18:59:07 #startmeeting network-health 18:59:07 Meeting started Mon Mar 16 18:59:07 2020 UTC. The chair is GeKo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:59:07 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:59:19 let's see how many we'll be today 18:59:27 might be a shorter meeting :) 18:59:38 pad: https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-networkhealth-2020.1-keep 18:59:42 the pad with status updates as usual 18:59:43 ^ 18:59:52 hah, gaba beat me to it, thanks :) 19:00:02 :) 19:00:09 there is still time to add discussion items it seems 19:00:21 but nothing bold so far in the status updates 19:00:46 ggus: should we talk about the situation for #32672? 19:01:09 so, phw contacted a bunch of bridge operators 19:01:27 GeKo: yes 19:01:28 which is guess covers the bridge side of things 19:01:33 *i guess 19:01:50 then dgoulet told me that the fix got merged to master 19:01:50 this week i can only work on this issue 19:01:59 but let me chek that 19:02:12 i think we need to do the social media buzz 19:02:26 yeah 19:02:42 okay, yes, it got merged 19:02:58 one thing i don't know yet are the plans for backporting it to older stable branches 19:03:09 and releases so that dir auths are picking that up 19:03:25 not sure if that's needed for the buzz, though 19:03:38 if so, we should talk to the network team folks about timelines and such 19:04:38 okay, the patch is not on maint-0.4.2 yet 19:04:45 if it get merged, it's already blocking all those relays or not yet? 19:05:12 and not on maint-0.3.5 19:05:16 well, no 19:05:33 only when dir auths update their tor and that tor contains the patch 19:05:39 ok 19:06:04 the patch is marked for backport but won't be in the upcoming security releases 19:06:10 (afaict) 19:06:12 i think if we give one week (like until next monday), it's a good deadline, so people have weekend to do this 19:06:33 give one week for what? 19:06:46 before updating the dir auths? 19:06:59 and blocking the relays? 19:07:12 well, the dir auths won't update that fast 19:07:29 as there is no new tor version coming out soonish containing the blocking code 19:07:43 right 19:08:12 so, if you think we need something like "now is the time to upgrade your relays, because next week they will get kicked out of the network" 19:08:19 then this week is not the week :) 19:08:26 ok 19:08:35 i don't know how this social media stuff works 19:08:50 but if folks really need a deadline like that for it to get things done 19:09:04 the release may be a little late this time 19:09:11 we should coordinate with the network team for releases containing that fix 19:10:09 gaba: well, it depends on what we want 19:10:16 as we hold all the pieces in our hands :) 19:10:26 well, my experience with CFP: people send it at the last day and at the last hour. 19:10:32 so deadlines are good 19:11:27 yep 19:12:12 so, let's talk with the network team about deadlines, now that the fix got merged? 19:12:46 i guess they are flexible here 19:13:21 ggus: or maybe we do social media now 19:13:24 do we want a tweet/toot this week about upgrading your relay?(i think so) 19:13:33 and then once the deadline is close, too? 19:13:39 yes 19:13:47 sounds good 19:14:10 we can say now, that the fix got merged (please upgrade) 19:14:34 and then later a reminder that the thing is about to get deployed and shit is getting real :) 19:14:38 works for me 19:14:51 i guess we should talk to steph about that? 19:14:59 yes, i can do that 19:15:01 ggus: would you coordinate all this? 19:15:13 read my mind :P 19:15:19 hehe :) 19:15:28 okay, great, we have a plan 19:15:48 and i can talk to ping network-team folks thinking about when to have the actual backports 19:15:57 s/talk to// 19:16:13 (in the sense that they manifest in releases) 19:17:11 okay, do we have anything else we should talk about today? 19:17:57 silence :) 19:18:17 i also have the tor association form ready, but since iff, cryptorave and all my workshops were cancelled 19:18:17 thanks then everyone, have a nice week and stay safe there outside 19:18:28 aha 19:18:28 i'm running in emergency mode 19:18:42 so we don't need to discuss this now 19:18:44 yeah 19:19:05 ack. whenever you think it's worthwile, just put it on the agenda 19:19:10 but thanks for the update 19:19:59 okay, but now, as i said above, a nice and safe week everyone o/ 19:20:01 #endmeeting