19:01:10 <GeKo> #startmeeting tor-browser
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19:01:15 <GeKo> hi all!
19:01:29 <GeKo> welcome to a new tor browser meeting
19:01:37 <arthuredelstein> hi!
19:01:42 <GeKo> let's start with the usual status updates
19:01:49 <GeKo> who wants to go first today?
19:02:14 <tjr> I can go first since I don't have much
19:02:26 <tjr> I kept working on getting the mingw patches into mozilla-central
19:02:36 <tjr> filed the three last ones Jacek fixed
19:02:59 <GeKo> the accessibility bustage is due to mingw-w64
19:03:19 <tjr> yea i saw the typelib issue
19:03:23 <GeKo> we need a patch for that which jacek is about to get into the tree it seems
19:03:29 <GeKo> ok.
19:03:41 <tjr> Also worked on Mozilla onion services and am trying to get folks to move forward on that
19:03:50 <tjr> Put some notes in the ESR52 feature thread
19:03:58 <tjr> and that's it/all I can remember :)
19:06:25 <GeKo> i can go next:
19:07:27 <GeKo> i mainly wrote on the design doc update. i hoped i could ge a bit further but then i got dragged into some issues with our keyboard layout fingerprinting defense and it took me more time to come to grips with out font fingerprinting patches
19:07:38 <GeKo> but i'll have this finished this week
19:08:05 <GeKo> while not writing documentation i did the usual begin-of-the-month-admin stuff
19:08:15 <GeKo> and tagged out tickets
19:08:35 <GeKo> i added the sponsor4 item where appropriate
19:09:02 <GeKo> while not writing i provided proper patches for us for our mingw-w64 based builds
19:09:28 <GeKo> and i got the build running on a windows box without crashing
19:09:45 <GeKo> thus, i have a better feeling in that regard now
19:10:06 <mcs> Great news r.e. Windows, by the way!
19:10:07 <GeKo> on the weekened i worked a bit on the descriptor clean-up and on #10369
19:10:20 <GeKo> i am close to have patches ready for that
19:10:41 <GeKo> yeah, i am happy as well, thanks to tjr for the help fwiw :)
19:10:56 <GeKo> this week as i said i'll finish the documentation
19:11:08 <GeKo> and then get back to feature review
19:11:24 <GeKo> i hope to find time to look at patches as well and get things merged
19:11:40 <GeKo> that's it for me for now
19:12:20 * boklm can go next
19:12:37 <boklm> This past week I added meek, obfs4 and the sandbox to the rbm build process. I finally fixed the win_DEP_ASLR test.
19:12:49 <boklm> This week I'm planning to sign the Tor Messenger release, then work on #21404, start looking at #20426.
19:12:54 <boklm> I am also planning to start looking at FPCentral (panopticlick-like GSoC project from last year) to see how to integrate it in our testsuite.
19:13:02 <boklm> That's it for me.
19:13:47 * arthuredelstein can go
19:13:55 <arthuredelstein> This past week I wrote a patch for  #21308.
19:14:04 <arthuredelstein> And I posted patches for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/1305144 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/1333916
19:14:12 <GeKo> boklm: i think we can postpone dealing with moving the hardened series to rbm for now
19:14:26 <GeKo> let's get the other stuff running first
19:14:36 <boklm> yes, ok
19:14:42 <arthuredelstein> I opened #21394 and spent some time investigating the issue. And I did some more investigation of #21323.
19:15:09 <arthuredelstein> I worked on #21398 and #20905 but didn't quite succeed with either of them yet.
19:15:39 <arthuredelstein> Oops, the first should be #21309
19:15:57 <arthuredelstein> I hope to finally finish those two this week as well as #21224 and #21390 if there is time.
19:16:11 <arthuredelstein> That's it for me.
19:16:40 * mcs will go next
19:16:41 <GeKo> arthuredelstein: fwiw: could you comment on #21201, #21309, and #20680?
19:16:52 <GeKo> there were some questions for you
19:17:36 <arthuredelstein> Sure -- will do.
19:17:39 <mcs> Last week, Kathy and I created patches for #21330 and #20761.
19:17:52 <mcs> We also completed some code reviews and spent some time on bug triage, e.g., #21395.
19:17:57 <mcs> And after getting our ESR52 Tor Browser build to succeed on Linux, we experimented a little with multiprocess TB there.
19:18:02 <mcs> This week, we plan to experiment more on Linux with multiprocess TB and Firefox’s ESR52 content sandbox.
19:18:06 <mcs> But we are wondering if we should start looking at other ESR52 tickets, e.g., #16010, or #18530, or one of the child tickets listed in #20680.
19:18:12 <mcs> Advice welcome/
19:18:13 <mcs> .
19:18:17 <mcs> That’s all for us.
19:18:51 <GeKo> i think #18350 is mainly an issue about how we can communicate that to users with macOS < 10.9
19:19:01 <GeKo> err #18530
19:19:07 <mcs> GeKo: right.
19:19:17 <mcs> Maybe some things to think though / make a plan for
19:19:37 <GeKo> yes
19:19:47 <GeKo> along the lines of our 32bit phasing out probably
19:20:13 <mcs> one of the child tickets listed in #20680 might be good for us to look at…
19:20:36 <mcs> Arthur, let me know if you want to handanything to Kathy and me
19:20:38 <GeKo> how is it going with #21267
19:20:43 <GeKo> or #21268?
19:21:03 <mcs> We could work on those :)
19:21:30 <arthuredelstein> mcs: That would be great if you have time to look into those.
19:21:37 <GeKo> i think we still have plans to activate e10s somehow
19:21:42 <mcs> OK. Sounds like a plan. Thanks!
19:21:49 <GeKo> so having those issues sorted out seems worthwhile
19:22:16 <GeKo> who else is here for the status update?
19:23:39 <GeKo> boklm: what's the status of #20949?
19:23:59 <GeKo> (i just hit that one while looking over the feb tickets)
19:24:19 <GeKo> we can move on to discussion time then i think
19:24:49 <GeKo> one item i have: i'll be away from the keyboard next week
19:25:18 <GeKo> but if you all want to meet go ahead without me
19:25:40 <GeKo> otherwise i'll send a not to tbb-dev cancelling the meeting next week
19:26:11 <GeKo> we had a bit of a dicsussion on tbb-dev about our hardened series
19:26:21 <mcs> I am fine with skipping the meeting but am also OK with having it :)
19:26:25 <arthuredelstein> me too!
19:26:34 <GeKo> i am fine leaving that a bit going if there is anything else folks want to add
19:26:53 <GeKo> we are not in any hurry at least :)
19:27:13 <GeKo> but it seems we are moving away from shipping hardened builds as they are right now
19:27:47 <GeKo> and do special debug builds while advertising sandboxed-tor-browser for folks that want a less exploitable setup
19:27:56 <GeKo> fine with me at leasr
19:28:00 <GeKo> *least
19:28:22 <GeKo> that's all i have on my discussion plate for today
19:29:16 <GeKo> anything else we should talk about today?
19:29:27 <mcs> Nothing from me.
19:29:39 <boklm> Nothing from me.
19:29:58 <arthuredelstein> nor me
19:30:40 <GeKo> alright, it seems i'll send the mail to tbb-dev cancelling the meeting next week
19:30:51 <GeKo> thanks all and happy hacking *baf*
19:30:57 <GeKo> #endmeeting