15:58:56 #startmeeting ux sync 15:58:56 Meeting started Tue Jul 10 15:58:56 2018 UTC. The chair is antonela. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:58:56 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:59:04 hello people! 16:00:00 ! 16:01:11 Hi 16:01:23 hi helen! 16:01:46 ! 16:02:14 to start, i put together a kind of roadmap for the UX team, isabela and I we still need to work on it but you can take a look here 16:02:20 https://storm.torproject.org/grain/Axp7tzSEDo9beQ295CAxxh 16:02:40 some of the items there are still ongoing from the last month, so its okey 16:03:17 (it seems like that requires permissions to access) 16:03:38 ciao hellais! 16:03:38 ah 16:03:41 sorry, use it https://storm.torproject.org/shared/yKBIRUmmXACdrot99JchcTAXbuESfCjpWF6BUZmTsxa 16:04:18 Thanks! 16:04:28 if you have any question, we can talk about them at the end 16:04:42 lets start with the updates! who wants to start? 16:05:11 i have a couple :) 16:05:23 ok I can go next 16:05:40 go for it isa 16:05:45 phase2 of sponsor9 was submitted - thanks everyone! I am working on the countries doc today 16:05:50 \o/ 16:06:12 i am also going to work today on the udpates we will make at the playstores for tb for android alpha release 16:06:24 done :) 16:06:48 related with TBA, that is great 16:06:59 i want to back to TBA work this week 16:07:07 hiro, you next? 16:07:08 * isabela too 16:07:19 yep 16:07:27 TBA = Tor Browser Android 16:07:30 so with Emma we are working to make the translation process easier 16:08:01 there is a Lektor plugin that should make our life easier with transifex 16:08:08 oh wow 16:08:11 and we are using that 16:08:34 and should also allow translators to work on smallest thing, like localizing the footer for example if we wanted that 16:08:46 I mean strings that are in the templates 16:08:51 not just stuff in the content and databags 16:09:08 also last week we got a few contributions from Kevin 16:09:32 we were using oniongit for that before and have already switched to github and it's working ok 16:10:04 ! thats a lot going on :) 16:10:07 hiro, you also moved all our things to github, thanks for doing it! 16:10:13 tx o/ 16:10:22 * flexlibris is kind of around again if needed! 16:10:36 flexlibris <3 16:10:54 hi hi! 16:11:09 and then one last thing I was chatting with the guy that setup this at EFF https://www.eff.org/search/site/gdpr 16:11:20 to understand what kind of issues they have been having using solr and such 16:11:31 for the search? 16:11:36 yes 16:11:41 ah nice 16:11:52 isabela I sent you an update not sure you saw it :) 16:12:21 probably not :( 16:12:22 sorry 16:12:29 no worries! anyways he told me they do not have redundancy with solr 16:12:47 and yes they do get attacks sometimes - but not that often 16:13:00 and what they do is they start looking at the logs and block certain requests 16:13:19 i have been looking at this plugin with hiro, also did some more credentials and talks with Phoul finally too. i am looking onto how to reuse the content already translated in transifex with our new translation files 16:13:33 oops sorry please keep going hiro 16:13:35 which is basically like running a load balancer "manually". I have also another few ideas too 16:13:53 I will reply to the email and we could also sync later 16:13:59 done. and groot. 16:14:15 ok, so i have been looking at this plugin with hiro, also did some more credentials and talks with Phoul finally too. i am looking onto how to reuse the content already translated in transifex with our new translation files 16:14:34 hiro: sounds good 16:15:24 emma is anything else left from Phoul side that you need? 16:15:55 probably a couple more questions about transifex and the host where the translations are updated 16:16:15 access has been asked although not yet granted 16:16:51 is like in a ticket? and this is not just for sites but all translations like tb ones, correct? 16:17:47 there are tickets for the acess to servers, yes, phul opened them. is about all translation> tbb, support portal, everything 16:18:20 bridgedb, https everywhere... 16:18:25 cool 16:18:30 oka, so he has it on his plate 16:19:18 cool, anything else emma? 16:20:06 nope. i am not so scared anymore with this plugin... it looks it standardizes much more the l10n, compared to the ' alternatives' hack in vanilla lektor. i was a bit scared for most of last week 16:20:20 haha, good to know 16:20:28 (i was lost, but now im found) 16:20:52 you woke emmapeel :D 16:20:58 hehe 16:21:30 yeah! 16:21:33 haha 16:21:48 great, thanks emma! 16:21:59 nyinz, you around? 16:23:04 * antonela about emma's lostandfound http://www.evanmcohen.com/portfolio/7s7g30mx5t9s4nx65e25grd6y7zoqy 16:24:22 so, we can wait for helen, i can go next :) 16:24:22 ahahaha 16:24:48 am here! 16:24:51 ohoh sorry! 16:25:02 do you have any update for us :) 16:25:07 sure 16:26:08 so the data from Mumbai, Valencia and Spain is telling a lot...Am working on codifying the insights 16:26:24 me and Gus will be in Nairobi soon! 16:26:31 yes! 16:26:50 Now trying to figure out logistics and training structures 16:27:05 we hope to aso do some UX training in Mombasa 16:27:26 All in all more that 4 stakeholders 16:28:35 nice to see this happening! 16:28:56 sounds great 16:30:14 that's cool helen! 16:30:25 about to have problems + hypotesis section in the country results, the answer is yes. Go for it! 16:31:13 I do however need help setting up my MIRC account and working with the Harvest app. Anyone with advice? 16:31:42 i think pastly is a good person for the MIRC 16:31:48 i can help you with Harvest :) 16:32:04 cool! thanks Isa 16:32:06 yes, pastly is the IRC human 16:32:10 hahaha 16:32:15 haha really? 16:32:23 he *knows* 16:32:25 heh... regarding irc, i found out there is a host that provides irc 16:33:04 in case anybody wants to set up a screen session with irssi. it works with OTR :D 16:33:20 If you'd like an account on my bouncer at https://ircbouncer.system33.pw/ nyinz, email me at pastly@tp.o 16:34:21 sure thing. thx! 16:35:55 we have a core irssi mantainer around us 16:36:12 hehe 16:36:19 emmapeel: if you need something about it 16:36:33 i am a happy irssi user 16:36:49 :) 16:37:05 cool! helen, anything else? 16:37:51 antonela, who? 16:38:10 nyinz 16:38:19 ^ 16:38:19 uh I am not sure how you do bookings? Gus mentioned a service you all are part of. 16:38:36 oh yes 16:38:51 let me dm you with this information after the meeting 16:39:00 k 16:39:04 ggus and you should book those trips this week i heard 16:39:47 nyinz are you in #tor-internal? or not yet? 16:40:26 Email list yes! 16:40:41 cool, and irc channel? 16:40:45 here on IRC no 16:40:55 * kushal has a question for open floor. 16:40:57 oka, i'll see how to fix that 16:41:52 kushal: sure!, after updates, we have time for questions :) 16:43:19 nyinz, you good? 16:44:11 yes! 16:44:19 cool, thanks! 16:44:35 on my side, I wrote down Colombia's trip notes. I shared with you over email because we have sensible information there. 16:44:47 Also, I set up with flexlibris the activities that the UX team is going to facilitate/run during Mexico; those are: 16:44:58 1) Who are Tor users? Persona tool presentation and recap about our S9 travels this year 16:44:58 2) TB8 Alpha Desktop and TB for Android User Testing 16:44:58 3) Torproject.org + support.tpo + community.tpo presentation 16:45:12 :D 16:45:24 all of those are work in progress and i'll ping you people of the team to run them with me, for sure :D 16:46:10 about github move: so, I didn’t touch ux repos yet, but i forked /styleguide :) 16:46:30 i know isa is working on sorting that but i'm anxious, are we going to have any sync with trac or not for now or maybe in the future? 16:47:01 - we can talk about that later = 16:47:19 yes, i plan on collecting all teams responses and build the plan 16:47:25 sorry it will take a bit 16:47:34 i know, thanks isa for think about our repos! 16:47:35 haha 16:47:41 ehehe 16:47:46 also, ooni folks (who are using slack to run this meetings, if you prefer) are going to start a user research for the new probe app they have been developing 16:48:16 nyinz i would love if you sync with them to see what they are doing, if they need any help and we can share what/how we are doing things here now 16:48:46 i hope that we can join forces with ooni designers+researchers <3 16:49:33 for this week, i need to back to the designer's hat, i have tickets for Tor Browser and for Tor Browser Android which I need to work with 16:49:47 mostly onboarding for both 16:49:58 ok. Very nice. We can talk later about who is the focal person/people I should be intouch with 16:50:10 super, thanks nyinz 16:50:21 Oh my, is this the UX meeting? 16:50:25 I missed it again 16:50:29 I am here though! 16:50:32 haha 16:50:34 (for what's worth it) 16:50:36 hola elio! 16:50:59 technically you haven't missed it, although you did arrive late 16:51:03 cool, nyinz is our user research coordinator, she will ping you to sync about the research you are about to start 16:51:12 elioqoshi ^ 16:51:20 not sure how mentions work in your slack world 16:51:37 I think with @? 16:51:46 @elioqoshi 16:51:51 hiro: should be 16:52:01 i feel quite dumb doing @ here in irc haha 16:52:19 oka, that is mostly all my side 16:52:21 That worked 16:52:33 Superb, thanks :slightly_smiling_face: 16:53:15 Is there anything else specifically I can help out with? 16:53:30 #action: nyinz will ping elioqoshi about the research about to start 16:53:43 elioqoshi, well i have a lot of things going on, not sure about your availability 16:53:57 i'd like to work with you on Tor Browser icon 16:54:20 I'd be happy to help with that as I said 16:54:21 i have plans to make it in a open process :), we can invite friends from opensourcedesign :) 16:54:31 Yeah that sounds great 16:54:36 will ping you later about it 16:54:41 Also, if you need a reason to visit us: 16:54:52 https://opensourcedesign.net/summit/ 16:55:02 ohh you got the localship 16:55:03 ahha 16:55:12 cool! 16:55:23 thanks for sharing @elioqoshi 16:55:27 Eileen from Simply Secure will be there too most likely 16:55:39 and others from OSD. It's mostly a meta working session between designers 16:55:52 Not much inspirational talks and similar 16:55:54 nice 16:55:58 she is extremely cool! 16:56:16 we are almost in the hour! 16:56:20 kushal, do you have a question? 16:58:28 What is the best place to provide feedback on the alpha releases? In particular about UX etc? 16:59:57 if you would like to document your feedback you could do it in a ticket 17:00:04 https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-80a9 17:00:12 there too :) 17:00:25 give feedback and report back section gives you some ideas about how to report things :) 17:01:04 we have people from the community team monitoring it often 17:01:30 if you have any specific about ux, yes you can open a ticket and mention the ux-team tag 17:01:57 cool, we are done! is everybody groot? 17:03:10 i think so :) 17:03:11 groot 17:03:11 #endmeeting