14:32:04 #startmeeting metrics team 14:32:04 Meeting started Thu Mar 29 14:32:04 2018 UTC. The chair is karsten. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:32:04 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:32:32 https://storm.torproject.org/shared/5h1Goax5eNusxjXJ_Ty5Wl7hFR1uqCReUiN8xdlBG8T <- new agenda pad 14:32:39 by the way, iwakeh, does that pad load faster? 14:32:47 * irl 14:32:51 yes! 14:32:53 hi irl! 14:32:58 iwakeh: okay, great, good to know. 14:33:13 irl: want to add something to the agenda? 14:33:34 nope 14:33:39 okay. let's start. 14:33:44 * metrics-web: can we speed up `ant war` and reduce file size of the generated .war? (karsten) 14:33:55 iwakeh writes on the pad: - This is most likely due to the humongous rs (ticket 25392 and child). RS should become part of metrics-web. 14:33:58 I commented on pad. 14:34:08 i thought 40 seconds wasn't bad for a java web thing 14:34:12 hehe 14:34:20 but I'm not sure if it's RS related. 14:34:26 that is the ancient java days before 2k. 14:34:36 ;-) 14:34:39 RS does introduce a lot of new files, but they're not particularly big 14:34:45 I think it was slow before we added RS. 14:34:51 it's all the jetty stuff. 14:34:56 I guess my question is: 14:34:59 Many duplications. 14:35:00 i was wondering how do we profile it 14:35:17 and is there some compression happening in the war stage that we can just turn off 14:35:25 are there any tweaks that we can do really easily that we haven't done yet, because it didn't matter? 14:35:47 Well, the integration and straightening out of duplications and different paths 14:35:56 is a value in itself and might 14:36:07 also help the creation speed. 14:36:17 should I open a ticket? 14:36:23 There are two 14:36:24 (I guess that was really the question I had.) 14:36:28 oh, ok. 14:36:31 #25392 14:36:38 #25393 14:36:56 It's just that 14:36:57 waiting for trac.. 14:37:35 ah, I meant tickets for making it faster/smaller if it's not related to RS. 14:37:40 (trac is slow ...) 14:38:40 let me check whether it was much faster/smaller before we added RS, and if not, open another ticket. ok? 14:38:52 Right, and that way 14:39:03 we have a reference system, 14:39:10 your development machine ;-) 14:39:24 which doesn't do the job in 40 seconds... 14:39:27 okay! 14:39:41 alright, moving on. 14:39:43 * Onionoo release to fix the bug that nusenu is worried about: mid-April? (karsten) 14:39:52 which bug? 14:39:53 there's an open question on the mailing list. 14:40:04 let me find it. 14:40:27 https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/22594 14:40:49 ah 14:40:53 rather a friendly request. 14:40:53 yes, we should definitely fix that 14:41:01 so, my plan was to just release that with the next major protocol version, which would be around mid-april. 14:41:16 yes, it's fixed. but not yet released/deployed. 14:41:24 is that too late? 14:41:33 i think that's ok 14:41:34 (the ticket is 10 months old.) 14:41:38 was 14:41:40 I understood nusenu to just wanting to be informed 14:41:45 right. 14:41:55 so, no urgency. 14:41:55 okay, I'll tell him that this is our plan then. 14:41:56 i had a discussion with some people in rome, and onionoo really needs to be more consistent and reliable than it has been historically 14:42:11 ah, mind telling more? 14:42:13 in the next couple of months i want to try and move people from their crazy hacks to using onionoo as a data source again 14:42:24 consistent how? 14:42:32 people that were previously using onionoo had come up with other systems as onionoo had been going down too often 14:42:37 i mean, consistent with a recent consensus 14:42:54 ah ok. 14:42:58 so not dropping relays because their contact lines are escape characters, would be a thing 14:43:06 What about the experiment with collector2? 14:43:27 in general i think onionoo has been getting better 14:43:33 so, the contact line thing did not happen in the wild anymore. AFAIK. 14:43:39 ah cool 14:43:48 @karsten didn't you start that? 14:43:50 the collector2 experiment looked okay. 14:44:03 it took longer than expected, because there were still quite a few bridge descriptors. 14:44:21 so, if we switch, onionoo will be "down" for a few hours. 14:44:40 (oh yes) 14:44:42 iwakeh: unless you delete more bridge descriptors from recent/. 14:44:53 everything except the last three days. 14:45:07 ok. 14:45:12 and we'll have to coordinate this. 14:45:15 on both instances. 14:45:48 unrelated: corsicum had issues, too. 14:45:51 true. 14:45:56 corsicum = collector2. 14:45:59 what kind? 14:46:06 I really hope we're not switching to a differently broken host. 14:46:18 hmm, not sure if I can find out. let me check. 14:47:04 no, I can't. I just see that it went down three times yesterday. 14:47:13 longest downtime from 11:54 to 14:10 (cest). 14:47:29 hmm, maybe wait with the switch then. 14:47:39 can we fetch from two collectors?... 14:47:45 Until we know what this was caused by? 14:48:04 Try one and if it times out the other? 14:48:11 try both. 14:48:16 or, download from both. 14:48:20 and deduplicate internally. 14:48:35 we should try out. 14:48:46 yep. 14:48:59 I can do that, but not in march. 14:49:05 (fully booked for sponsor 13) 14:49:24 well, March is over with Easter. 14:49:25 so, okay, I'll try out next week. 14:49:36 right. 14:50:31 okay. 14:50:40 so many action items for me! 14:50:45 alright, moving on? 14:51:04 fine 14:51:10 ok 14:51:10 * Sponsor 13 deliverable 2 timeline for the rest of March (karsten) 14:51:25 I'm still working on the Relay users part. 14:51:47 but, I admit, we're almost out of time this month. 14:51:52 It is a lot. 14:52:34 here's what I'll do: 14:52:47 I'll try to finish that part and send it to our sponsor. 14:52:53 without publishing. 14:53:16 and then we'll do the review/revision dance next month. 14:53:20 Ah, they are interested in reading the drafts? 14:53:31 maybe, I don't know. 14:53:42 they want to see what progress we're making. 14:53:53 isabela does, probably. 14:53:55 maybe they'll just count the pages. 14:54:08 yes, and isabela wants to know. 14:54:23 and should. 14:54:26 ! 14:54:31 ! 14:54:34 oi 14:54:37 hello! 14:54:41 hi! 14:54:56 okay, I'll send what I have by end of the month to isabela. 14:55:05 and we make it (even!) better in april. :) 14:55:21 that's all on this topic from me. 14:55:23 yes, sponsor would be happy w drafts too because they can see the process / progress 14:55:30 sounds good! 14:55:32 well, and have another started activity by then. 14:55:33 :) 14:55:54 iwakeh: true! please share the status of that with me. 14:56:20 #25644 14:56:48 okay, please update that before the month ends. 14:56:54 karsten: surely. 14:57:03 perfect! 14:57:06 out of topics? 14:57:18 i have no more topics 14:57:24 me neither. 14:57:49 great! short meeting. let's talk more next week! 14:58:01 happy holidays, and bye, bye! 14:58:06 bye! 14:58:13 Happy Easter! bye, bye! 14:58:16 #endmeeting