18:00:21 #startmeeting tor-browser 18:00:21 Meeting started Mon Oct 10 18:00:21 2016 UTC. The chair is GeKo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:21 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:27 hi all! 18:00:31 hi 18:00:37 hi 18:00:42 another week with a tor browser meeting 18:00:47 let's do some status updates 18:00:51 who wants to go first? 18:00:57 hi 18:01:01 o/ 18:01:55 * mcs can go first 18:02:02 Last week, Kathy and I tested the patch for #18753 and revised our patches for #20111. 18:02:10 Along the way we found #20304 and created a patch for it. 18:02:17 We also helped debug #20250, we helped with bug triage, and we completed a few code reviews. 18:02:26 During the latter half of the week we made a lot of progress on #20185, which we plan to finish this week and then move on to MacOS sandboxing (#20121). 18:02:31 That’s all for us. 18:03:27 hi all :) 18:04:32 okay, here is what i did: 18:04:50 i finished the usual begin-of-the-month admin stuff, triaged tickets 18:05:02 and spent almost my whole time in the gitian engine room 18:05:38 i wrote patches for #20184, #20302 and am almost done investigating #20301 18:06:04 i started to look at yawning's sandbox code as well 18:06:34 i tried to get our nightly builds going again but that needs still some debugging it seems :( 18:07:05 this week i plan to conitue that and and try to work with the linux sandbox code 18:07:17 + there are a bunch of code reviews waiting it seems 18:07:38 (thanks to everyone looking at some patches already) 18:07:46 that's it for me 18:09:37 who is next? 18:09:57 * boklm can go next 18:10:04 This past week I made patches for #20183, #20182 and #20217. I Looked at why p7zip doesn't set permissions on #20210. 18:10:30 This week I'm planning to continue on #20210, and get a first version of #19067. 18:10:37 That's it for me 18:11:37 * arthuredelstein can go 18:11:46 Last week I posted patches for #20244 and #18093 (the latter needs the former). 18:11:51 I also opened #20317 and posted https://bugzil.la/1253006 (aka #6458) and https://bugzil.la/1308607 (aka #20317). 18:11:58 I reviewed patches for #20111, #20184, https://bugzil.la/1264571, https://bugzil.la/1301523, https://bugzil.la/1264562 18:12:07 And I started working again on #19459 but haven't tracked down the problem in Windows yet. 18:12:20 This week I hope to finish #19459, #16622, and help with whatever SponsorU/sandboxing stuff is needed. 18:12:31 That is all for me. 18:14:47 do we have anyone else for a status update? 18:16:05 i can update tm stuff 18:16:17 unless this is the wrong time / place 18:16:25 go ahead 18:16:54 we're switching to building on top of all the tor browser patches in https://github.com/TheTorProject/tor-messenger-build/pull/9 18:17:05 after naively trying it 18:17:08 i needed to revert 18:17:09 https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor-browser.git/commit/?h=tor-browser-45.4.0esr-6.0-1&id=5995aea1797320295fff1247bf4baac9ec511876 18:17:15 and 18:17:15 https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor-browser.git/commit/?h=tor-browser-45.4.0esr-6.0-1&id=9064546a5e54d94054d944dd910a5db3a67032dc 18:17:27 the first one looks like i just need to set a pref instead of reverting 18:17:41 the second one i haven't looked at yet 18:17:56 that's it for now 18:17:57 thanks 18:18:35 arlolra: What problems were you running into for those two patches? 18:18:51 oh, and is there an open bug for the .dmg background not showing on Sierra? 18:19:04 no 18:19:16 care to file one? 18:19:18 ok, i'll open one 18:19:19 sure 18:19:32 i assume that affects tor browser and tor messenger alike? 18:19:37 yes 18:19:54 wow, that update broke quite some things it seems :/ 18:19:55 arthuredelstein: the first one, the profile wasn't loading 18:20:23 arthuredelstein: the second one, startls in xmpp wasn't workgin 18:20:36 i didn't investigate too much though 18:21:21 arlolra: I'm wondering if those failures indicate some intrinsic problems with those patches. 18:21:50 ah ... well, the first one, i think it's because we're using the certdb 18:22:01 makes sense 18:22:47 So the first patch shouldn't have an error then, though, should it? 18:23:05 i just need to set nocert = false 18:23:19 security.nocertdb: false 18:23:25 i was going to try that now 18:23:32 and hopefully that fixes it 18:23:47 the second patch seems more problematic 18:24:12 but i can report back when i have more details 18:24:29 fwiw: bobnomnom reports #19910 18:24:31 thanks! 18:24:53 interesting 18:24:55 and they might be right and your issue could be a point for it 18:25:28 i have seen at least one scary crash where this code was in the backtrace but it is hard to reproduce 18:26:10 might be coincidence or not, dunno yet 18:26:11 i didn't get any crashes, just xmpp stream closing 18:27:14 fwiw: i saw you asking for a git branch for comm-central in #build 18:27:25 i guess a better channel could be #releng 18:27:50 oh, the instantbird people directed me there 18:27:52 thanks 18:28:01 i could look up the bug where they added esrXX to git for us and you could ping the respective folks 18:28:04 i just did hg-fast-export.sh locally 18:28:31 i might create a tor-messenger repo on git infrastructure and keep that sync'd myself 18:28:44 GeKo: that would be great, thanks 18:30:46 okay, do we have something for discussion? 18:31:37 i tried hard to understand why poor stable osx users are having issues with the control socket and saw mcs/brade did as well 18:31:53 Yes, that is a puzzl.er. 18:31:57 but i guess there is not much to do more on our side until we get more data 18:31:57 puzzler 18:32:14 i.e. profiles at least 18:32:27 It seems like people are somehow running the alpha Tor Launcher but it is unclear how that happens. 18:33:00 yes, especially as they seems to have the stable stuff otherwise (e.g. tor 0.2.8.7) 18:33:03 *seem 18:34:10 Well, the extensions become “sticky” once they open the alpha (if the browser profile is shared between alpha and stable) but tor will be whatever tor is part of the app they open. 18:34:28 that's true 18:34:36 Still, at least a couple of user say they never opened an alpha, right? 18:34:41 users 18:34:42 yes 18:35:01 OK. I think we need more data unless we see this ourselves. 18:35:05 I guess ideally we would keep the browser profiles separate for alpha and stable, right? 18:35:28 Prevent the stable browser from opening a profile from alpha and vice versa. 18:35:45 I don't know how one would do this. 18:36:46 We could do that by using a different TorBrowser-Data directory for alpha… it might be worth doing but might cause some confusion too. 18:36:49 maybe, i am not sure about that 18:36:53 yes 18:38:31 cough https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/20309 18:39:24 sort of :) 18:39:37 arlolra: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1250618 18:39:51 hwine and bhearsum are probably the folks to bug 18:39:57 ty 18:40:36 okay, anything else? 18:41:22 thanks all then *baf* 18:41:26 #endmeeting