18:00:03 <GeKo> #startmeeting tor browser
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18:00:07 <GeKo> hi all!
18:00:18 <GeKo> welcome to a new tor browser meeting
18:00:27 <GeKo> let's start with the status updates as usual
18:00:41 <mcs> hi
18:00:50 <boklm> hi!
18:00:56 <isis> GeKo: oh you're right, in high-sec mode also not much is working (with JS disabled)
18:02:06 * isabela is lurking a bit
18:02:25 <GeKo> who wants to go first today?
18:02:57 * mcs can go first
18:03:03 <arthuredelstein> hi everyone!
18:03:05 <mcs> Last week, Kathy and I created a patch for #22592.
18:03:13 <mcs> We reviewed patches for #13398, #21321, and #23044.
18:03:22 <mcs> We did some testing for #22434 and confirmed that we do not have a regression.
18:03:33 <mcs> We did some miscellaneous bug triage / research.
18:03:43 <mcs> We reviewed the Tor Launcher UI proposal, provided feedback, and participated in a meeting about it.
18:03:48 <mcs> Finally, we started to look at #21542.
18:03:54 <mcs> This week we will work more on #21542.
18:03:58 <mcs> We will review linda's latest Tor Launcher UI proposal.
18:04:03 <mcs> Also, we will create a "wish list" of what we need from the tor daemon in order to build the proposed Tor Launcher progress bar experience.
18:04:07 <mcs> That's all for now.
18:04:44 <GeKo> thanks
18:04:50 <GeKo> who is next?
18:05:50 <GeKo> i guess that's me then
18:06:13 <GeKo> okay. we had to deal with #23044 which did cost me almost two days :(
18:06:32 <GeKo> but thanks to boklm's help we got releases out fairly quickly i think
18:06:48 <GeKo> even though we had to do a bunch of novel things
18:07:04 <GeKo> like just releasing for one platform, doing the releasing in sekrit etc.
18:07:35 <GeKo> then i worke on some reviews
18:07:51 <GeKo> for #22563, #23024, #22362
18:08:12 <GeKo> and #22542
18:08:31 <GeKo> i am currently looking at a bunch of other tickets marked with TorBrowserTeam201707R
18:08:49 <GeKo> hopefully we get many of them in the next alpha/stable
18:09:49 <GeKo> i did the usual bug triage and a bunch of meetings
18:10:05 <GeKo> this week i try to get things ready for the upcoming releases
18:10:21 <GeKo> the plan is to start the building on thursday morning UTC
18:10:30 <GeKo> hopefully we have a mozilla tag by then
18:11:24 <GeKo> i hope i find time to work further on #16010, #22692 and #21256 as well
18:11:30 <GeKo> that's it for me for now
18:12:13 <GeKo> who is next?
18:12:16 * arthuredelstein can go
18:12:26 <arthuredelstein> Since last time, I posted a new patch for #22343.
18:12:39 <arthuredelstein> and I worked on #12418 (ubsan).
18:12:51 <arthuredelstein> I met with the UX team regarding security slider/NoScript UX.
18:12:59 <arthuredelstein> And I met with Mozilla's tor uplift teacm and I reviewed some bugzilla uplift patches.
18:13:23 <arthuredelstein> This week I plan to work on #22616 and continue work on #12418, and look at revisions to my hardening flags patches.
18:13:39 <arthuredelstein> That's it for me
18:14:02 <GeKo> arthuredelstein: the most important things for this week would be helping with reviews
18:14:11 <GeKo> we need a second one for #21321
18:14:24 <GeKo> (i think it should go into the stable if all looks well)
18:14:42 <GeKo> and for #22618, too
18:15:07 <arthuredelstein> Sounds good. I'll have a look at those and any other tickets needing review
18:15:27 <GeKo> and you might want to have a look at the one for #13398 even if it just is for seeing how one of the candidates writes coce
18:15:34 <GeKo> *code
18:15:41 <arthuredelstein> yes
18:15:42 <GeKo> thanks
18:16:04 <arthuredelstein> Oh, I forgot to mention I will be afk on part of Wednesday and all of Friday
18:16:27 * boklm can go
18:16:45 <boklm> This past week I helped with the security bugfix release. I reviewed #20848 and #20929, and I worked on #22499 which is now almost ready.
18:16:54 <boklm> This week I'm planning to finish #22499, try to compare rbm and gitian builds, help building the new releases, and work on the fpcentral setup.
18:17:04 <boklm> That's it for me.
18:17:42 <GeKo> thanks. who else is here for some status update
18:17:43 <GeKo> ?
18:19:33 <arthuredelstein> GeKo: boklm: thanks for your quick work on #23044
18:19:38 <GeKo> okay, discussion time
18:20:05 <GeKo> heh, yeah. luckily the patch was not so tricky and easily to test
18:20:57 <GeKo> arthuredelstein: this kind of issue is one of the things to keep in mind for the proxy-bypass-framework thing
18:21:15 <GeKo> i guess i'll mention that on the respective mozilla ticket
18:21:41 <arthuredelstein> yes, definitely
18:21:53 <GeKo> mcs: before i forget it, i think i could need some help tracking #23064 down
18:22:06 <GeKo> like giving the user some useful things to try to get debug info
18:22:20 <mcs> GeKo: okay
18:22:36 <GeKo> i currently don't have a mac anymore i could use and don't know the most efficient ways on OS X to get the information we need
18:22:53 <mcs> One point of discussion could be code reviews via oniongit. Aside from the JS requirement that has come up, Kathy and I do not like the lack of integration between the bug tracker and code review comments.
18:23:09 <GeKo> isabela: ^
18:23:13 <mcs> (it will be harder to learn the history of a fix later)
18:23:33 <arthuredelstein> mcs: I agree
18:23:33 <GeKo> hm. that's a good point
18:23:58 <GeKo> and just duplicating the comments does not make much sense
18:24:17 <mcs> agreed. I wonder how the designers of that system intend for it to be used?
18:24:33 <mcs> maybe it works better if you also use their issue tracker
18:24:45 <GeKo> but mozilla's mozreview seems to be something similar, right?
18:24:55 <GeKo> a different review tool and a bug tracker
18:25:16 <GeKo> or am i missing some integration they have that bridges the gap?
18:25:18 <mcs> Mozilla seems to have some of the same issues. At least it seems to me that some people like the separation and some people do not.
18:25:35 <GeKo> ah, okay, that could be it
18:25:37 <mcs> I think Mozilla has some integration but I don’t know all of the details.
18:25:48 <arthuredelstein> mozreview comments get pasted back into the ticket generally speaking
18:26:18 <GeKo> aha, nifty
18:26:35 <GeKo> yeah, having that would be neat, i agrree
18:26:37 <arthuredelstein> (with a few lines of source code for context)
18:26:40 <GeKo> *agree
18:27:02 <GeKo> there will be a meeting at the 7th
18:27:19 <GeKo> where we should bring up all the things we learned so far
18:27:52 <mcs> Right. I will try to attend.
18:28:07 <GeKo> 1400 UTC in #tor-project
18:28:52 <GeKo> okay. just as an announcement from me: i'll probably be afk on wednesday as i'll be traveling
18:29:14 <GeKo> and i plan to take another week of (8/14-8/18)
18:29:26 <GeKo> although i'll have internet in that one for emergencies
18:29:54 <GeKo> any other thing that's noteworthy or should be up for discussion?
18:30:33 <GeKo> if not, then thanks all! *baf*
18:30:36 <GeKo> #endmeeting