14:09:33 #startmeeting 14:09:33 Meeting started Thu Mar 5 14:09:33 2020 UTC. The chair is hiro. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:09:33 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:09:36 ok! 14:09:54 ggus pili there are only two things on the agenda that are carry over from last week 14:10:01 but feel free to add more 14:10:04 :) 14:10:36 (I'm 50% here, sorry) 14:10:37 I have a beginning of the month triage 14:10:38 for websites today 14:11:08 Can we postpone this for next week? 14:11:19 I'd like to migrate dip today 14:12:24 hello hello 14:13:03 hiro: sure 14:14:36 I'm 100% here now 14:15:24 i'm done 14:15:37 ok 14:15:43 so I see everyone has their updates 14:15:50 let's start with the first topic 14:15:58 #topic add onion addresses 14:16:09 I think antonela suggestion is what we should do 14:16:44 there might be situation where the user is taken out of the .onion 14:16:49 especially when switching portal 14:16:56 true 14:17:16 but with the headers we should be able to bring the user back into onion space 14:17:20 but if the user opt-in for the onion (in tor browser for now) can get the onion back 14:17:21 yes 14:17:42 i remember someone opening a ticket in trac saying that accessing the main website via .onion all the links still were '.org' 14:18:24 yep 14:18:39 I think most of the link are absolute links 14:18:56 because like support.tp.o and community.tp.o are on two different subdomains 14:18:57 if we use alt-svc we mitigate that? or do we need to change all links? 14:18:59 ggus: yup, me too if we're talking about the recent one 14:19:28 we can't change the links... we serve static pages 14:19:45 but we can map links to onions like in https://onion.torproject.org/ 14:19:54 and serve the appropriate headers on the page 14:21:29 sounds great to me :) 14:21:53 ooook 14:21:57 and is a great way to showcase some of the recent S27 work 14:22:06 or at least take advantage 14:22:38 ooooook 14:22:48 (I'm done) 14:23:02 welll the donate flow iteration is done apparently 14:23:12 so the next topic is S27 documentation updates 14:23:20 si, i created the tb ticket, devs worked on it and i updated www 14:23:25 #topic S27 documentation updates 14:23:35 for S27, I created a bunch of tickets about this 14:24:03 now I'm not sure what to do with them :) as in how to assign them and we had discussed maybe assigning them to the docshackathon 14:24:08 so I wanted to hear people's ideas on this 14:24:17 when is the hackaton planned for? 14:24:25 pili: when the release is planned? 14:25:02 it's all coming out in alphas 14:25:19 different ones 14:25:29 e.g some of these features are already on the latest alpha 14:25:35 I can get you a full breakdown though 14:26:19 the stable release, i mean 14:27:14 next stable release is currently planned for mid April 14:27:22 as in 9.5 stable 14:27:30 oops sorry im late 14:27:50 and I'm assuming/hoping most if not all of these features in alpha will make it to 9.5 stable 14:28:58 c1e0 started to work on part of this documentation 14:29:07 but we can follow up during docshackathon 14:29:21 yup :) 14:29:34 ok 14:30:10 when is the docs hackaton again? 14:30:59 end of the month iirc 14:31:18 yes, last week of march 14:31:21 ok I'd like to take that week to do mostly website stuff 14:31:27 yay :D 14:31:29 so I can help with template issues or other stuff 14:31:43 cool! 14:31:48 could you or ggus send an email to the www list? 14:31:49 I can concentrate on dev portal myself 14:31:52 with the dates? 14:32:04 maybe others in that list will like to participate 14:32:21 hiro: we will have a blog post 14:32:22 unless there was an email to tor-project that I missed 14:32:31 we still have no blogpost, we should have some nice blogpost so tgeek can ask for day at work as well 14:32:36 yeah but I don't check the blog xD 14:32:46 i sent an email to tor-project but was to ask for new tickets for docs 14:32:47 and maybe others in that list don't either 14:32:54 pre-hackathon 14:33:16 or just tell em the exact dates and I'll send the email 14:33:21 I have to send the report too anyways 14:34:09 23- 28 march 14:34:37 cool 14:35:28 ok guys 14:35:32 do we have any other topic? 14:36:29 any resolution about the glossary? 14:37:11 yeah me and emmapeel had a short call and fixed the issue with localization 14:37:16 emmapeel want to tell about that? 14:37:24 #topic glossary 14:37:28 anything we should know? 14:37:32 not really 14:37:39 localization? we were talkin gabout the new glossary model, made some changes 14:37:48 yeah that ^ 14:38:10 before I had in the model the original_term that doesn't get translated nad the term that gets translated 14:38:15 we hacked on this a bit 14:38:17 i mean word model, from the glossary. now 'somebody'(tm) should move the contents 14:38:19 and we now have only the term 14:38:44 and we get the original term via the id of the term 14:38:47 more or less 14:40:15 I can try to move the content 14:40:21 maybe during the docs hackaton 14:40:45 if we have some instructions, we can find volunteers to do this 14:40:52 i can open a ticket 14:41:08 with nice instructions for newbies 14:41:27 I wanted to make a script 14:41:34 im asking because the new docs we need for s27 can easily link to known words 14:42:40 antonela: the links will only change slightly, from support.torproject.org/misc/glossary/#tor to support.torproject.org/glossary/tor 14:43:06 antonela: do you think we should update the glossary for S27 also then? 14:43:13 so maybe you can try with the current words and then we just replace a bit (that is not so hard to do and i can do it 14:43:38 ok 14:43:41 i think so 14:44:08 like we have core wording happening: onion routing, onion services, authentication and so on 14:44:13 there are also new words c1e0 added in some not-yet-merged PRs 14:44:36 ok, we should open a ticket for that then, I don't think there is one 14:44:48 for the glossary? 14:45:03 I guess, if we need to add new terms 14:45:07 or update the content 14:45:13 or maybe it falls under the support updates 14:45:20 https://support.torproject.org/glossary/ 14:45:20 since the glossary is in support? 14:45:34 is were words will live? 14:45:39 *where 14:46:26 antonela: yes. you need to create them with a special model now, the example is https://gitweb.torproject.org/project/web/support.git/tree/content/glossary/little-t-tor/contents.lr 14:46:32 perfect 14:46:36 I'll add a comment to the tickets on support portal updates if so 14:47:52 and what happen with all the content we have in misc? 14:48:28 like misc/glossary 14:48:33 is that what we should move? 14:48:37 that has to be migrated 14:48:39 yes 14:48:45 my idea was to make a script and move it 14:48:51 during the docs hackaton 14:49:02 i see 14:49:14 or someone has to move that before 14:49:18 I am ok with that too 14:49:32 i mean, im trying to understand the effort 14:49:40 because i think is critical for the docs 14:49:46 but maybe am i wrong 14:49:58 if it's critical I can try to script this before the hackaton 14:50:13 but I need to finish dip first 14:50:38 yes 14:50:41 what does everybody else think? 14:50:57 but are we going to rely on collabs for the s27 docs? 14:50:59 for the S27 docs? 14:51:02 i would like to have it finished and i didnt move them because i would do it by hand and it will take me ages 14:51:03 does this need to happen likebefore the hackaton? 14:51:12 I don't think so 14:51:19 especially since stable is not until mid April 14:51:20 but i think we should finish the support portal eventually 14:51:26 and the hackathon is end of march 14:51:47 i think we are mixing all the meeting topics now hehe 14:52:00 docshackathon, s27, glossary, dip migration 14:52:06 now, for the overall onion services strategy it may be more important not sure :) 14:52:08 ggus: :P 14:52:19 well, is somehow related 14:52:59 for s27: it's critical when hits tor browser stable. because this documentation is for users first. 14:53:14 yes 14:53:16 right 14:53:31 could be nice to have it earlier tho, so it reaches l10n 14:53:40 true 14:53:43 like now, alpha links are broken 14:54:12 for tor browser 9.5 we also will need snowflake? how this is going? because we don't have anything about it in support portal atm 14:54:33 ? 14:54:36 well, you could add the new terms with the example i pasted before. then, we wait for moving the old terms 14:55:10 ggus: is there a ticket? if not I will create 14:55:25 (we need to vacate in 4 minutes for metrics team) 14:55:36 pili: maybe in trac 14:56:32 I'll end the meeting 14:56:41 please continue talking in t he www channell 14:56:47 #endmeeting