14:00:09 <antonela> #startmeeting ux team meeting 14:00:09 <MeetBot> Meeting started Tue Aug 21 14:00:09 2018 UTC. The chair is antonela. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:09 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:00:12 <antonela> hi! 14:00:55 <antonela> last week we got some people on vacs and some absences but we are on track this week again, with the new time 14:01:03 <antonela> lets start reviewing our roadmap 14:01:25 <antonela> i cleared Jul and updated Aug 14:01:34 <antonela> please, add/update your items 14:01:45 <antonela> https://storm.torproject.org/shared/7SlgcJFsB3K9Eon3kz5xIUJTUKaH6kjb-1ThQyyZUid 14:02:50 <antonela> when you are done, we can start with updates 14:03:32 <antonela> hi pili :) 14:04:02 <pili> hi antonela :) just taking a look ;) 14:04:15 <antonela> super, feel free to ask questions ! 14:04:29 <antonela> so, let me start with the updates 14:04:54 <antonela> first of all, Tor Browser Alpha 8.0a10 was released ! 14:05:06 <antonela> if you didnt download it yet, please do it 14:05:30 <antonela> https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-80a10 14:06:16 <antonela> as everybody knows, we have been working a lot with the browser team folks on this release 14:06:53 <antonela> i'm doing a lot of things right now, one of them is documenting some UI visual bugs/details that could be nice to have fixed for stable 14:07:54 <antonela> TBA alpha will see the light this week too, so I'm also working with igt0 on what they need to release 14:08:09 <ggus> nice! i'm using tb 8.0a10. the onboarding + onion icons are the best!! :D 14:08:25 <antonela> :) 14:09:45 <antonela> we have a meeting today with the communications team to coordinate the projects we are sharing: tpo.org content, tpo.org look and feel, the newsletter campaign and some other things 14:09:54 <antonela> i don't want to talk more haha 14:09:58 <antonela> hiro you around? 14:10:21 <antonela> then, we have ggus and nyinz visiting kenya soon! so i'm sure they have updates about it 14:10:40 <ggus> yep, just waiting my turn. can i go? :) 14:10:47 <antonela> ye! go 14:11:02 <ggus> we're going to kenya next week!!! 14:11:06 <antonela> ! 14:11:31 <ggus> i'll be offline next tuesday, 28th. 14:11:44 <hiro> I am here 14:11:49 <ggus> we're going mombasa then nairobi. 14:11:50 <hiro> yo pili! 14:12:36 <ggus> i'm still working on some logistics in nairobi 14:13:37 <ggus> but, we will have 3 workshops in nairobi. i didn't confirm the workshop with the linux user group, though. 14:13:45 <ggus> so maybe we will have 4 workshops 14:15:08 <ggus> and we need to define if we're going to have the same ux testing in all the workshops 14:15:51 <ggus> done 14:16:05 <antonela> sounds exciting ggus! 14:16:06 <antonela> great, nyinz had the idea to contact the participants before the meeting to share info. What do you think about it? My biggest concern is about those emails collection 14:17:07 <ggus> antonela: what do you mean by emails collection? 14:17:22 <antonela> i mean that we need to collect participants emails 14:17:36 <antonela> and save them and send emails in a secure way 14:17:42 <antonela> because you know the people we are reaching 14:19:16 * ggus thinking 14:19:28 <antonela> idk -- we can talk about it further after the meeting, but lets think about it 14:19:40 <hiro> what about a ml on riseup? 14:20:07 <hiro> you can ask people to subscribe without having to collect stuff 14:20:20 <ggus> the problem is they aren't using gpg and they are using commercial emails (@corp.com) 14:20:28 <antonela> yes, or an ephemeral pad link 14:20:42 <ggus> but antonela, we already _have_ these emails 14:20:59 <ggus> because we sent the invitation to them 14:21:08 <antonela> oh okey 14:21:18 <hiro> so can't you just send them a survey link? 14:21:30 <ggus> in nairobi we don't have any "sponsoring" organization 14:21:42 <ggus> it basically nyinz and i inviting ppl 14:21:46 <ggus> it's 14:21:48 <antonela> yes 14:22:37 <antonela> i know -- ok, so if you already have those contacts and you contacted them via email, then when you will send next remainder email, we can include that material 14:22:51 <antonela> how sounds that? 14:22:58 <nyinz> ok! 14:23:02 <ggus> ok! 14:23:04 <antonela> cool 14:23:13 <antonela> about to define -- we already talked with nyinz about what needs to be done there, and also about the flexibility we have for the activities 14:24:07 <antonela> nyinz: do you want to update / share a little about it? 14:24:26 <nyinz> sure 14:24:51 <nyinz> btw we should sync about the agenda for Mombasa and go from there atleast 14:25:14 <nyinz> am working with Gus to get things ready for Kenya 14:25:29 <nyinz> sending emails, looking out for more people to invite 14:26:05 <nyinz> am creating personal tool with Antonela, we will meet after this 14:26:20 <nyinz> then analyzing the latest TB8 report by Cibelle 14:27:01 <nyinz> several reports are already on trac platform #27010 14:27:29 <nyinz> done 14:28:10 <antonela> great! 14:28:17 <antonela> yes, the Persona tool became part of the S9 delivery and we will share this process during Mexico. We are still working on it, and everybody is invited to collaborate with us 14:28:24 <antonela> sorry for the gdoc link https://docs.google.com/document/d/12s8KyKk4TNr-iERczLfY8N-wJGbsKqOne6PLXowGsT4/edit?usp=sharing 14:28:47 <antonela> hiro: traumschule worked on some tickets related with the styleguide, i'd like you to take a look to those PRs, is ok? I know you have another prios, but just to keep it in your backlog -- thanks irl for the help also ! 14:29:15 <hiro> yes antonela I have a lots of tickets 14:29:23 <antonela> i know ha 14:29:25 <antonela> thanks! 14:29:28 <hiro> also I think both emmapeel and ggus should be able to push to the support portal 14:29:38 <antonela> \o/ 14:29:39 <hiro> what do you guys think? 14:29:51 <antonela> emmapeel is travelling, but ggus is here ha 14:29:54 <hiro> I think I shouldn't be a blocker for you peeps to fix things 14:30:52 <hiro> if that's ok I am going to make a trac ticket and give you access 14:31:25 <ggus> what do i need to push things to support portal? 14:31:32 <hiro> just git access 14:31:38 <antonela> *just* 14:32:04 <hiro> I think emmapeel has an ldap account so it shouldn't be an issue for me to give access to her 14:32:19 <hiro> ggus do you have an ldap? 14:32:22 <ggus> nope 14:32:25 <hiro> ah ok 14:32:38 <hiro> so for the moment I'll give emmapeel access and we can sort that out 14:32:51 <ggus> works for me :) 14:32:56 <hiro> sounds good 14:33:33 <traumschule> hi there! (reading backlog) 14:33:45 <antonela> cool! lets update emmapeel about it 14:33:53 <hiro> hi traumshule I am going to go through all your tickets these days sorry about the delay! 14:33:55 <antonela> ggus can you sync with her? 14:33:55 <ggus> could we have 5 minutes to talk about support.tpo? it can be at before the end of the meeting. 14:33:59 <ggus> antonela: yes 14:34:03 <hiro> sure even now 14:34:07 <antonela> yes now 14:34:15 <ggus> boom! 14:34:17 <ggus> ok! 14:34:20 * antonela the future is now 14:34:40 <antonela> hi traumschule o/ 14:35:49 <ggus> because we have ES translation done, i'd like to send support.tpo to some digital sec trainers to review the content. so, the chances to have a valuable feedback are bigger 14:36:14 <ggus> but 14:36:40 <traumschule> hiro: np, there are enough other ones :) 14:36:52 <ggus> if you check my last email about support.tpo, you will see that we don't have a feedback process: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-community-team/2018-August/000210.html 14:38:17 <ggus> i have a pad with some currently issues in the portal, so to ppl don't report the same issue again and again, i'll use the same pad to collect the new issues 14:39:23 <ggus> there's also the duplicated questions that i don't know if it's a feature or a bug. 14:39:29 <antonela> haha 14:39:55 <antonela> so, what do you need from us here? hiro needs to know this cycle in order to get your updates 14:43:21 <antonela> about the duplicated questions, I'm not sure -- were they part of the content that you shared with us to implement? or? 14:43:45 <ggus> i don't know if a feedback process/workflow exist before and if i'm jumping in the middle of it... 14:44:02 <ggus> antonela: i can give an example. one sec 14:44:33 <antonela> i think your proposal is good. Not sure if there was a process before 14:44:55 <ggus> https://support.torproject.org/#tbb-6 14:44:58 <antonela> isabela hiro thoughts? 14:45:00 <ggus> https://support.torproject.org/#tbb-32 14:45:30 * antonela thinks that we need to have it open when people arrives from permalink 14:46:10 <ggus> or 14:46:12 <ggus> https://support.torproject.org/tbb/tbb-6/ 14:46:18 <ggus> https://support.torproject.org/tbb/tbb-32 14:46:34 <antonela> oh that is the permalink 14:46:37 <antonela> the other link was the anchor 14:46:42 * antonela phew 14:47:35 <isabela> oi sorry let me read backlog 14:48:14 <isabela> ggus: the wiki page we created is what we got as for feedback process (any feedback not just translation) 14:48:32 <isabela> ggus: let me get the url 14:48:50 <ggus> isabela: yeah, but it was for the initial process, right? 14:49:01 <isabela> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/community/HowToReportBugFeedback 14:49:04 <isabela> yes 14:49:15 <isabela> of course we can refine it and make it better 14:49:30 <isabela> i would say we should include something about translations there 14:49:38 <ggus> no no, i'm talking about a different feedback 14:49:46 <isabela> and maybe we could have at the end some workflow diagrams 14:49:57 <hiro> antonela it was supposed to work like that - I had it fixed... - maybe I need to fix it again 14:49:58 <isabela> of who is responsible for what 14:50:03 <isabela> ggus: ah 14:50:06 <isabela> sorry 14:50:51 <antonela> hiro: nono is ok, i was clicking to the link with the anchor # -- the permalink is the other one and seems ok 14:54:08 <antonela> ggus, what do you need exactly from us? a review on the process? 14:55:24 * isabela steps out for an interview 14:55:36 <antonela> and about the duplicated questions -- hiro, we implemented the content left from the community team or do you think it could be an error/bug with the translation files? 14:56:12 <ggus> yes, a review on the process. i don't know how it was done and i feel in the middle of something. 14:56:26 <hiro> there were duplicated questions in the content 14:56:37 <hiro> afaik it is a feature 14:57:05 <antonela> hiro: great 14:57:20 <hiro> but maybe we do not want that anymore ? 14:57:21 <isabela> ggus: here is a suggestion - maybe draft a process proposal? not worring about what is there already, feel free to write what you think could work 14:57:27 <isabela> and we take from there? 14:57:44 <isabela> i am really out now! interview is about to start!! 14:57:52 <antonela> ggus, you can discuss with community about those duplicated content, i remember tommy working on it a while ago 14:58:02 <ggus> ok! 14:58:29 <antonela> but so far, we implemented the content that they shared with us 14:58:36 <antonela> wow an hour 14:58:44 <antonela> i need to wrap, anything else? 14:59:04 <ggus> nope 14:59:18 <hiro> a wrap wold be nice 14:59:28 * antonela is hungry too 14:59:34 <ggus> yeah, me too 14:59:39 <antonela> thanks people! 14:59:43 <antonela> #endmeeting