15:59:45 #startmeeting www sync 15:59:45 Meeting started Wed Sep 11 15:59:45 2019 UTC. The chair is antonela. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:59:45 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:59:53 hey! 16:00:13 hi folks o/ 16:00:26 emmapeel, hiro, thurayya 16:00:51 o/ 16:01:28 lets start with community updates and then lets move to anything that needs discussion 16:01:33 antonela: do you have the sandstorm link? 16:01:40 i dont :shy: 16:01:58 could you share it with us ggus? 16:02:11 i need to find 16:03:11 https://storm.torproject.org/shared/mhWAZj0wCDcZBX9eUsB3pLsFnTGqB9uNc9H2mP9TQ3t 16:04:29 so, re community.tpo.org we have updates! thurayya has been working on the user research content and I aim to review it this week and make a pr so stephw can give a read 16:05:20 yay! 16:06:46 * antonela adds it to the pad 16:06:47 last week i worked on support/tpo/manual websites, so i don't have updates about community.tpo 16:06:58 cool, any other update about community? 16:07:14 i think julius sent you a reviewed version of the policies 16:07:15 did he? 16:07:26 antonela: do we have a ticket in web/community about UX? 16:07:41 yes a couple 16:08:12 antonela: i think we could create labels to our sections in web/community 16:08:17 https://dip.torproject.org/torproject/ux/team/issues/26 16:08:20 relay, ux, outreach, 16:09:07 yes, we could 16:09:08 i see 16:09:46 super! 16:10:02 re policies, im talking about #26808 16:10:29 it seems to need a place in community.tpo too 16:10:49 antonela: i have a couple of tickets to discuss 16:10:56 but we can do policy documents 16:12:21 go for it ggus 16:13:11 https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/31603 16:13:30 I'd like to close the issues part of these repositories 16:13:43 since we are not checking 16:14:38 not sure who owns gh repos, but seems something doable 16:14:47 at least in gitlab is just a on/off option 16:15:08 hiro maybe? 16:15:12 i think so 16:16:00 in tpo there are two open issues owned by you and another one by pili :P 16:16:21 but it's probably done and tor-pusher didn't close 16:16:53 we can close issues yes 16:17:00 I can also give people the power to close issues 16:17:28 https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/31557 16:17:31 yess! 16:17:50 pili and i want power to close PRs 16:18:04 * antonela goes to close gh issues 16:19:07 pili has that power already 16:19:10 you now have 16:19:23 emmapeel you too can have: you just need to give me your gh account 16:19:38 what is the repo where you see two issues ggus? 16:19:57 github/torproject/tpo 16:19:59 antonela you have the power 16:20:16 https://github.com/torproject/tpo/issues 16:21:46 for the issues opened in support repo, i'll migrate to trac 16:23:19 done 16:23:24 why to trac? 16:23:38 yeah why not dip? 16:23:54 please, use dip ggus 16:24:33 ok 16:25:02 https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/29945 16:25:47 i fixed isse #2 today 16:25:55 (the easy one) 16:26:21 we should review the labels 16:26:49 ideally we have bekela working on those stuffs, that is what the wiki says :) 16:27:58 ok, i'll write to her and ask help on this 16:28:33 https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/31405 16:30:33 is this one for hiro ggus? 16:31:09 i think so 16:31:18 uhm 16:31:25 in the old site we had a redirect 16:31:39 we can do the same so that we do not link to dist 16:32:38 ok! 16:33:34 the next one is the policy docs https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/26808 16:33:43 haha 16:34:09 where do you want to have those? 16:34:48 i was thinking about/policies 16:34:59 not in community so 16:35:00 in tpo 16:35:23 and we don't need to list it in the submenu 16:35:31 we have a lektor plugin that can be used to import those txt files from our git 16:35:34 not in community, unfortunately 16:36:13 how this plugin works? 16:36:58 and also, do we want these docs translated? 16:37:13 https://dip.torproject.org/web/community/blob/master/templates/two-columns-page.html#L18-20 16:38:14 it creates this: https://community.torproject.org/training/code-of-conduct/ 16:38:33 nice, it's working! 16:38:50 \\o //o \\o //o 16:38:58 * antonela is dancing 16:39:19 you can also import the localized file 16:39:42 I think we should be careful with translations on those, they have legal wording 16:39:54 you just have to past the alternative to the url... I think emmapeel said we can have those txt translated in the repo 16:39:59 yeah 16:41:52 hiro: this template only works in community repository? 16:42:09 no all the web lektor projects 16:42:59 we have a plugin for RSS feeds and one for txt files 16:43:44 the one for RSS feeds is the one that creates our events list: https://community.torproject.org/outreach/ 16:44:00 hiro: very nice! 16:44:07 good stuff hiro! 16:44:10 https://dip.torproject.org/web/community/blob/master/templates/outreach.html#L38 16:44:32 if we wanted to have list of our latests blog posts we could have that too 16:45:50 i'll keep this in mind :) 16:46:10 so, what else folks? 16:46:25 antonela: about policies, we are going to create one page per policy? 16:46:38 good question 16:46:50 or something like trademark style page 16:46:51 the location will be tpo.org/about/policies? 16:47:06 i think so 16:47:07 and then you have a two columns layout? 16:47:16 works for me 16:47:22 works for me too 16:48:20 the last ticket for today https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/30203 16:49:57 a) "Alternative Downloads" 16:50:06 b) "Download little-t-tor" 16:50:15 c) "Download Tor network daemon" 16:50:30 i think we already discussed it befor 16:50:31 e 16:50:32 d) Your new option 16:51:28 the only weird thing right now is that win32 binaries are also listed under "Download Tor Source Code" 16:51:40 yes 16:52:24 and this could be an issue now because we dont have a devs portal, which should host this developer specific assets 16:52:48 and any of the options above will fix that problem 16:53:30 so, im not sure which problem are you willing to solve gus? 16:53:57 many relay operators compile their own tor daemon, so i don't think it should be in devs portal 16:54:15 so i'd go with (a) for now 16:54:16 that is why we have the tor source code at the download page as well 16:54:25 i wouldn't 16:54:30 because the main downloable here is Tor Browser 16:55:49 what is the problem with "Download Tor Source Code" 16:56:01 * antonela besides the caps 16:56:08 win32 is a binary 16:56:35 and users are sending email to frontdesk about this windows binary 16:57:00 great, so will should find a better place for win32 but you were worried about the relay operators willing to compile their tor daemon 16:57:29 s/will/we 16:57:53 worried that we should not remove little-t-tor source code from download page 16:58:11 the label or the downloable? 16:58:36 we should not label this: Download Tor Source Code 16:58:43 if we are appedning windows binary 16:59:06 and do you think alternative downloads is a useful label for relay operators looking for Tor source code? 16:59:17 ggus: i had been pondering the name 'Advanced' rather than specifying what exactly it is 16:59:28 a,b,c would be better 17:00:03 b and c don't contemplate the win bundle, tho 17:00:18 arma2: "Advanced Tor? 17:00:27 "Advanced Tor" or? 17:00:57 nope, just an indication that it's for things that only advanced users would be interested in 17:01:13 ok 17:01:19 'alternate options' or something is not a crazy idea either 17:01:32 i'll comment on that ticket, again, and we can continue talking about it 17:01:34 sounds good? 17:01:35 i agree that calling it source code, and hiding a windows binary in it, is something that should be fixed somehow 17:02:04 and we also agreed a while ago that it is not a priority if we can point windows binary interested people to that link too 17:02:40 'other options', 'advanced options' 17:02:45 wfm 17:02:46 the only thing is the label, having it together is fine 17:06:59 cool 17:07:02 what else folks? 17:07:14 i'm good! 17:07:24 good, thanks all! 17:07:29 #endmeeting