18:01:17 #startmeeting Tor Browser meeting 14 September 2020 18:01:17 Meeting started Mon Sep 14 18:01:17 2020 UTC. The chair is sysrqb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:01:17 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:01:18 hello! 18:01:44 hello 18:02:10 o/ 18:02:34 o/ 18:02:36 hi! 18:02:48 hi 18:03:19 pad in http://kfahv6wfkbezjyg4r6mlhpmieydbebr5vkok5r34ya464gqz6c44bnyd.onion/p/tor-tbb-2020-keep as always 18:05:13 hello! 18:07:24 do we have anything in the agenda for today? 18:08:41 i only have a questoin for antonela about the EOY campaign 18:09:15 i don't see any othe ritems for discussion on the pad 18:09:44 the the Tor Browser 10.0 release is approaching very fast 18:10:13 and desktop is looking good, considering everything we're working on 18:10:33 Android is still coming together, but we're making progress on it 18:10:43 i guess, on that note, i can add one more discussion item 18:11:28 yep, tell me 18:11:28 i'll start with my quick question for antonela 18:11:33 antonela: hey! :) 18:11:41 heyhey :) 18:11:58 should i take the EOY strings from the graphic on https://use-tor.glitch.me/ ? 18:12:08 three strings 18:12:37 "Use a mask, ...", "Resist ..", and "Donate Now" 18:12:37 yes, i can make it explicit in the ticket 18:12:44 we already have donate now 18:12:48 that would be even better 18:12:50 yeah 18:12:56 i realied that after I said "three strings" 18:13:02 so, good, only need two new trings 18:13:08 *realized 18:13:28 and we should get those into transifex today 18:13:49 super, im linking the l10n ticket to https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser/-/issues/40113 18:14:06 perfect 18:14:53 okay, this should be easy 18:15:00 that's all i had for this item 18:15:25 yes, could you update tpo/community/l10n#40004 once the strings are live? 18:15:31 do we have android nightlies yet? http://f4amtbsowhix7rrf.onion/tor-browser-builds/ is asking for auth 18:15:32 so erin can get a ping 18:15:47 mikeperry: the auth prompt tells you the u+p 18:15:59 mikeperry: tor-guest:tor-guest as the auth dialog say 18:16:00 s 18:16:07 but no, we don't nightly builds are taking a few days right now 18:16:07 but, no 18:16:32 antonela: yes, I/we can do that 18:16:37 jumping topics, also that, what is the most recent fenix build? 18:16:40 sysrqb: thank you! 18:16:50 well, i guess boklm's mr for rbm#40005 is promising 18:16:58 err 18:17:02 rbm#40004 18:17:17 so, i guess i'll spend some time testing that 18:17:21 and merging asap 18:18:04 nice. 45 -> 4min 18:18:07 mikeperry: did i get that right but you looked at the mozilla code between 79 and 81 for proxy issues 18:18:11 ? 18:18:12 yeah 18:18:28 oh wow 18:18:34 mozilla = mozilla-central 18:18:38 quite an improvement 18:18:40 GeKo: in gecko-dev for desktop, yes. for android calls, I checked the whole tree for all three repos 18:18:46 as of FF81 18:19:09 and gecko-dev for mobile? 18:19:33 yes I searched the whole gecko-dev tree for android calls, at FF81beta 18:19:39 great 18:19:41 thanks 18:20:47 antonela: we don't have a recent build for android 18:20:49 https://people.torproject.org/~sysrqb/base_ui/14/ 18:21:05 okidoki 18:21:06 that has an older test build 18:21:14 ye, i have it 18:21:14 but it's the most recent now 18:21:33 i hope I can build some today 18:21:59 and then we should get nightlies this week 18:22:14 i don't know if we'll get them tomorrow or on thursday... 18:22:43 thats good 18:22:46 which, on that note, is a decent transition into the second discussion topic i posted 18:23:22 The Android Tor Browser 10.0 release is delayed by at least a week, maybe more 18:24:06 in the Desktop 10.0 release, we should say something about this, and give a recommendation for current users 18:24:22 GeKo raised this concern earlier 18:24:33 * antonela noted 18:24:47 and I think we shouldn't recommend not using Android tor browser 18:25:16 but we should give clear guidance 18:25:58 and I'm not sure how we should phrase the statement such that it doesn't scare away users 18:26:09 GeKo said he'll think about this during this week 18:26:22 so we can discuss this at next week's meeting, too 18:26:29 before we publish the release 18:26:56 but if other people have sthoughts/suggestions, please let us know 18:27:25 it is because we wont know if there is some catastrophe in the window period right? because mozilla wont care for it? 18:27:39 correct 18:27:41 sysrqb, what was the intended release date prior to the week+ delay? 18:28:12 while i think a 0day is unlikely in that window, we should take that possibility seriously 18:28:21 Jeremy_Rand_Talos: this coming Tuesday 18:28:24 the same as desktop 18:28:36 ok 18:28:39 err, i guess next tuesday 18:28:46 (not tomorrow) 18:28:54 the 22nd? 18:28:57 yes 18:29:01 ok 18:30:29 okay, we can leave this topic here 18:30:37 and make a decision next week 18:31:08 In the announcement section there are a few items 18:31:24 most of them are about upcoming releases 18:32:00 i don't really have the space in my brain to think about mentoring someone right now 18:32:10 :) 18:32:18 but if any of you do, please look at that ticket 18:32:45 i am glad how gsoc went during all that 10.0 prep, i think i'll pass :) 18:32:55 heh 18:33:07 idk,i see your name on there for exitmap :) 18:33:25 but at least it's not tor browser-related 18:33:52 o_O 18:33:55 oookay 18:34:02 XD 18:34:16 it is the other hat that is happy with it 18:34:25 ha! 18:34:31 conflicts amongst all the hats 18:34:36 lol 18:34:55 i guess i need to talk seriously to all my hats at some point... 18:35:07 you need a coordination meeting :-P 18:35:10 intervention 18:35:20 a PM 18:35:45 heh 18:36:00 okay, anything else for this meeting? 18:36:40 * sysrqb assumes not 18:36:46 thanks everyone o/ 18:36:48 #endmeeting