18:59:48 #startmeeting tor browser 18:59:48 Meeting started Mon Dec 11 18:59:48 2017 UTC. The chair is GeKo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:59:48 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:59:53 hi all! 18:59:55 . 18:59:58 Hi! 18:59:59 hi! 19:00:09 howdy! 19:00:10 i know some of us are busy with being at the all hands meeting 19:00:26 but still we can do a useful meeting i think 19:00:38 today first time with the new format i outlined on tbb-dev 19:00:53 the meeting pad is at https://storm.torproject.org/grain/3n99bRjWCenXNgAWYydntW/ 19:01:05 i hope everyone can see it 19:01:30 let's have a couple of minutes to read through each other's updates 19:01:52 in case there is something you like to have dicussed please mark it as bold 19:01:59 that's not the same URL as in the email? 19:02:00 https://storm.torproject.org/shared/tHoN4Ii7rLSjPE0OP4gydX4cMGadsXmRQNc-6lwru0N is the link I used 19:02:13 ah, sorry, yes 19:02:21 seems permission deied fo the grain just pasted :) 19:02:46 https://storm.torproject.org/shared/tHoN4Ii7rLSjPE0OP4gydX4cMGadsXmRQNc-6lwru0N is the one, yes 19:05:25 okay, it seems we have only one item for today 19:06:05 releases are out and we plan to have another alpha next week to pick up a new tor alpha and patches in our backlog 19:06:29 mcs: if kathy and you could help with reviews that would be good 19:06:43 i think i'd need one for #23104 19:06:48 GeKo: okay 19:06:52 and #23106 19:06:56 errr 19:07:00 #23016 19:07:29 i am not sure about #24398 as i could not reproduce it when i tested 19:07:49 if you can then, neat, the fix is not that complicated 19:08:00 otherwise i think i can handle the other reviews 19:08:07 When dio you plan to start the builds? 19:08:21 i think on monday 19:08:27 maybe on the weekend 19:08:49 Okay. We will try to get to the reviews in the next couple of days so there is plenty of time left. 19:08:58 thanks 19:09:00 (for tweaks etc) 19:09:27 yep. 19:10:08 sysrqb: have you already started working on merging the orfox patches into tor browser? 19:10:36 i am asking as igt0 has it as a possible item to work on next week as well 19:10:57 GeKo: yes, I already started. i wanted to ask/confirm 52.5.2 is the best branch 19:11:17 yeah, and I saw igt0 assgned the trac ticket to themselves 19:11:25 I was going to discuss it with them 19:12:14 the best branch is the 52.5.2 one for tor browser 7.5 19:12:30 in general the one used in the alpha versions 19:12:31 okay 19:12:51 and, yes, coordinating with igt0 seems smart to avoid double work 19:13:04 i am fine if one of you rebases and the other reviews the work 19:13:43 it would give both of you an overview about the patches currently used/needed for mobile 19:14:08 i was cherrypicking onto 7.0.1, and this may be a good middle stage, but I'll make sure they apply cleanly on 7.5, too 19:14:14 yes, agreed 19:14:20 GeKo, sysrqb it sounds a great idea 19:14:22 sysrqb: igt0: feel free to work out yourselves who is doing what in that regard 19:14:56 will do 19:15:02 okay. 19:15:30 sysrqb: igt0: another thing to consider for the longer run 19:15:48 we have two extensions in tor browser on the desktop we maintain ourselves 19:15:57 torbutton and tor launcher 19:16:14 and we need both of them ported to mobile 19:16:45 i thought one of you would work on the torbutton port and the other one on the tor launcher port 19:17:11 feel free to look at the respective code and pick one of the code bases 19:17:19 okay, will do 19:17:44 we can then think about how to do the porting and what the outcome should look like 19:18:18 It would be good to have a proposal for the port before a lot of work is done. I think that is what you are saying. 19:18:19 e.g. it might be smart to rewrite the code that only the ui for desktop and mobile differs 19:18:27 yes 19:18:44 i don't expect the work getting done in the next week 19:18:49 :) 19:18:52 but it will be a longer project 19:19:12 and we should start thinking about both ports 19:19:44 (do finish my sentence above: while both desktop and mobile could use the same backend) 19:20:11 I know n8fr8 is working on launch screen for onion browser, and thought android and ios should have a similar experience 19:20:35 we may want to consider their work while we port tor launcher 19:20:37 yeah, that could be a think we want to take into account too. 19:21:33 sysrqb: igt0: i think it is realistic if you decide who wants to work on the torbutton port and who on the tor launcher port and start looking into the code bases 19:21:51 and then we get started for realz with that project in january 19:22:06 sounds good to me 19:23:00 ah great, so should we propose the UX for both extensions as well (if yes, we could propose changes in the desktop one?) 19:23:18 you could do that 19:23:33 but once we are going down that road we should loop in the ux team 19:23:42 but generally, sure 19:24:21 okey dokey 19:25:21 okay, that's all the items i have 19:25:46 cool, me too 19:25:52 should we send out an email to tor-project with our meetin notes like the network team is doing? 19:25:57 *meeting 19:26:07 sounds like a good idea 19:26:26 yeah, now that not everything is captured with meetbot anymore. 19:26:40 I think that is a good idea (could help improve coordination across teams). 19:26:48 yep 19:26:49 And good point r.e. MeetBot 19:26:56 yes 19:26:57 i'll do that later then 19:27:38 alright. thanks for coming and happy tor-browser-improving *baf* 19:27:42 #endmeeting