16:00:15 #startmeeting tor anti-censorship meeting 16:00:15 Meeting started Thu Sep 9 16:00:15 2021 UTC. The chair is cohosh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:15 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00:18 hi everyone! 16:00:21 welcome :) 16:00:25 hello 16:00:35 hallo 16:00:36 here is our meeting pad: https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-anti-censorship-keep 16:00:51 feel free to add what you've been working on and put items on the agenda 16:05:23 ... or just jump in with discussion since it seems like a quiet day 16:07:02 Is there consensus as to what's going wrong with https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/issues/40061 16:07:38 2 people went to the trouble of making a gitlab account and finding an existing ticket 16:07:49 is it just a case of them getting unlucky with proxies? 16:08:02 I was thinking to ask them to enable the snowflake.log 16:08:02 hmm, i'm not sure 16:09:03 my suspicion is that they are getting unlucky with proxies and then the client times out 16:09:11 but enabling snowflake.log would tell us more 16:10:14 i think that's a good next step 16:10:25 ok, I'll say that in the ticket 16:10:40 but if the client does timeout should it reconnect to another proxy? 16:12:22 anyway, let's see if they can provide logs 16:12:39 meskio: right, this is if the SOCKS connection times out 16:12:50 or the tor circuit timeout is reached 16:13:29 which happens if it takes > 2 mins to get a working proxy 16:14:02 looking at the broker metrics, we are very short on unrestricted proxies still 16:16:10 $Cif we are done with this topic I have another short one 16:16:35 meskio: ok! go for it :) 16:17:01 two weeks ago a person asked in tor-relays about rotating IPs of bridges 16:17:22 if it was ok to rotate their VM IPs once per year or it was dependent of the pool the bridge is 16:17:41 I guess we are happy with IP rotation as long as they are not in the private human handled pool 16:17:58 but AFAIK no "random" bridge gets there, only manually added ones, isn't it? 16:18:07 I can answer, but I was not 100% about it 16:19:02 https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2021-August/019788.html 16:19:11 that one :) 16:19:41 yeah that should be okay in the sense that if they rotate their IP, BridgeDB will stop handing out the old IP and hand out the new one instead 16:19:41 I don't know how the pool assignment works 16:20:02 pool assignment is done based on a hash of the fingerprint 16:21:18 cool, I can answer to them 16:21:43 in terms of usefulness, i don't have good numbers here. there are a few places we know of that enumerate BridgeDB bridges and getting fresh IP addresses might help users in those locations by providing them with a bridge before it is discovered and blocked 16:26:58 i guess bridge operators can also specify which pool they want to be in 16:27:52 anything else for today? 16:28:22 not from my side 16:30:03 okay i can end the meeting here 16:30:11 #endmeeting