00:03:35 #startmeeting s55 - IPv6 support 00:03:35 Meeting started Thu Mar 19 00:03:35 2020 UTC. The chair is gaba. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 00:03:35 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 00:03:40 the pad is here: https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-s55-ipv6-project-keep 00:03:55 teor: is that status update for this meeting? 00:05:32 yes 00:06:47 I'm just working on the list of tickets for the next 2 weeks 00:07:03 yes, sounds good 00:07:07 nickm: will you have time to do #32588 in the next week, or should I take it back? 00:07:12 do you need any help with that in the next couple of weeks? 00:08:11 teor: i think i can do it by end-of-day on (my) friday, but if I haven't, you should probably take it back? 00:08:14 gaba: any help with what? 00:08:22 nickm: thanks! 00:08:30 you answer right when i was asking :P 00:08:33 I think i'll have it done though. Or at least usefully started 00:08:44 teor: anything else I can help with? I'm keeping an eye out for stuff to review 00:10:20 I'd need people to do bug triage, answer questions on the mailing list, and help GSOC and Outreachy applicants 00:10:29 (And other people on IRC) 00:10:35 It's a significant workload, and I'm doing most of it 00:11:18 i've been trying to do those when i'm online, but i can't do too much. I think you might need to commit to dropping most of it in order to get others to join in. 00:12:06 I did that for 2 weeks, and what happened was that not much got done 00:12:18 I think we should drop gsoc 00:12:29 Why GSOC ? 00:12:51 because outreachy bring a diverse set of people that we need right now 00:12:56 gsoc does not 00:13:47 Ok, I'm sorry, I don't think we can have this particular conversation in public, in a channel we've told applicants to join 00:14:05 we've found with reviews that doing regular review assignments helps us go more smoothly. 00:14:22 teor: right 00:14:26 yes 00:14:33 maybe we need to assign this volunteer-helping thing? 00:14:43 nickm: what do you mean? 00:14:50 yes, I think that would be very helpful 00:15:05 oh, assign to somebody else in the team 00:15:09 yes 00:15:09 for the next couple of weeks 00:15:18 yes, i agree 00:15:19 or assign each question/volunteer to somebody 00:15:29 doesn't have to be all the same person 00:15:32 let's bring it to the meeting on monday? 00:15:51 in general, when we say "let's all do something", then the people who actually do it are the people who find it hard to ignore 00:15:54 in the meantime can we recruit somebody in addition to me to try to help on this? 00:16:34 ok 00:16:41 so for things like this, I'd like us to stop saying "let's all try harder" 00:16:47 I can ping people to see who can help with it. 00:17:02 teor: that's not what I'm proposing. did you see my proposal? 00:17:24 teor: I'm proposing that rather than have joint responsibility, we assign particular responsibility 00:17:40 Yes, I see that's what you're proposing now 00:17:41 gaba: let's also start a conversation on network-team about what might work here for assigning responsibility 00:17:56 ok 00:18:56 I'm saying that in future, can we please stop saying "let's all try harder". Multiple people have given that feedback. I've said it a few times over the last few years, and I feel like I'm not being listened to. 00:20:28 teor: nobody is saying that in this context, though, I think 00:20:59 I agree with you that we "everybody pays more attention to X" has failed us a bunch 00:22:23 I'm not talking about this context right now 00:22:34 ah, I didn't get that part. 00:23:18 teor: by bug triage, do you mean the kind of thing that used to happen under the triage rotation? 00:23:22 if so I can take that up. 00:25:52 nickm: you can do it this week and we can bring this to the meeting on monday 00:25:54 I am finding this conversation really difficult 00:26:12 nickm: I can see that you just want to solve the immediate problem right now 00:26:29 Let's schedule a different time for you to listen to my general feedback? 00:27:00 that would probably make more sense; especially with context for me 00:27:32 right now, I'm operating in the context of "I've said the same thing a few times over the last few years, and I feel like I'm not being listened to." 00:27:44 So it's going to be difficult for me to switch contexts 00:27:59 but I will do my best 00:29:22 ok. We can bring this conversation to other time. 00:29:31 is there anything else about this project to coordinate right now? 00:30:38 Sorry, the whole thing about talking about dropping applicants in public has also really thrown me 00:31:01 I'm so sorry about that. I should have not bring that to this meeting. 00:31:25 to be clear, it is not a unilateral choice, and it is not a choice that has been made 00:33:32 Anything else? 00:33:35 I was expecting this to be a routine meeting, do you mind if I send you both a message over Signal? 00:34:07 that is fine 00:34:29 thanks, let's talk more another time? 00:35:58 sure 00:36:15 I'm going to end the meeting now then. Next meeting will be in 2 weeks. 00:36:35 #endmeeting