18:00:33 <GeKo> #startmeeting tor browser
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18:00:40 <GeKo> hi everyone!
18:00:43 <arthuredelstein> hi!
18:00:54 <boklm> hi!
18:00:57 <GeKo> let's start with the status updates
18:01:04 <GeKo> who wants to go first today?
18:02:16 <GeKo> alright, then i'll start
18:03:13 <GeKo> last week i worked on #13893 (not really successfully), #20118, #19419, #20133 and preparation of the releases
18:03:50 <GeKo> while i was still fighting with the rebase for the alpha (we have some conflicts) mozilla told us that we have another week for the release
18:04:08 <GeKo> it's not clear yet whether we have to rebuild the firefox part
18:04:35 <GeKo> but at least we'll rebundle i guess to get the bundle up-to-date (changelog-wise etc.)
18:04:52 <GeKo> so, this week is another round release preparations on my agenda
18:05:25 <GeKo> oh it was #19417 i meant
18:05:39 * amoghbl1 just walked in
18:06:14 <GeKo> then i want to poke at #13893 again and will help with #20120
18:06:36 <GeKo> i am excited to have an os x user willing to help debugging the problem which is seemingly font related
18:06:59 <GeKo> then i hope to get back at updating the design doc as well
18:07:32 <GeKo> oh, i forgot karsten, boklm and i worked on the tor browser download and update graphs on sunday and posted the result to tor-dev
18:07:43 <GeKo> i guess this is stuff for the discussion part, though
18:07:47 <GeKo> that's it for me
18:08:30 <mcs> GeKo: Let me know if there is anything you want Kathy and I to do to help track down the OSX crash(es)
18:08:46 * arthuredelstein can go
18:08:47 <GeKo> will do.
18:08:58 <GeKo> my current plan is in my last commit
18:09:04 <GeKo> we'll see how good that works
18:09:10 <GeKo> *comment
18:10:03 <arthuredelstein> Also happy to look at that font thing since it's probably something I did :(
18:10:28 <arthuredelstein> This past week,
18:10:30 <arthuredelstein> I wrote patches for #17334 and #17767
18:10:35 <arthuredelstein> did some investigation of #18093 and #16211,
18:10:44 <arthuredelstein> reviewed #14271,
18:10:53 <arthuredelstein> worked more on (but did not entirely solve) #19459
18:10:59 <arthuredelstein> and starting working on #16622.
18:11:03 <arthuredelstein> I also had a meeting with the Mozilla uplift team
18:11:08 <arthuredelstein> I filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1301523
18:11:12 <arthuredelstein> and reviewed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1264573
18:11:29 <arthuredelstein> (The last two are HTTP auth isolation and testing blob URL isolation, respectively.)
18:12:14 <arthuredelstein> This week I will keep working on SponsorU stuff. I can have a look at #20121 if no one else wants to.
18:12:36 <GeKo> that would be neat
18:13:15 * mcs can also help with #20121
18:13:33 <mcs> (I have not looked at it and have no seatbelt experience though)
18:13:56 <arthuredelstein> Nor have I!
18:14:11 <mcs> Well, a team effort might be in order.
18:14:27 <GeKo> sounds like a good idea to me
18:14:32 <arthuredelstein> Sounds good
18:15:21 <arthuredelstein> That's it for me
18:16:10 * huseby can go
18:16:29 <huseby> progress is being made on the first party isolation uplift/refactor to origin attributes
18:16:43 <huseby> the testing framework is in place and the isolation tests from TBB are being moved over right now
18:16:59 <huseby> the origin attribute for isolation is in place and all but just a few subsystems are honoring it now
18:17:21 <huseby> we're still targeting Nov 7th for first party isolation to be all in and passing tests
18:17:54 <huseby> also, work on the unix domain socket support in the proxy framework is moving along
18:18:02 <huseby> that too is also targeted for 11/7
18:18:27 <huseby> all of the mozilla people are booked for being at the dev meeting in seattle
18:18:31 <huseby> we'll see all of you there
18:18:34 <huseby> that's it for me
18:19:16 <mcs> Does the proxy framework effort include Windows or not yet?
18:19:41 <mcs> (as in, Windows will not be ready by 11/7 or will it?)
18:22:04 * mcs will give a report while huseby ponders the Windows question
18:22:05 <GeKo> who is next?
18:22:10 <mcs> Kathy and I missed last week’s meeting.
18:22:12 <GeKo> ah :)
18:22:15 <mcs> In the past two weeks, we mainly worked on Unix domain socket tickets (#14270 and child tickets).
18:22:24 <mcs> We fixed #20040 and created a fixup patch for #15852.
18:22:31 <mcs> We also reviewed some patches.
18:22:36 <mcs> This week we will review more patches, work on #20111, and maybe start to help with #20121 as well.
18:22:41 <mcs> That’s all for now.
18:23:52 <GeKo> yeah, we have got another week. so, maybe at least #20111 can make it into the alpha, too.
18:23:58 <GeKo> would be neat i guess
18:24:10 <mcs> agreed
18:25:27 <GeKo> who is next?
18:25:36 * boklm can go next
18:25:52 <boklm> This past week I help build the new release (now delayed by a week), helped release Tor Messenger, updated patches for #19528 and #19410
18:25:57 <boklm> This week I'm planning to get the testsuite run on the new releases, look at the signing process and sign the new releases, and work on #19067
18:26:03 <boklm> That's it for me
18:28:19 <GeKo> alright. i saw amoghbl1 stumbled in.
18:28:30 <GeKo> anything to report from your side, amoghbl1?
18:28:59 <amoghbl1> Yup! Nothing to report yet, just thought I should be here to announce that I'm starting with the contract!
18:29:09 <GeKo> yay!
18:29:32 <GeKo> so, to give some context: amogh is working on porting the security slider to mobile
18:29:53 <GeKo> that's part of a small grant we got from ISC
18:30:39 <GeKo> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/teams/ApplicationsTeam/TorBrowserAndroid/Roadmap is outlining the project
18:30:48 <mcs> cool!
18:31:27 <amoghbl1> So I'm going to attend these meets regularly and keep you guys updated!
18:32:04 <amoghbl1> And thats all from me :)
18:32:09 <tjr> I'm here as well, but don't have anything to report.  :)
18:32:46 <GeKo> o/
18:33:11 <GeKo> oh, that reminds me that i want to try backporting jemalloc 4.2.1 to the esr45 branch this week
18:33:28 <GeKo> and see what the testsuite is saying
18:33:59 <GeKo> it might help for our memory allocator hardening we promised
18:34:13 <tjr> cool!
18:34:42 <GeKo> okay, it seems we are on our way into the discussion part
18:35:29 <GeKo> do we have items we want to talk about?
18:35:44 <GeKo> i have just the download/update graphs i sent to tor-dev
18:35:46 <GeKo> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2016-September/011378.html
18:36:23 <GeKo> dcf had a nice theory although i am not convinced by it
18:37:00 <mcs> The update ping numbers seem to be generally going down, right?
18:37:25 <GeKo> yes, for some reason after (8) and (9)
18:37:43 <GeKo> and (9) starts before 6.0 came out
18:38:06 <GeKo> at least i'd think so
18:38:37 <mcs> It might be interesting to look at whether we have a lot of people stuck on old versions.
18:38:54 <mcs> (but I don’t think that will explain the (8) and (9) events)
18:39:05 <GeKo> i agree
18:39:51 <GeKo> anyway, this is something to mull over i guess and i just wanted to point folks to it
18:40:02 <GeKo> do we have anything else?
18:41:28 <GeKo> alright, thanks for attending the meeting everybody *baf*
18:41:31 <GeKo> #endmeeting