19:00:12 #startmeeting tor-browser-release 11/28 19:00:12 Meeting started Wed Nov 28 19:00:12 2018 UTC. The chair is pili. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:12 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:00:41 so, I haven't prepared much for today unfortunately, but we should have a TBA alpha hitting sometime this week (fingers crossed) 19:01:12 I guess the Orbot integration is the main piece that we're waiting for 19:01:22 anyone have any more details on that? :) 19:01:35 well, i think that's basically done 19:01:48 matt and i we worked together on #28329 19:01:52 https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/28329#comment:9 19:01:55 issues updates related popped up 19:02:14 but i hope we have some workarounds here to, today 19:02:19 that in tba or tb? 19:02:21 yup, it's looking nice antonela :) 19:02:24 tba 19:02:29 kk 19:02:40 is this with the torbutton extension or something else? 19:02:44 so i hope we can start a build tomorrow morning european time 19:02:49 I seem to remember reading something today :) 19:02:56 yes 19:03:23 the problem is we ship torbutton now in a new way, tighter integrated in the browser code 19:03:38 but the old torbutton is not deleted and still hangs around after update 19:03:57 in fact tba does not pick up the tighter integrated one up for that reason 19:04:07 and is still happily using the old one 19:04:41 yikes 19:04:51 ok 19:04:55 are we going to do a TB 8.5 alpha release or just TBA? I know last release meeting we were considering doing both 19:05:04 yeah both 19:05:13 i am already feeling sorry for the network team folks 19:05:26 because they need the alpha for testing the tor alpha 19:05:54 and this is getting dragged as we are hitting new mobile problems 19:06:19 fwiw for tba we'll do a version number jump straight to 8.5a5 19:06:37 now that we have the integration into our tor-browser-build process 19:06:42 k, great 19:06:50 and releases on the same day for alphas across all platforms 19:07:12 so releasing both TBA8.5a5 and TBB8.5a5 19:07:13 (which is why the desktop ones the network team needs is blocked on the mobile work) 19:07:13 ? 19:07:34 there is only Tor Browser 8.5a5 from now on :) 19:07:45 on fours platforms: windows, macos, linux and android 19:07:46 sure ;) 19:07:56 it's nice we got here! 19:08:28 any other highlights that are coming on 8.5a5? 19:08:54 #26690 for mobile 19:09:39 is done? 19:09:52 and #26540 and #22343 19:10:05 antonela: if we get the icon issue sorted out, great 19:10:15 but i pick the patch without it if needed 19:10:26 i shared with igt0 the assets yesterday 19:10:30 and we can open a new ticket and ship the proper thing in the next release 19:10:34 yeah 19:10:42 seems like the default lock has a white border, super weird 19:10:51 so i replicated that border and seems done now 19:11:11 great 19:11:42 hey everyone sorry i’m late 19:11:56 hey sstevenson 19:12:30 hi sstevenson no worries :) 19:13:21 great, anything else anyone wants to comment on for the release next week? 19:13:49 Otherwise we can discuss whether there are any requests for the december 11th release 19:13:59 sorry, release _this_ week 19:14:16 i.e tomorrow hopefully 19:14:24 (: 19:14:32 friday 19:14:51 or friday :D 19:14:53 we build tomorrow and do some qa and then sign and release on friday 19:15:02 or something like that 19:15:04 sounds good 19:15:22 (that's already quite rough and assuming no last last issues pop up) 19:15:36 yup 19:16:03 ok, any requests for the 11th December release then? 19:16:44 #28540 19:16:51 going once... twice... :) 19:16:52 oooh, at the last minute :) 19:16:56 fwiw we are building *that* release next week, so be modest here :) 19:17:02 arthur made a patch for it 19:17:03 yeah that will be included 19:17:07 oki 19:17:10 sstevenson: ^^ 19:17:40 looking 19:18:28 looks right. thanks! 19:18:59 super, thanks! 19:19:45 ok, anything else? 19:19:49 stephw: we have a new Tor Browser icon, we talked about to save it for TB8.5 stable release 19:20:04 but we are going to have it running in alpha (geko jump if im saying something wrong) 19:20:27 sounds about right 19:20:35 okay cool then we wont hype it too much 19:20:39 stephw: what do you think? is cool? 19:20:41 oki great 19:20:42 if i get to review it it will make it into 8.5a6 19:20:57 yea dont think i will call it out on social, but include in changelog as usual 19:21:13 i wanted to having you in this loop because when it happen on stable we may want to do some social media buzz :) 19:21:17 def 19:21:21 it's on my high prio list for the work after the release dust for this week settles a bit 19:21:41 cool, thanks :) 19:22:03 antonela: and we should add a little more text into the blog post for the stable too, will keep following :) 19:22:19 i have a friend who does animations working in an animated version for it, probably to be used as a loader or for social media, not sure yet but will look fantastic 19:22:25 yep 19:22:34 we had a process, community poll and that 19:23:10 then geko sec settings is going to be in tb8.5 stable? 19:23:21 do i have more time to iterate over the onboarding? 19:23:30 duncan is helping us and i want to keep the momentum :) 19:26:22 what does more time mean? 19:26:34 next week? 19:27:06 i'll be in all hands but if we need it done i can work with him on it to have it ready 19:27:09 oh, you mean the onboarding for the sec settings redesign? 19:27:12 yes 19:27:17 sure, sure 19:27:19 take your time 19:27:26 i can start with other parts 19:27:31 to be clear, 8.5 stable will be released in February? 19:27:40 more march-y 19:27:43 i have march 19:27:45 haha 19:27:49 :D 19:27:50 ok 19:27:56 I was looking at the roadmap :P 19:28:02 ah, that was mobile stable 19:28:12 ubt yes, the sec settings redesign is for 8.5 19:28:13 geko: great, thanks! 19:28:20 *but 19:28:54 then we need to re-review our roadmaps at some point since drl is not happening and probably otf yes 19:29:07 december at some point? 19:29:40 not sure when we'll hear back from otf at this rate 19:29:47 I would say realistically in early january 19:29:55 after the holidays, but we'll see :) 19:29:55 i have notes for a circuit display and the .onion padlock iteration, all this for TB8.5 19:30:05 oh i see 19:30:07 oki 19:30:25 maybe they'll be quicker this time 19:31:05 ok, anything else from anyone? :) 19:31:42 im groot :) 19:31:50 I wonder if we should explicitly encourage more network team participation also for this meeting... 19:32:34 hey pili we will need some updates at the tb manual for tb8.5, just to keep it in the radar 19:32:43 because last time took a while and maybe we can do better at this time 19:32:56 ok, noted, thanks :) 19:33:11 I guess once we have the UI frozen we could start on that 19:33:16 yep 19:34:13 any other last minute comments? 19:34:45 nope! except i’m excited to see if we get donations through the TBA banner 19:34:55 yeee 19:34:59 :D yes! 19:35:05 fingers crossed 19:35:16 ok, I'm calling it 19:35:25 #endmeeting