17:59:16 #startmeeting anti-censorship check in 2020-03-05 17:59:16 Meeting started Thu Mar 5 17:59:16 2020 UTC. The chair is cohosh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:59:16 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:59:23 hi! 17:59:30 hi 17:59:34 our meeting pad is here: https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-anti-censorship-keep 17:59:41 hi 18:00:08 we don't have much on the agenda today 18:00:31 as an announcement, it looks like privacytools.io has mentioned snowflake as a recommended browser add-on 18:00:35 so that's cool 18:01:15 and to follow up on the IFF discussion last week, i think IFF has been cancelled this year? 18:02:07 ya https://blog.torproject.org/iff-tor-village-valencia 18:02:15 that's unfortunate :/ 18:02:51 hopefully we can find another event for that sponsor30 usability work 18:03:14 any other items we should add to the agenda today? 18:03:23 those in-person usability tests are an amazing thing to witness 18:04:07 yeah, it seems like it :D 18:04:50 i guess another announcement is that we are participating in GSoC this year 18:05:09 there are a few anti-censorhsip project ideas 18:05:16 our ideas page is here: https://community.torproject.org/gsoc/ 18:06:16 thats cool :) 18:06:55 agix: "what is the preferred way for you guys to submit a fix? Should I just push my branch or submit a patch as an attachment on the ticket?" 18:07:04 either an attached patch or a ticket is fine 18:07:19 hi! 18:07:20 if it's just one commit and unlikely to need revision I often attach a patch 18:07:34 if it's more commits or something that needs iteration, usually a branch 18:07:55 Use `git format-patch` for the patches and they're easy 18:08:01 dcf1: thanks for the clarification :) 18:09:07 agix: for #31528, if you submit a patch that changes the strings, the strings will be automatically updated in Transifex when the patch is merged 18:09:20 transifex is the tool we use for managing translations 18:09:56 so long story short: don't worry about it now. despite the fact that some of these strings have been translated i think we still want to move away from them 18:10:25 cohosh: I see, but the actual translation will be done by a volunteer? 18:10:34 yes, that's right 18:10:41 cohosh: okay thanks 18:10:54 no problem, thanks for working on these tickets! 18:11:47 dcf1: RE #32938, i'm waffling on whether i think this approach is a good idea 18:12:20 like whether it is a useful UI improvement 18:12:40 was the 0.2.2 webext update about making this change in the browser proxies? 18:12:50 i'm going to look at #32938 18:13:01 no that was just a translation update 18:13:14 we got a lot of progress on translations recently and i wanted to push those changes out 18:13:19 ok 18:13:54 thanks for taking a look, and don't be afraid to say the feature is undesirable 18:14:28 okay, any other needs help with? 18:16:26 i did a little summary about some of issues regarding setting up bridgedb. should i get in touch with phw and discuss with him some of my findings, once he is back? 18:16:56 agix: that would be great. if there is documentation that can be improved, you can also create a ticket for it 18:16:59 and put the information there 18:17:15 ok cool :) 18:17:55 if there's nothing else, i guess i'll end the meeting 18:18:11 oh dcf1 do you have an idea of the time frame for turbo tunnel testing? 18:18:57 haven't gotten much useful feedback yet except from arma2 18:19:15 i was going to make a ticket to talk about merging it 18:19:40 ok 18:19:51 modulo #33519, it's working well for me at least, I've been able to use the snowflake browser as primary the past couple of weeks 18:19:54 fwiw i've been using it and enjoying the experience a lot more than pre-turbotunnel snowflake 18:20:09 thanks, good to know 18:20:34 i downloaded some significantly sized files over it and it went well 18:21:03 https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#details/5481936581E23D2D178105D44DB6915AB06BFB7F 18:21:29 The "written bytes" and "read bytes" lines are staring to diverge... I don't know how to interpret that. 18:21:45 but I guess it's something to do with the testing packages 18:22:06 o.O 18:22:34 is this outbound vs. inbound traffic? 18:22:42 i have actually never thought to look at those graphs 18:23:13 i don't know what it means exactly to be honest. but it's atypical that the two graphs should track so closely, as snowflake's has until recently. 18:24:35 look at some obfs4 bridges, those lines seem pretty close 18:24:51 try like moria1 though https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#details/9695DFC35FFEB861329B9F1AB04C46397020CE31 18:25:20 ah what 18:25:36 but actually you're right, default obfs4 zipfelmuete has almost identical lines 18:25:39 https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#details/5F161D2E5713C93F16FEEDD63178E37208AA78DF 18:25:58 maybe it's different for bridges. ok, I don't know what to think 18:26:50 we could ask someone from metrics 18:27:08 maybe after the meeting though 18:27:43 okay, anything else? if not i'll end the meeting in a minute 18:29:22 #endmeeting