17:59:12 #startmeeting tor-browser 17:59:12 Meeting started Mon Aug 27 17:59:12 2018 UTC. The chair is GeKo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:59:12 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:59:18 o/ 17:59:26 alright! showtime 17:59:29 hi! 17:59:33 hi 17:59:38 howdy! 17:59:40 hi! 17:59:43 as usual we have our meeting pad at https://storm.torproject.org/shared/tHoN4Ii7rLSjPE0OP4gydX4cMGadsXmRQNc-6lwru0N 18:00:05 please enter your items and mark the ones to discuss bold 18:03:02 hello 18:04:12 okay, let's get started 18:05:27 so tb8 release 18:06:25 my current plan is to have everything ready for building by wed evening european time 18:06:35 this means essentially 2 days from now 18:07:06 sukhe: could you come up with a patch for activating the signature check for lang packs again? 18:07:28 so, this means as well as i need help with reviews 18:07:46 GeKo: the patch is ready but I didn't submit it. doing that now! 18:08:30 arthuredelstein: could you have a second opinion on #27283 as it touches fpi of permissions? 18:09:40 pospeselr: could you have a look at #27221? 18:10:00 GeKo: yes. it looks like there is a similar issue with #26670 18:10:25 then i plan to go over the open ff60-esr tickets and plan to do the one-liners that just need some pref flip 18:10:45 i might ping people to have a quick look at those patches 18:10:57 arthuredelstein: could be! 18:11:09 pospeselr: are you here by chance? 18:11:14 i am! 18:11:20 great! 18:11:29 so, re the sandboxing bug 18:11:50 GeKo: I mean I bisected and tracked it down to that an issue with fpi/permissions 18:12:21 I should go over that patch and make sure there aren't other similar issues 18:12:48 feel free to do if that doe snot collide with more important stuff 18:13:13 pospeselr: i think it's not unreasonable to plan with shipping level 2 if we don't find a better solution 18:13:37 yeah that would have to be the fallback 18:13:50 good. 18:13:51 and it isn't a 'rare' occurance 18:14:08 yep 18:14:10 i suspect for some people they'll hit it almmost every tim they launch TB 18:14:35 one idea for debugging is finding our what exactly is interfering in level 3 and above 18:14:38 seeings how adding a bit of logging to my windows build makes it hit just about every time 18:14:46 yeah tjat 18:14:48 by flipping things in sandboxBroker.cpp 18:14:52 yeah that's my plan for today 18:14:58 awesome, thanks 18:15:01 yeah, it happens every time on my windows machine 18:15:05 fortunately there's only 2 or 3 places where we branch based off of sandbox level 3 18:15:26 and twiw, removing tor-launcher makes it go away completely 18:15:30 fwiw* 18:15:45 but don't know if that's because tor-launcher is causing the issue or just exposing it 18:15:46 mcs: i guess you are busy with fixing up lose ends for the about:tor experience 18:15:53 (which sonuds good) 18:16:14 (and onboarding ones) 18:16:16 GeKo: We have plenty to do in that area but if something else is more important please let us know. 18:16:38 will do, but apart from review pings there is nothing else planned right now 18:17:04 speaking of about:tor, when it does launch it really is a beautiful thing :) 18:17:11 +1 18:17:14 +1 18:17:21 :) 18:17:31 +1 18:17:32 +1's all around to everyone involved :) 18:17:45 so, regarding tb8 are there any questions for the release left? 18:17:55 intrigeri: welcome! 18:18:02 GeKo: :) 18:18:04 mcs, i filled #27301 with the pad items; please feel free to break up it 18:18:13 hi intrigeri 18:18:21 antonela: acknowledged and thanks! 18:18:21 hi * 18:18:34 mcs, no thanks you ! 18:19:14 okay, let's start crossing fingers and move on to the next topic :) 18:19:31 if there questions, fears etc. arise i am happy to help 18:19:50 sysrqb: so, tba release 18:19:59 yes 18:20:42 sonuds like we want to omit the ddg link opening? 18:20:46 is that the only issue? 18:21:09 sysrqb, it appears even if we have the noscript extension? 18:21:23 GeKo: yes, and getting access to google play (which should happen today) 18:21:55 isabela: ping 18:21:58 so if we are happy with the current features, i can create a build after you create a new tag 18:22:22 i am not so happy with the ddg thing being broken 18:22:42 and wonder if we just do a "Finish" button with slightly modified text 18:22:44 yeah, sory, i meant after solving that 18:22:51 aha, okay 18:23:18 yeah, i think that's the remaining problem for days now and nothing new has poppped up 18:23:34 i tihnk that's a good plan, considering we are already a few weeks late with this release 18:23:57 what is DDG PWA? 18:24:06 i think we are ok with a Finish button, 18:24:08 Their progressie webapp 18:24:16 ugh 18:24:21 we wont' that 18:24:41 let's do the Finish button with a reworded text as needed 18:24:43 i was wondering if we can disable the PWA detection 18:24:55 but that is another patch/ticket i think 18:25:02 yep, that's for later 18:25:21 igt0: could you adapt the patch (finally) again? 18:25:27 and sysrqb could test it? 18:26:28 GeKo, yep 18:26:55 cool. i'll probably be awake for another couple of hours for merging and tagging stuff 18:27:12 GeKo: kay, should we discuss the release process later? 18:27:17 *okay 18:27:22 we can do now 18:27:46 i think it's fine if it follows the same as we did with orfox 18:27:58 okay, i can build and sign the .apk, but i'm not sure what the next step should be 18:28:06 okay. 18:28:15 i was also thinking about sending an email to tor-talk@ 18:28:21 we need to get the .apk into google store 18:28:26 create a blog post 18:28:28 and i thought i saw something about a blog post? 18:28:36 make the .apk available on the website 18:28:36 okay, makes sense 18:28:50 and send a mail to, yeah, tor-announce 18:28:52 err 18:28:54 tor-talk 18:29:19 we should get isa and steph into the blog post thing 18:29:32 iirc there are outlines of it already available 18:29:39 i can them ping later 18:29:49 okay, sounds good 18:30:04 i think i'll need help with uploading onto the website 18:30:44 i can do that 18:30:49 great 18:31:05 okay, sounds good 18:31:06 hiro has been working on the apk relatd bits for the website 18:31:16 we need to check whre we are with that 18:31:25 i'll do that later as well 18:31:33 thanks 18:32:11 tjr: re the special folder question 18:32:16 could be 18:32:42 i guess pospeselr could double-check 18:33:01 (he replied below saying no) 18:33:23 GeKo as soon as I have the link to the apk and the copy for the text I can put it online :) 18:33:36 yeah this happens when just installed to my VM's desktop folder 18:33:36 awesome, even better, thanks 18:34:14 pospeselr: i think the argument was that the desktop foldr might be treated differntly with sandbox level 3 18:34:28 OH 18:35:32 ok that's worth poking around in 18:35:36 will add it to my list 18:35:37 bc the cypherpunk said it was a non-issue in differnt folders 18:35:40 great 18:36:18 anything else before discussion? 18:36:37 GeKo: ! 18:36:48 isabela: ! 18:37:08 * isabela saw a ping (but i guess you got the answer from sysrqb already) 18:37:27 isabela: partly. we can take the remaining parts for after the meeting 18:37:34 okay discussion 18:38:18 tjr: there has not been anything ongoing besides the tbb-dev thread 18:38:32 so i guess we'll pick this up after we finally got our rleases out? 18:38:35 *releases 18:38:44 sysrqb: does that sounds good? 18:38:47 okay, just confirming :) 18:38:49 that was my plan, yes 18:39:26 TB8 and TBA seemed like much higher priorities right now 18:39:34 correct 18:39:55 okay, next meeting 18:39:57 GeKo: k 18:41:09 i realize on next monday is a public holiday in the us? 18:41:14 labor day 18:41:23 so, we should move the meeting 18:41:35 would moving to tue 1800 utc work? 18:41:47 works for me 18:41:49 Works for me. 18:41:50 works for me 18:41:53 +1 18:42:28 me too 18:42:32 me three 18:42:43 works for me too 18:42:51 great 18:43:06 i'll send the announcement later 18:43:19 do we have something else up for discussion today then? 18:43:37 already pinged tjr about this 18:43:52 but was wondering if anyone knew of any high level docs taht outline firefox's architecture 18:44:22 stumbling around in the dark pressing random buttons and switches only gets you so far 18:44:25 like the whole thing? 18:44:31 or just e10s? 18:44:43 either, anything 18:45:00 i have some pages bookmarked, i can find them 18:45:38 alright cool, somethign to read between compiles 18:45:43 thanks! 18:46:06 okay, anything else? 18:46:28 Some e10s info is here but it is somewhat old: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox/Multiprocess_Firefox/Technical_overview 18:47:39 alright, thanks all *baf* 18:47:41 #endmeeting