13:58:19 <antonela> #startmeeting ux team 13:58:19 <MeetBot> Meeting started Tue Feb 5 13:58:19 2019 UTC. The chair is antonela. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:58:19 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 13:58:22 <antonela> hello all! 13:58:33 <antonela> FOSDEM was great dunqan 13:58:51 <antonela> i met Open Design folks, there were a full room of people interested in design 13:59:11 <dunqan> nice! 13:59:14 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> Yeah it was good to see so many Tor folks this year 13:59:19 <antonela> we should attract more designers, seems like there were more devs lookings for designers than designers looking for devs 13:59:47 <antonela> and i think it is our part, like talk and reflect on our practice, what we are doing with our work, the impact we have in peoples daily lifes 13:59:52 <antonela> anyways, was good 14:00:00 <antonela> yee, a huge tor crew as elio said 14:00:21 <antonela> t-shirts ended on the first 5 hours of booth i think 14:00:57 <antonela> okey, lets start 14:01:38 <antonela> https://storm.torproject.org/shared/iHzTDUw8UCNPo0k9mRXbwLk5Ysrs_qsxK4XLO4p7F9w <--- updates 14:02:22 <pili> hi! 14:02:35 <antonela> https://storm.torproject.org/shared/WQ1Tkb3_kB8aLKQuJHYJ-IjnP2DC4TaLhKDdpvm_gk2 <-- roadmap 14:02:37 <antonela> hello pili! 14:03:44 <dunqan> hey pili 14:03:53 <antonela> dunqan, great review on the onboarding flows, that is exactly what we need when i talk about having more designers into the discussions, thanks ! 14:04:03 <antonela> give me this week to work on it and back to you 14:05:13 <antonela> emmapeel is not here today, do we have hiro? i think is off too due travels 14:05:31 <dunqan> No problem at all! I'm second-guessing what I've proposed atm, would you mind firing me the sketch file for #28329? 14:05:43 <dunqan> I'd like to have a wee play around with the Network screen if that's cool :) 14:06:46 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> added some things. Not all exclusively UX related but thought it's worth mentioning 14:07:25 <antonela> dunqan: yes its cool, i talked with sysrqb, our tba dev who is working on it, there are some features which we have in desktop now that we are not going to have on this iteration of tba, but is useful if we talk about them too 14:07:51 <antonela> elioqoshi, thanks! i think the meeting today was ok, working per section will make feedback easier 14:08:06 <dunqan> Ah awesome, thanks – I've got an alternative idea that may work in that case then 14:08:30 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> I got a draft of the websites section already. Will share once had more progress later today 14:08:43 <antonela> and also, i dont want you to put a lot of hours in something that im sure will need iteration, so if we make review cycles shorter is better for all fo us 14:08:49 <antonela> yes, awesome, thank you! 14:09:01 <antonela> elioqoshi talk in FOSDEM was great too! 14:09:08 <antonela> dunqan, exciting :) 14:09:20 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> likewise for yours too antonela :) 14:09:30 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> Was a good combo together with l10n lab 14:09:58 <antonela> yes, good hattrick 14:10:58 <antonela> pili: what is the plan for the tor browser vision meeting? 14:11:13 <pili> I was hoping to do it this week but we'll see 14:11:25 <pili> next week I wanted to do it with community team and maybe ux team also 14:11:48 <pili> otherwise I'll have to push one of the brainstorms out by another week... but then I'll be in India 14:11:54 <pili> it's tricky scheduling :/ 14:12:07 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> I had a random idea of posting a posting on the Open Source Design Job Board for Designers to get involved in the Tor UX Team? 14:12:25 <antonela> yep, i can join this week on thursday or friday, is 11PM here, but is like _fine_ 14:12:32 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> Do we have any actionable item which needs UX help we could reach out to designers? 14:12:40 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> This way we might attract new blood 14:12:48 <antonela> elioqoshi, yes, or maybe we can organice first which needs work 14:13:12 <pili> antonela: I'll see if anyone else replies and decide what to do 14:13:26 <pili> I don't think it will happen today anyway 14:13:38 <antonela> pili, great, but what is the idea? discuss the future of tor browser for this year? in 5 years? 14:13:48 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> dunqan, you asked me something last meeting, right? Can't remember what it was 14:13:55 <pili> it's about where we want to be in 2 years 14:14:03 <pili> not short term, but near future :) 14:14:07 <pili> if that makes sense 14:14:07 <antonela> okey, two years seems near future 14:14:08 <antonela> yes yes 14:14:22 <pili> (glad we're on the same page :D ) 14:14:25 <antonela> nice, i have throughs, wondering if we are all in the same page :) 14:14:26 <antonela> hahahha 14:14:45 <antonela> oki, good stuff pili 14:14:46 <antonela> hello Fabby! 14:14:56 <Fabby> hi ! 14:15:05 <dunqan> elioqoshi, ah yeah! I was hoping we could have a catchup so I can better understand the work you do for OONI, and how it crosses over to Tor etc. 14:15:37 <antonela> how are you? we are organizing Tor presence in IFF and i wrote you last week because i wanted to know the status of the mobile talk we have together! 14:15:50 <antonela> seems like it is approved :) lets meet at some point this month to organize it? 14:15:54 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> Ah right. Happy to do it this week dunqan 14:16:00 <antonela> fabby ^^ 14:16:22 <Fabby> Sounds good! 14:16:33 <antonela> do you have plans in mind for it? 14:16:40 <dunqan> great, thanks elio – I'll PM you after the meeting :) 14:16:41 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> FYI I will be at IFF as well 14:16:55 <antonela> elioqoshi, superr 14:16:56 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> Having a Design Speed Dating session with Georgia from Simply Secure 14:17:04 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> Let me know if I can help otherwise 14:17:17 <Fabby> many exiting things happening for this year! Right now we are reaching out to the iOS Tor community 14:17:26 <antonela> what is a Design Speed Dating session elioqoshi? 14:18:38 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> Good question, Georgia proposed it. Projects will pass by and ask for UX help and we have a short chat on how they can improve upon these actions and hopefully outline next steps 14:18:57 <antonela> i see, projects who needs designers 14:19:00 <Fabby> in order to improve the Onion Browser, once we have that data and our road map we will be ready to structure our session 14:19:23 <antonela> elioqoshi nice, all what simply secure doesnt take can go to open design folks haha 14:19:32 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> That was my understanding. Will check again with Georgia closer to the event 14:20:06 <antonela> Fabby great, but are we going it touch Tor Browser for Android too? or is just focused on iOS? 14:20:08 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> Heh yeah, at the end of the Open Source Design should be a meeting point rather than an organization itself 14:20:29 <antonela> Fabby i thought it was a shared talk? maybe i'm confused 14:20:42 <antonela> elioqoshi gotcha makes sense 14:20:58 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> Is there anything Usability Research / Testing related one could contribute? 14:21:13 <antonela> at Tor now? YES 14:21:35 <Fabby> it's about both of them 14:21:37 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> Asking as I could introduce our Usability Researcher and she could do some interviews in person 14:21:56 <antonela> elioqoshi that could be great 14:21:59 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> She did some stuff for Thunderbird and I2P in the past 14:22:13 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> and Briar 14:22:15 <antonela> Fabby oh great, that is what i had in mind 14:23:05 <Fabby> yes! officially introducing both to the IFF community 14:23:16 <antonela> elioqoshi super, if things goes as expected there will be a new tor browser for when IFF starts, so, core features we are improving will receive a round of testing by then 14:23:18 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> So if TBA could need some testing we can do that. Okay I will get her started and try for her to attend the meeting next week 14:23:28 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> Coolio 14:23:33 <antonela> elioqoshi perfect, thanks! 14:23:59 <antonela> Fabby awesome, again, if things goes as expected, we could have a great TBA version too 14:24:19 <antonela> okey, IFF is taking shape, im excited *___* 14:24:59 <Fabby> We were thinking of a very hands on session where people could see the apps working and test them 14:25:11 <Fabby> maybe bring a few test devices 14:25:13 <antonela> yess lets do it fabby 14:25:24 <antonela> i have two androids, different age each of them hehe 14:25:34 <Fabby> even go through the installation 14:25:36 <antonela> and one iphone 6S 14:25:37 <antonela> yes 14:25:49 <antonela> finding on stores and all the process 14:26:09 <Fabby> I have two test Androids too and now and iPad mini 14:26:26 <antonela> team I'll need all your help this week and next, hiro and I are making huge efforts to have tpo.org and tpo.org/about ready for release, i'll send an email but basically, we need some of you doing QA, mostly links, visual bugs and this last minutes stuffs 14:26:59 <antonela> i'll send an email with instructions about how is the best way to leave feedback, but i'm trying hard to push it out 14:27:17 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> Sure, happy to do a review 14:27:31 <dunqan> happy to help! 14:27:40 <dunqan> browser/device testing too? 14:27:55 <pili> I can help out also 14:28:35 <antonela> all of them dunqan, diversity is embraced 14:28:46 <antonela> great, thanks a lot! i'll send an email this week about it 14:28:54 <antonela> what else people? 14:30:01 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> Not much. I am kicking off the HTTPS Everywhere redesign with EFF and OTF Usability Lab 14:30:14 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> Might be relevant since it will ship with TB as well 14:30:20 <dunqan> I've got more Tor time than usual this week (got caught up moving studios last week unfortunately) so feel free to fire anything you need looked at over :) 14:31:07 <Fabby> Antonela, let's talk by the end of this week, sounds good? 14:31:21 <antonela> Fabby yes, thanks! 14:31:33 <antonela> dunqan, will do! 14:31:51 <antonela> elioqoshi, yes that is great, i hope that happen 14:33:20 <Fabby> bye 14:34:01 <antonela> if we are done, then it will be a short meeting 14:34:08 <antonela> are we groot? pili am i missing anything? 14:34:17 <antonela> bye fabby thanks for coming! 14:34:19 <pili> I don't think so 14:36:37 <antonela> oki, its a wrap so 14:36:41 <antonela> thanks all! have a lovely week! 14:36:43 <antonela> #endmeeting