think that might cover it for today 16:23:02 anything last minute? 16:23:10 i'm good! 16:23:29 ttyl then and have a nice week 16:23:32 #endmeeting