18:00:25 <GeKo> #startmeeting tor browser
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18:00:31 <GeKo> hi all
18:00:40 <mcs> hi
18:00:43 <Yawning> hi
18:00:44 <GeKo> and welcome back to our regular meeting schedule
18:00:57 <GeKo> let's start with our usual status updates
18:01:06 <GeKo> who wants to go first today?
18:01:25 * mcs can go first
18:01:36 <mcs> Last week, Kathy and I were on vacation and afk most of the time.
18:01:41 <mcs> During the prior two weeks, we finished #18913 (thanks to GeKo for his review and for landing the patch).
18:01:47 <mcs> We spent a little time on #22618, #22659, and #22731.
18:01:55 <mcs> We participated in the localization AMA session on June 23rd.
18:02:02 <mcs> Finally, we provided some feedback on Linda’s proposed Tor Launcher redesign and on June 30th we attended the meeting that she organized on that topic.
18:02:07 <mcs> This week, first we will catch up on what we missed while we were out.
18:02:12 <mcs> Then we will take a fresh look at the download prompt problem (#22471 and similar tickets).
18:02:17 <mcs> Maybe we can fix https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440892 or come up with a different workaround that is compatible with ESR 52.
18:02:22 <mcs> That's all for us.
18:02:46 <Yawning> I found a self rando bug, and I am horrified that people writing a linker don't understand the Linux system call calling conventions.
18:02:46 <GeKo> mcs: welcome back
18:02:48 <Yawning> the end
18:02:54 <GeKo> i hope you had a nice time afk :)
18:02:56 <mcs> GeKo: thx
18:03:17 <GeKo> fwiw: there is #20105 and #17670 waiting for your input
18:03:32 <mcs> GeKo: ack
18:03:35 <Yawning> but upstream fixed it
18:03:40 <Yawning> so yay I guess
18:04:17 <GeKo> yes, we'll use that new commit (or a later one) in our next alpha release
18:04:40 <GeKo> which should give us selfrando for 32bit linux builds as well if all goes as expected
18:05:43 <GeKo> okay, i can go  next i think
18:05:51 <GeKo> last work week was short for me
18:06:17 <GeKo> i caught up with my backlog and ticket triaging
18:06:24 <GeKo> i helped getting 7.5a2 out
18:06:39 <GeKo> i worked on the begin-of-the-month team admin part
18:06:50 <GeKo> and started to update the design doc for the 7.0 series
18:07:04 <GeKo> this week i plan to continue that and get back to my work on #16010
18:07:13 <GeKo> i plan to do reviews
18:07:48 <GeKo> and try to find tickets for our browser job application
18:08:03 <GeKo> that's it
18:08:28 <GeKo> oh i forgot i encountered #22832 and debugged that a bit
18:08:45 <GeKo> begin-of-the-month-reproducibility ftw!
18:08:58 <GeKo> who else is here for the status update?
18:09:00 <tjr> My report is shorter: Aside from the Mozilla All Hands and stuff from that; I have been making (more) progress on getting MinGW into taskCluster, but it is still not there :)
18:10:36 <GeKo> thanks. do we have an arthur here today?
18:10:44 <GeKo> arthuredelstein: ^
18:10:50 <arthuredelstein> Yup, hi!
18:10:52 <GeKo> boklm is afk this week
18:10:54 <GeKo> hi!
18:11:09 <arthuredelstein> Hi everyone -- since last time I wrote a patch for mingw-w64 to deal with #22563 and #22584.
18:11:16 <arthuredelstein> The mingw-w64 folks have accepted the patch into their master branch, so I will try to write a step applying that patch into our build.
18:11:20 <arthuredelstein> I also fixed my patch up for #21999,
18:11:35 <arthuredelstein> and I worked on #22343, but it still needs more work.
18:11:56 <arthuredelstein> This week I will try to finish that last ticket and then look at more tbb-7.0-must tickets and tbb.7.0-issues.
18:12:04 <arthuredelstein> Also I want to look at a couple of security flags in our build. That's it for me.
18:13:18 <GeKo> arthuredelstein: you are still interested working at some hardening deliverbles, right?
18:13:34 <arthuredelstein> GeKo: Yes, for sure
18:13:41 <GeKo> if so have a look at https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/sponsors/Sponsor4
18:13:54 <GeKo> 3.2 activity 1 and 2
18:13:58 <GeKo> if you look for areas
18:14:14 <GeKo> i think there are tickets for almost all of those things in our bug tracker
18:14:39 <GeKo> (i got reminded of that due to recent activity on the CFI and UBSan tickets)
18:15:01 <GeKo> okay, anyone else here for a status update?
18:15:02 <arthuredelstein> OK, great.
18:15:51 <GeKo> arthuredelstein: while thinking about your RWX page work (good stuff!) i was wondering whether we could make tests for that
18:15:55 <arthuredelstein> GeKo: CFI isn't mentioned there; would that still count toward our general hardening deliverables?
18:15:57 <GeKo> which we could run in our test suite
18:16:29 <arthuredelstein> GeKo: Yeah, I was thinking about that. I do think it's possible and maybe something we could uplift to Mozilla as well.
18:16:54 <GeKo> neat. care to file a ticket and making boklm aware of that?
18:16:56 <arthuredelstein> I'll open a ticket
18:16:59 <GeKo> :)
18:17:36 <GeKo> re CFI i think we could argue that it is covered by the 3.2 activity 2
18:17:44 <GeKo> s/the//
18:18:44 <GeKo> okay. let's move on to the discussion part
18:18:49 <GeKo> i have two items:
18:18:49 <arthuredelstein> OK, cool :)
18:19:18 <GeKo> 1) if any of you finds tickets or has some in mind that would be cool to have for browse dev candidates
18:19:35 <GeKo> please file them and/or tag them with `tbb-interview`
18:19:57 <GeKo> the sooner we have a bunch of those tickets the better
18:20:21 <GeKo> if there are questions/concerns with the whole process feel free to raise them as well
18:20:26 <GeKo> be it here or via email
18:20:58 <GeKo> 2) I was wondering whether we want to try to test gitlab for code review like the network people are doing
18:21:39 <GeKo> there will be a meeting tomorrow 1400 UTC in #tor-project about moving things related to trac and code review tools forward
18:22:02 <GeKo> and it might be helpful if we decided we want to be part of that testing period or not
18:22:19 <GeKo> boklm indicated slight interest in trying this tool out
18:22:31 <GeKo> what do other folks think?
18:23:35 <mcs> I do not know a lot about gitlab but am willing to try it. I would not want to use it if it is “process heavy” or adds a lot of overhead.
18:24:02 <GeKo> okay, arthur?
18:24:31 <arthuredelstein> Yeah, I'd like to try it too.
18:24:48 <GeKo> okay. then let's do that.
18:25:15 <GeKo> i think the way to get started it talking to hiro for account to our tpo instance
18:25:38 <GeKo> anything else up for dicussion today?
18:26:15 <arthuredelstein> How many candidates do we want to do tbb-interview tickets do you think?
18:26:28 <Yawning> is the AF_LOCAL firefox bug going to be fixed anytime soon
18:27:46 <GeKo> Yawning: i doubt we get to that this month; having an upstream bug might speed things up though
18:28:04 <GeKo> arthuredelstein: i think three at least
18:28:21 <arthuredelstein> Sounds good
18:28:34 <hiro> geko anytime
18:28:49 <hiro> :)
18:29:22 <GeKo> okay. thanks for the meeting then *baf*
18:29:25 <GeKo> #endmeeting