13:59:28 #startmeeting ux team 13:59:28 Meeting started Tue Oct 15 13:59:28 2019 UTC. The chair is antonela. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:59:28 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 13:59:34 hey everyone o/ 13:59:37 hi all! 13:59:42 T_ which was the problem? 13:59:47 hey dunqan o/ 14:00:07 hola! o/ 14:00:20 Perhaps it was timing. I joined immediately after the Tor meeting 14:00:25 ciao ggus! 14:00:30 and the next hour after that too 14:00:37 mmm strange 14:00:47 https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-ux-team-2019-keep 14:01:00 hi nice people, lets do it as always ^^ 14:01:11 leave your updates and also add items for discussion, if you have those 14:01:17 T_: we didn't have meeting on tor-south last week 14:01:20 hi emmapeel ! 14:01:26 Oh, Ok 14:02:07 hi! 14:02:15 hey thurayya 14:02:52 since we have dunqan and T_ here i also added an item in the discussion list to talk a bit about next iteration of personas 14:03:11 awesome 14:03:26 oki, lets start 14:04:07 Antonela mentioned a review of the research interview questions. I need that to complete the pretest this month 14:04:59 dunqan: T_ is running a research with users from Nigeria, Cameroon, Ethiopia and Zimbabwe specific on circumvention 14:05:15 i'd like to work with tunde on the next iteration of personas 14:05:39 oh that's great, for sure! 14:05:47 his research + ooni data will inform our target personas specific for circumvention 14:06:39 i just wanted you two to meet each other and sync this collab 14:07:04 dunqan if you want to work on stockholm feedback first, that is cooll 14:07:07 *cool 14:07:35 are you wanting to work up new personas with T_'s findings, or just amend existing? 14:07:51 I guess there are three jobs needing done from my pov 14:07:57 both maybe? 14:08:06 1. general tidying-up (i.e. making more print friendly) 14:08:11 2. Stockholm feedback 14:08:18 3. Addition of new personas 14:08:26 right 14:08:29 <+antonela> both maybe? <- yup for sure 14:09:10 i talked with T_ that extending our personas will also be a deliverable for his research 14:09:15 1 and possibly 2 can be done this week, no prob 14:09:32 and it is interesting because we can render a cross team collaboration with that deliverable 14:09:49 dunqan: cool, that works 14:09:54 maybe we could have a chat T_ about your research and findings, and figure out when would be best to bash this out together? 14:10:16 that could be ideal 14:10:25 I'm flexible this week and next :) 14:10:41 but T_ research is just starting 14:11:12 This month we're pretesting our interview questionnaire 14:11:15 gotcha, that's fine then – plenty time ^_^ 14:11:20 yes, awesome 14:11:31 really looking forward to it ^^ 14:11:34 We're reviewing this week ahead of pretest interviews 14:11:58 i'll start that thread with you dunqan, T_ and thurayya so we can sync on personas 14:12:11 yeah that'd be great, thanks 14:12:12 okey, thats cool :D 14:12:21 my second item is about TB9 14:12:25 Thanks, that's great 14:12:28 ey! 14:12:40 you all can test a nightly http://f4amtbsowhix7rrf.onion/tor-browser-builds/2019-10-14/ 14:12:43 i started to map here: https://pad.riseup.net/p/tb-9-update-docs-keep 14:12:55 ggus <3 14:13:00 yes a quick intro 14:13:16 TB9 is going to release on october 22 i think and we will need to update docs regarding that 14:13:43 oh ggus perfect 14:13:48 you already did it 14:14:28 i'd like to highlight some critical links 14:14:29 i'll need to review based on this latest tb build, but it's more or less this :) 14:14:35 which are those that are linked from the TB UI 14:14:50 and i think those need more priority for localization 14:15:28 #31768 has more details 14:15:30 * antonela thanks dunqan! 14:15:45 oh haha, sorry to drop you in that 14:15:53 do you need anything from me or is it all sorted? 14:16:21 nono, is done 14:16:29 ggus: https://tb-manual.torproject.org/en-US/bridges/ 14:16:39 thanks for that ^^ 14:17:07 that is from `about:preferences#tor` 14:17:36 “Advanced > Configure how Tor Browser connects to the internet. Learn More” doesnt have link 14:17:36 14:17:37 and i just discovered that ^ 14:18:02 but your list is good ggus, what do you need from us? 14:18:19 i'll need one gif and some screenshots 14:18:34 https://tb-manual.torproject.org/static/images/security-settings-anim.gif 14:18:48 btw there is a lot of content to localize for the manual and the support portal 14:18:53 since we don't have more the tor button, we need a new gif 14:18:56 all those strings we added or changed 14:19:19 emmapeel: is that expected? which strings? onboarding? 14:19:28 ggus right 14:20:55 antonela: there's another thing in tb9 14:21:12 is a question? 14:21:27 yes 14:21:30 preferences > tor browser support -> opens firefox support 14:21:30 i think you cover all in your pad 14:21:34 OH 14:21:36 ops, sorry 14:22:03 right 14:22:10 i can file that ticket now 14:22:28 i think it should open support.tpo 14:22:57 yes, we should open support.tpo and if at some point we build tb with an offline manual and tb is offline it should link to the offline manual 14:23:10 yess! 14:23:15 but yes, now support.tpo should be the a href 14:23:28 oki will file it, good catch ggus! 14:23:42 :D 14:24:17 people if you find something while playing with the nightly please ping me or open a ticket! 14:24:26 we are in a good time to fix those small things 14:24:30 * antonela think :) 14:25:00 In menu > help can we add "Tor Logs"? 14:25:31 we have tor logs 14:25:40 not at the menu but in about:preferences#tor 14:26:02 https://share.riseup.net/#aeU9jCCnv2j5Fxzsd7ivIw 14:26:05 ^^ 14:26:44 ok! 14:26:59 but maybe is a good suggestion, file a ticket :) 14:27:20 anything else on TB9 release? 14:28:21 we should announce dark theme as a feature too 14:28:34 :D 14:28:56 not sure how deep we want to go with the dark word but yes, i'm a dark theme fan and acat made it real : 14:28:58 :D 14:29:27 thanks acat! nerd lives matter! 14:29:32 emmapeel: the new strings are new because the latest changes in docs? or are you talking about new strings in TB? 14:29:41 we can say it's more secure... it's all black 14:29:42 the latest changes in the docs 14:29:46 after the hackathon 14:29:47 oh i see 14:30:16 yw :) 14:30:21 anything we can do to improve that emmapeel? 14:31:31 maybe a call for translators after tb9, early next month? 14:32:16 lots of calls this last days 14:32:21 i know 14:32:23 better to leave them to notice by themselves i think 14:32:30 so we give priority 14:32:30 im cool with it 14:32:53 there are a lot of strings that are easy to recover, because only a link changed for example 14:33:04 or there were typos on the english source, but the translation does not need to change 14:33:09 yes, but that is manual work 14:33:10 :/ 14:33:15 they appear as suggestions, but you need to get through them and change them 14:33:29 some translators have done already:D 14:33:35 thanks translators \o/ 14:33:37 emmapeel: last thing, i think pili is talking with you about the EY campaign strings, is that right? are we ok there? 14:33:42 but yeah is a very small proportion of the content 14:33:58 yeah lots of strings, ineed to check out the lego and donate strings 14:34:37 i have added some sentences to the 'tweets'file to jumpstart translation 14:34:42 <3 14:34:43 i hope they will not change much! 14:34:46 thank you emmapeel 14:35:06 (if they change one silly char, then the translation does not autocomplete) 14:35:07 please, ping me this week if you need help with anything there 14:35:10 i know 14:35:12 ok! 14:35:15 thanks! 14:35:28 that is all from me folks, anything you want to share? discuss? 14:36:45 i'm good 14:36:57 I'm good 14:37:14 just last thing, onion share 2.2 released this week with a new feature that allows you to create your own onion site! 14:37:25 if you try it and have some feedback let us know! 14:37:30 https://onionshare.org/ 14:38:21 i saw this! really impressive 14:38:28 i'll try! :) 14:38:47 yes it is, is very nice 14:38:58 so, thats all folks here 14:39:08 Thanks 14:39:13 * GeKo reads backlog 14:39:20 hey GeKo o/ 14:39:23 o/ 14:39:26 * antonela the boss is here 14:39:35 * ggus cleans the table 14:39:38 * GeKo bows 14:39:40 hahaha 14:39:59 haha are we missing anything for TB9? we found some small things, i'll file those tickets right after this meeting ends 14:40:16 for the learn more link 14:40:21 yes 14:40:24 pospeselr hides that in this latest patch 14:40:30 which will make it into tb9 14:40:35 oh cool 14:40:44 although ideally we would fix it by having something to link to 14:40:51 but i am not sure what is missing here 14:40:59 right 14:41:12 and then [Tor Browser Support] in about:preferences is linking to firefox support 14:41:25 yeah 14:41:35 where should it link to instead? 14:41:48 support.tpo.org seems good for now 14:41:59 that should be easily doable for tb9 14:42:04 nice 14:42:17 could you file a ticket for that (too)? 14:42:29 just to dont forget :) 14:42:33 will do it 14:42:34 yes 14:42:39 thanks 14:42:48 do you need anything from us GeKo? 14:43:18 i guess some participation in the tb9 blog post 14:43:28 i am not sure what we should put in yet 14:43:29 i can do that 14:43:38 we can coordinate with stephw i guess 14:43:55 yes, lets do it 14:43:56 but i bet we want to have some, you know, gifs :) 14:44:03 yes we want 14:44:05 :) 14:44:14 so working on that would be helpful 14:44:21 the deadline is tue next week 14:44:32 sure thing, let me ping steph and see what is missing and what we can have there 14:44:40 thanks! 14:44:49 no problem, thanks for coming :) 14:44:54 that's all that comes to mind right now 14:44:56 sure 14:45:32 okey, now is the end i think 14:45:45 thank you people! always a pleasure being here building stuff with you! 14:45:53 :D \o/ 14:45:56 #endmeeting