15:59:35 #startmeeting 15:59:35 Meeting started Mon Aug 6 15:59:35 2018 UTC. The chair is Phoul. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:59:35 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:59:50 hi! o/ 16:00:02 Hi everyone! We will start today with status updates, is there anyone who would like to go first? Also, flexlibris will not be joining us today as she has a previous engagement. 16:00:08 hi! 16:00:24 i can give a brief thing on nyu/poly meeting 16:00:31 Go for it! :) 16:00:39 k... 16:00:42 so isabela spoke. 16:00:52 the meeting was prob our smallest... ~20 or so 16:01:05 but it was at nyu/poly during summer, so expected. 16:01:24 what was great about it is that we hvae a good layer of regular NYU/poly grad students around... 16:01:41 so qualitatively it was very good. 16:01:50 and if a certain partner of a tpo/tpi person starts teaching at poly... 16:01:59 it could be a good base for tpo 16:02:04 research, contributors. 16:02:17 there are already a few... but it could be known tor spot 16:02:20 relays, etc. 16:02:33 stephw doing another meeting for students aug 15... 16:02:42 Thats awesome! 16:02:43 HS students in a program run by grad students 16:02:52 yes... the next gen of TPO imho 16:02:55 hs? 16:03:00 high school 16:03:00 high school :) 16:03:02 sorry ggus 16:03:02 :) 16:03:03 ok! 16:03:15 So cool! 16:03:25 so next meeting for nyc will be Oct.. .adn we have spot being sorted out in manhattan 16:03:30 yes... good shit kat5 16:03:38 that's it from me 16:03:41 I'm really excited to hear we are getting to present ot some HS students. I'd tried locally in the past and there was a lot of pushback against it, this should be an awesome experience! :) 16:03:58 sounds fun! 16:03:58 hopefully we can be a bridge. 16:03:59 high school :) 16:04:10 to HS students, but also for grad studnets doing related research 16:04:17 we have to be 'network weavers' here. 16:04:36 not just 'here's a paper' but 'talk to the author' and hang iwth them 16:05:06 done 16:05:27 Thank you! 16:05:29 (and yin is playing a great role) 16:05:38 Does anyone have questions for gman999? 16:05:47 yes o/ 16:05:51 uh oh! 16:05:56 where we can follow this calendar activities? :D 16:06:02 :) 16:06:06 err... 16:06:15 we arne't doing that yet.. but should 16:06:17 good point 16:06:46 me and stephw can talk offlist 16:07:09 i’ll add it to the blog calendar 16:07:11 ! 16:07:48 (/me saw her name highlighted) 16:08:09 cool :D 16:08:12 ooops! 16:08:18 Any other questions? 16:08:33 stephw somethin gto add? 16:08:34 isa? 16:08:39 nope 16:08:40 :) 16:08:42 no 16:09:17 Alright, who would like to go next? :) 16:10:10 well, i can go 16:10:17 Please do! :) 16:11:23 last week we had an online meeting with mexican folks to discuss open day activities. we're going to have another meeting in ~15 days, ping me if you want to join us. the meeting is in spanish/spanglish/portunol. 16:12:06 this week i'm going to do this activity: https://blog.torproject.org/events/ix-seminario-de-protecao-privacidade-e-aos-dados-pessoais-sao-paulo 16:12:45 it's only 20 minutes talk about tor privacy by default and design 16:13:51 hello all ^-^ sorry im late 16:13:54 thanks for the ping phoul 16:14:06 ggus: That sounds awesome! And welcome jaruga 16:14:19 ty :] 16:14:35 and this week i'm also collecting feedbacks for support.tpo portal. if you have something send to me. and if you want to improve this workflow, check this thread: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-community-team/2018-August/000208.html 16:14:58 ggus: Thank you for taking that on 16:15:26 and at the end of month nyinz from ux team and i are going to kenya training week. 16:16:02 Is there anything you'd find helpful from this team before that training week? 16:16:28 ops, and before that, on august 23th i'm going to university of campinas to give a workshop about tor. i confirmed the activity last week. 16:17:21 Phoul: at the moment i can't think anything, but i'll let you know :) 16:17:36 ggus: Sounds good, please let us know if there is anything that you need. :) 16:17:44 sure! that's it! 16:18:03 Awesome! Lots of great events going on! Does anyone have questions for ggus? 16:18:28 great stuff ggus 16:19:19 can i go? 16:19:25 emmapeel: Go for it :) 16:20:02 not much to add, except that we are still missing ssome translations for the support portal, and soon it will be available in more languages to test. 16:20:32 stephw sent a new call today https://twitter.com/torproject/status/1026491798229868544 16:21:44 thats it 16:21:50 Awesome! 16:21:58 Does anyone have questions for emmapeel? 16:23:00 Alright, who would like to go next? 16:23:38 I'll go next if no one has anything urgent :) 16:23:47 Please do! :) 16:24:37 (And I can go after jaruga 16:24:37 Not too much in the way of interesting updates here, mostly working on the additions and changes we had discussed last week :) The additional langs are almost done, hopefully ill have the other few things knocked off my list early this week 16:25:00 Wrote a security guide draft for the relay which I think nu is taking over :) & yea, thats about it ^-^ 16:25:27 jaruga: Sounds good! Thanks for looking at adding those languages. 16:25:30 (1st thing @ tb-manual xD) 16:25:35 no problem :) 16:25:38 Does anyone have questions for Jaruga? 16:26:00 o/ 16:27:00 i was checking our trac tickets today, do you think we could fix this one? https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/20537 16:27:22 nice! more langs! 16:27:54 ggus: I dont think that should be too difficult. jaruga / T0mmy would you like to take that ticket? 16:28:02 ggus: That does seem like a good idea in my opinion :) 16:28:07 For sure ^-^ 16:28:11 cool! :D 16:28:21 jaruga do you want to want to add it and I'll push the updateU? 16:28:24 *update?_ 16:28:27 gah 16:28:32 * t0mmy gives up 16:28:47 Sounds perfect :] 16:28:55 Excellent! :) 16:29:05 Any other questions for jaruga? 16:29:06 jaruga perfect, thanks! 16:29:29 jaruga: how are the screenshots on the manual done? 16:31:09 sorry was accepting the ticket hehe :) The screenshots will be done from the matching browser language 16:31:24 nice 16:31:43 ^-^ they should all match when its implemented, assuming I did my job right 16:32:07 * Samdney arrives too late for the meeting. sorry. 16:32:16 hello samdney :) 16:32:27 hi jaruga :) 16:32:32 Any other questions for jaruga? (If not, t0mmy can go) :) 16:32:38 jaruga: are you doing screenshot for tb 8 or stable version? 16:32:39 (hi Samdney :) ) 16:32:46 screenshots 16:33:19 I've been doing them with stable, though that is a good point for longevity :o I can do them with the new browser if that's a preferred idea 16:33:38 jaruga: that is great, because i hope the menus that appear on the screenshots are being slowly translated too... 16:34:00 jaruga: i was asking because i did for tb 8 manual update. let's sync about this. 16:34:48 @ emmapeel They will :) The first thing phoul & i ever did together was changing out the sec slider screenshots, that was.. interesting xD 16:34:52 sooo many language packs 16:34:56 @ guss: sounds good :D 16:35:43 after wednesday i'm cool, i'll ping you :) 16:35:52 works for me ^-^ 16:35:58 great! 16:36:00 Awesome! t0mmy want to go? 16:36:17 Can do! And with added coffee hopefully comes fewer typos. 16:36:23 Famous last words. 16:36:42 "there can't be THAT many indians!" - general custard 16:37:29 Okay! Only thing I've got this week is to introduce wayward, who is going to be our User Advocate starting in September. 16:37:40 I'll let her introduce herself, but this is the job posting we had: https://www.torproject.org/about/jobs-useradvocate.html.en 16:37:51 Hi all! 16:38:11 I'm based in montreal, I'm pretty nerdy, and I'm excited to get started!! 16:38:16 hi wayward! o/ 16:38:18 hi 16:38:25 Another Canadian! We will take over Tor yet. 16:38:28 hehehe 16:38:33 eyyyy im in montreal too! ^-^ welcome 16:38:47 montreal team :) 16:38:53 no way! 16:38:53 oh so much Canadians ;) 16:38:54 wayward: welcome :) 16:38:56 nice to meet you all! 16:39:04 wayward: welcome! 16:39:07 We're taking over the network, one canuck at a time B-) 16:39:20 wayward: Welcome to the team :) 16:39:24 thanks :D 16:39:43 one maple syrup at a time 16:39:54 +100 antonela! 16:39:55 xD 16:40:03 Does anyone have questions for t0mmy / wayward / canada? ;) 16:40:23 ggus, we have mate? capivaras? lol 16:40:37 one yerba mate at a time 16:40:48 arent capivaras those huge rodents? <3 16:40:56 jaruga: exactly! 16:40:56 (sorry off topic xD) 16:40:56 oh they are! 16:40:59 I love those <3 16:41:10 Phoul: i'd like to discuss about tor relay guide, if we have time. 16:41:11 :D 16:41:26 ggus: Noted, I think we should have a bit of time. 16:41:30 Who would like to go next? 16:42:11 I can go if there isnt anyone waiting 16:43:00 My status update is at https://storm.torproject.org/shared/2lhFPhi3s3-7XtUBJHejOKobgNUDjCwcC97le_FK8mb . The main thing is the PETS community night from 2 weeks ago (sorry for missing last weeks meeting), it went really well and we had a good turnout. We gained a few relay operators, and a few current operators in Barcelona have stated they play to increase capacity. 16:44:12 Will give people a moment to look at the pad, and ask any questions. If there are no questions we can move onto the relay guide discussion. 16:46:31 Any questions? 16:47:03 i'm good :) 16:47:33 ok, we will move onto the relay guide discussion. If anyone has questions, im happy to answer them after the meeting. 16:47:37 ggus: go ahead :) 16:47:46 pong! 16:47:50 here. sorry 16:47:57 gman999: ^ 16:49:05 ok! 16:50:03 so, last week egypcio did some changes in tor relay guide, and another contributor reverted it, and so we had a classical wiki edit clash. 16:50:17 nusenu send this email to tor-dev: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2018-August/013376.html 16:50:23 (i don't know why tor-dev..) 16:50:42 and i think community team should step in 16:52:00 Just reading the post 16:52:04 i don't know if everybody followed this discussion. so, let's give ppl some time to read the email. 16:52:59 lordy lordy 16:53:15 def seems like some crossed wires 16:53:48 ok, I think it might be helpful if everyone involved with the relay guide met and discussed this. I will send an email after this meeting to schedule something, or we can discuss via email. Since nusenu isnt here, I dont want to speak for him. 16:54:44 Im sorry your changes got reverted egypcio, we will get this sorted out so everyone is on the same page. 16:55:04 yes... i'm a bit confused by the whole thing 16:55:19 we are slowly mergeing torbsd wiki stuff into official tpo stuff... 16:55:26 road blocks are a distraction 16:55:33 I am as well, I think there is a miscommunication going on. 16:55:40 egypcio: i just introduced the subject, feel free to join the discussion. 16:55:42 yes, i hope so 16:56:05 (we will have to vacate the channel in a minute or two for the core tor meeting) 16:56:26 Is there anything urgent / last minute people wanted to get into the meeting notes? 16:56:29 at this point, others should just be aware of hte situation 16:56:48 * Phoul nods 16:56:58 ggus: Thanks for bringing this up, i missed that thread due to it being on dev. 16:57:53 OK, I'm gonna shut the bot off. Thanks everyone for coming, we can continue discussion in -project or -relays, I will get that email sent as promised. 16:57:56 #endmeeting