15:59:24 #startmeeting Community Team - 10-28-2019 15:59:24 Meeting started Mon Oct 28 15:59:24 2019 UTC. The chair is ggus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:59:24 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:59:30 hello! 15:59:36 Community Team meeting starting now :) 15:59:37 wait pili isn't it "spring forward fall back" 15:59:46 in question 9, there is some mention of "above message" but there is no message or SS ! 15:59:56 so my clock will move back, and that means... the team meeting will be earlier 15:59:58 o/ 16:00:06 \o 16:00:07 (for me) 16:00:16 Please update the pad - https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-community-team-2019-keep 16:00:35 i'll grab a tea while people update it :) 16:00:50 my clock won't move at all in my country luckily 16:01:17 that's easy Highflyer910 :) 16:01:25 It's such a pain when they do 16:02:03 bluemoon: agree:) 16:02:04 yes Mac_10101 I think I noticed that as well 16:03:55 bluemoon: I'm a mess of timezones atm after travelling and clocks changing :) all I know is that the UTC time is always constant so if your clocks changed last weekend then this meeting will be at a different time from what you are used to 16:04:23 bluemoon: did you receive my last email? i sent last friday 16:06:57 o/ 16:07:07 * antonela is nearby 16:07:56 \o hey antonela 16:14:47 ggus from you last email I have is the support questions 16:14:57 is that the one? 16:15:11 yep 16:16:35 people are still updating, last wait 2 minutes more and we start 16:19:36 ok, let's start 16:20:09 Last friday I submited some questions to you by email. Did you receive it? 16:20:33 + 16:20:38 I received ggus 16:20:56 I did too 16:21:21 Same :D 16:21:21 yes! 16:21:34 yah ggus, Package received :D 16:21:45 great! if you didn't receive, ping me during this meeting. 16:23:22 so, about question 9: it's basically an user telling you they can't login to a website. 16:23:50 it's an easy one. :) 16:24:15 ggus: It spoke of an attachment which wasn't included 16:24:34 so "the above message" was not necessary to answer the question :) 16:24:41 user is saying he is getting an above message but we can't see any message :D 16:25:12 bluemoon: yep 16:25:36 Do we have older versions of tor somewhere? some sort of archive directory? 16:25:39 it's a very common question. 16:25:59 Mac_10101: try gettor 16:26:04 https://dist.torproject.org/torbrowser/ 16:26:26 you can find 8.5.x and old alpha 16:27:51 any questions about registering your final contribution to Oureachy? 16:27:55 Outreachy 16:28:15 ggus: Do we need to show you reddit and stack answers before recording them? And is there a specific way to record these? 16:28:59 ggus how about registering Reddit QA to Outreachy? 16:29:16 c1e0: please submit to my email all the links. you can also create a github gist with all the links 16:30:01 ggus: Noted. Thanks 16:30:44 ggus: so can I use a github gist for that? 16:31:03 Highflyer910: yes 16:31:16 ggus: Great! Thanks 16:31:47 People that are building the website locally, questions? 16:32:08 Ah the gettor archive also only has 8.5.5 I think. I thought there were more; they're just different languagues. 16:32:50 yes, Some files needs to be copied from lego directory while the file exists but contains path to the file in lego directory 16:32:57 bluemoon: gettor should delivery the newest version 16:33:19 and two times, I broke the local site when I copied that 16:33:40 ggus: I have faced too many errors with building the local version. The documentation is definitely not beginner friendly. 16:34:19 I think we need to update our doc of compiling local site 16:34:23 I didn't build it yet; I'm actually not sure where the instructions are 16:34:36 there is almost no troubleshooting info 16:34:41 successfully fixed a path issue, only to come across import errors and others. 16:34:46 c1e0: any suggestions to improve 16:34:47 Mac_10101: also ^ 16:34:49 Mac_10101: right, do you have a recipe on how you built the website on windows? 16:35:05 Mac10101: agreed! 16:35:28 Please collect all these errors and how you managed to solve them (if you did) so we can update the wiki :) 16:35:56 yes, you can open a ticket for lektor and website build 16:36:03 bluemoon: https://dip.torproject.org/torproject/web/tpo/wikis/Compiling-a-local-version-of-the-website 16:36:11 pili: More troubleshooting workarounds and a steps. I could compile my errors and the solutions (if I figure them out), in a doc and show y'all 16:36:20 yes, I can share my experience of building local site 16:36:23 mostly of us are using linux or mac, so windows was a new platform 16:36:37 Thanks both :) 16:37:00 First, clone the correct repo 16:37:27 Do I and Mac_10101 only use Windows here?:) 16:37:30 2nd make sure you get the lego foler by cd tpo/lego && git submodule update --init 16:37:38 Mac_10101: please open a ticket with the instructions, so c1e0 can collaborate 16:37:50 You can skip the cd part if you open your terminal in lego folder 16:38:03 ggus: sure 16:38:42 3rd, You must have the translations plugin, otherwise build will give many errors which will relate to "_" 16:39:05 and if I am not mistaken, they are added to translatable content 16:39:12 Mac_10101: Please, ping me when you do :) 16:39:37 thanks for the link Mac_10101. But yes maybe put the instructions in the ticket it will be clearer there; now it's getting mixed up with other messages in the chat. 16:39:43 Here is plugin link : https://github.com/numericube/lektor-i18n-plugin 16:40:12 open up terminal in your project directory and use lektor plugins add lektor-i18n 16:40:30 Mac_10101: Speaking of translations, the doc speaks of downloading a branch into a folder but offers no clue how to do so. I'm stuck there. 16:40:38 any other question about Outreachy? :) 16:40:46 c1e0: about translations, you can ping emmapeel 16:41:02 So, the deadline is November 5th which is a Tuesday 16:41:05 c1e0: there's a wiki page in trac about it, but i never compiled the website with the translations 16:41:16 We have one more meeting before then, correct? 16:41:23 bluemoon: yes 16:41:28 Mac_10101 do you have Python 3..0.x installed? 16:41:31 i will make it more clear c1e0 , each website has a branch at https://gitweb.torproject.org/translation.git/ 16:41:38 for example the support portal has https://gitweb.torproject.org/translation.git/commit/?h=support-portal 16:41:42 ok 16:41:49 (i mean i will add it to the docs) 16:42:29 Highflyer: I have three versions of python but it seems 2.7.2 is being used 16:43:11 Mac_10101: but i18n plugin needs Python 3 and above 16:43:21 Whether we import translation or not but we must have to install translations plugin or face the monstrous error log 16:43:26 Mac_10101: consider using pyenv 16:43:31 and virtualenv s 16:43:32 Mac_10101: I found I could get everything working with python 3 16:43:47 And not with 2 16:43:52 Same here. Got a bunch of errors with 2.7. 16:44:15 Highflyer: the link I sent says so about Lektor version not python version 16:44:38 pili: debian user? 16:44:55 Nope Mac 16:45:01 I have a few issues I wanted to ask about with the community portal; I guess I will ask them on www (possible issues to create tickets) 16:45:10 Also, the doc tells me to finally run "lektor build -O ", but this doesn't work hitch-free. And the http://127.0.0.1:5000/ link is still a Problem Loading page 16:45:44 bluemoon: we aren't supposed to work on community portal? gus said that ! 16:45:57 ey, about community portal: it's a working in progress, and you don't need to focus on it. If you submit a pull request, we will review it soon, but it's not a priority 16:46:15 eh, ok 16:46:16 c1eo: I never tried "lektor build -O ". intead go with "lektor server" 16:46:26 you can see blank pages, broken links and other things 16:46:27 it was in "stuff we need to read" 16:46:30 so I read it 16:46:36 and I found some possible issues 16:46:39 Mac_10101: Did that as well. Didn't help 16:46:48 bluemoon: yeah, i saw your PR. thanks :) 16:46:55 alright, hope we our community portal will be ready soon 16:47:11 ggus: Who works on the development of sites? 16:47:16 ok 16:47:45 Mac_10101: depend on which part and which websites. 16:48:17 Hi all outreachy people, Should we make a discord server to collaborate and fix the errors specifically lektor :) 16:48:20 c1e0: same issues 16:48:47 Mac_10101: good idea 16:48:54 we could just have an irc room 16:48:54 ggus: Actually I was more interested in working on site development 16:49:10 Mac_10101: please don't create parallel forums 16:49:23 irc room is great too 16:49:45 if you need a room, people can use #tor-www 16:49:46 emmapeel: Also, downloading lektor was a problem as well. Took me about two hours just to do it. We should write more on that. 16:49:47 Mac, irc is cool 16:49:57 alright ggus: it was only meant to talk about errors if we face among outreachy people only 16:50:01 but its fine 16:50:30 c1e0: feel free to update the wikipage with information you find important! i added some changes about the repo etc https://dip.torproject.org/torproject/web/tpo/wikis/Compiling-a-local-version-of-the-website 16:50:31 If we use tor-www more experienced tor people can help us too :) 16:51:00 emmapeel: Cool :D 16:51:49 any more questions? :) 16:52:10 * har00ga waves 16:52:11 as for the user questions, I understand we can do research 16:52:24 but is there any limitation on discussing them in tor forums? 16:52:41 good question 16:53:06 good one bluemoon. I was wondering that too 16:53:18 bluemoon: i prefer that people answer using only the documentation that we have 16:53:25 ok 16:53:28 I think that makes sense 16:53:51 hello har00ga :) 16:54:05 if we have any more questions regarding the questions, should we ping you ggus? 16:54:23 Hello :] 16:54:47 this week i'll be mostly afk, so expect some latency 16:55:16 ok, maybe email is better than IRC then 16:55:24 I think I'll mostly be ok :) 16:55:27 ggus: In which repo I should open a ticket about lektor? 16:55:42 Mac_10101: support repo 16:55:46 some of them I thought "I know where to find that" but others "hmm not sure where to find that" 16:55:48 bluemoon: yes 16:56:51 ok people, i'm stopping the bot. 16:57:00 ok 16:57:03 #endmeeting