16:57:54 <isabela> #startmeeting network team
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16:58:34 <isabela> anyone around for updates?
16:58:51 <isabela> I can start
16:59:06 <isabela> 1. Nick mentioned some guard tickets that had no owners were removed by me from the 029 release -- i would like help from folks on identifying them and making sure they have owners and are in the release.
16:59:54 <isabela> 2. Thanks for filling up the pad for the work we can be proposing in grants -- a little bit more information would be helpful, is hard for me to understand the impact/cost/urgency with just few words describing the task. asn hs/mobile is a good example of how more info would be helpful (btw I moved things around and hs/mobile is at the end of the pad now)
17:00:47 <isabela> those are two big asks for me -- things are still very stressful these days but I hope it will end when august ends :)
17:00:52 <isabela> that's it for me
17:00:56 <isabela> anyone else?
17:01:59 <isabela> asn: around?
17:02:00 <isabela> dgoulet: around?
17:02:14 <dgoulet> I am hi!
17:02:18 <isabela> yo!
17:02:58 <dgoulet> last week, on friday, I finally put #17238 in needs_review, it's a big milestone because it's around 18 points in tickets and big step for prop224
17:03:21 <dgoulet> I got a review from asn this morning so I'm currently fixing that. I ran over some tickets from review-group-7 this morning!
17:03:44 <dgoulet> that's about it for me, most of my time was dedicated to finishing #17238
17:03:45 <dgoulet> --
17:04:04 <isabela> cool, is a lot -- do you need more folks helping with review there?
17:04:14 <isabela> 18points is a lot to review
17:04:42 <Yawning> hi
17:04:53 <dgoulet> isabela: yeah... for now I have asn since HS :) but after that we'll need more for sure, usually nickm's review are quite extensive on those big patches which takes sometimes to fix
17:05:08 <dgoulet> isabela: but for now only asn is better, else I get thrown too much stuff at the same time
17:05:15 <isabela> ok
17:05:51 <isabela> cool, Yawning do you have any updates?
17:06:35 <Yawning> uh
17:06:42 <Yawning> working on some of the multithreading stuff
17:07:31 <Yawning> dunno
17:07:50 <isabela> do you think is ok to estimate that basket2 would be finished by mid oct?
17:07:55 <Yawning> no
17:07:57 <Yawning> ?
17:08:13 <Yawning> because I'm forced to split my attention
17:08:18 <Yawning> between core tor and working on that
17:08:27 <isabela> ok
17:08:38 <Yawning> I mean
17:08:43 <Yawning> if that's more important
17:08:44 <isabela> what about mid nov?
17:08:53 <Yawning> I don't know?
17:09:02 <Yawning> It depends on how much other stuff I need to do
17:09:19 <isabela> well is part of a deliverable of sponsors, which ends at the end of nov
17:10:01 <isabela> (i am not saying deployed in tbb, just a workable basket2 pt)
17:10:24 <Yawning> what's there is a workable pt, but I want to change a bunch of stuff
17:10:30 <Yawning> it still needs to be documented
17:10:39 <Yawning> probably other things I'm not thinking about right now
17:11:32 <Yawning> so by the loosest of criteria "it's done, bu tnot deployable, and might end up being quite different from what;'s deployed"
17:12:39 <isabela> ok we should review some of the sponsor-s tickets that are assigned to you (the controllers stuff) when nick is back
17:13:06 <isabela> lets chat more about it offmeeting?
17:13:37 <Yawning> uh sure
17:13:59 <isabela> thanks
17:14:51 <isabela> any other udpates?
17:15:55 <isabela> asn: ping?
17:16:00 <isabela> athena: ping?
17:18:11 <isabela> looks like not that many people are around
17:19:08 <dgoulet> seems so
17:20:13 <isabela> i would need asn or athena to help with the guard tickets for 029
17:20:34 <dgoulet> I saw lots of ticket being created last week about it, that's the extent I know :S
17:21:09 <isabela> Yawning: maybe we can go over what is assigned to you on 029 and remove somethings there so you have more time for basket2
17:21:51 <isabela> i also need more info on the things ppl put in the pad.. but i guess that might be easier to communicate via email list since the meeting is quite empty today
17:22:31 <dgoulet> isabela: do you have a strip down list or you want lots more details on each of the items?
17:23:18 <isabela> just a little bit more detail on the listed items
17:23:39 <isabela> like why is important to do the item would help
17:24:05 <isabela> for example: - Improve infrastructure for padding; test some basic padding.
17:24:10 <athena> isabela: i'm planning to do some of the guard tickets; nickm is probably doing some too
17:24:19 <isabela> athena: hi!
17:24:25 <athena> hi!
17:24:43 <isabela> athena: nickm mentioned I moved them out of the release, which probably happened because they had no owners
17:25:01 <isabela> athena: is there a way i can find them and put them back in?
17:25:41 <isabela> dgoulet: i dont know how to explain the importance of that -- how more padding helps etc
17:26:22 <athena> i set up #19877 as a parent ticket; you can find them all from there
17:26:28 <isabela> awesome
17:26:54 <dgoulet> isabela: I see, in that case I have no clue but I can try to fill in the one I have an idea/opinion for
17:27:05 <isabela> that would help a lot already!
17:27:22 <dgoulet> on it
17:27:25 <isabela> thanks
17:27:28 <asn> yo
17:27:32 <isabela> athena: do you wan to share updates?
17:27:36 <isabela> asn: yo
17:27:38 <asn> sorry im late
17:27:50 <asn> preparing update
17:28:55 <athena> update: revisions after code review on #8625 and #18640; wooot
17:31:12 <asn> Hello. During last week I mainly worked on prop224 implementation (#19043). I
17:31:13 <asn> did code review on #19024, and I also started reviewing the monster branch
17:31:13 <asn> #17238 which is lined up for 029 (!). Let's see if we can hit that deadline.
17:31:13 <asn> The upcming week I plan to continue working on the above two tasks since they
17:31:13 <asn> are both quite huge.
17:32:13 <isabela> ha that reminds me about a discussion point :) -- should we change freeze date to mid sept or mid oct (i think oct is better)
17:32:14 <asn> On the topic of guards, chelsea_komlo from thoughtwoks contacted me and told me that they are attending the dev meeting and are excited to work on stuff with us. We should probably do a session/meeting with them at some point.
17:32:49 <isabela> yes, we should organize that in the wiki - fyi first day, monday is just hacking day afaik
17:33:53 <dgoulet> oh
17:34:11 <isabela> tues, wed are gunner days, thursday is open day -- from what i heard
17:34:33 <asn> ah that's perfect for this purpose
17:34:47 <isabela> asn: are they familiar with the parent ticket athena created?
17:35:05 <dgoulet> one day preparation before Gunner is actually wise I think!
17:35:11 <isabela> :)
17:35:15 <asn> there is such ticket? i'm not familiar myself :(
17:35:28 * asn reads backlog
17:35:41 <isabela> #19877
17:36:45 <asn> oh wow nice
17:37:00 <asn> let's see if i can batch CC myself to all of those
17:37:14 <isabela> cool
17:37:21 <isabela> so back to the freeze date
17:38:31 <isabela> giving the fact that we have the dev meeting at the end of sept, i think we would benefit a lot by having release freeze after that
17:38:36 <asn> (hmm maybe im missing permissions to do batch modify?)
17:38:42 <asn> isabela: i can see that yes.
17:39:11 <asn> i'm personally fine with moving the release date. of course i'd first like to hear nickm's opinion as well
17:39:11 <dgoulet> isabela: +1
17:39:33 <isabela> asn: nickm suggested either mid sept or mid oct
17:39:44 <asn> mid oct sounds good to me
17:39:52 <asn> i agree that the dev meetign will really help in this case
17:39:57 <isabela> i think f2f interactions at dev meeting can help solve pending issues to get stuff done for the release
17:40:01 <asn> yeah
17:41:07 <isabela> asn: i was missing batch modify power and i refreshed it and it came back.. not sure why,how..
17:41:26 <asn> i batch modified the tickets successfully as well!\
17:41:37 <asn> athena: i will be on the lookout for any needs_review or comments in those tickets.
17:41:49 <isabela> ok i will let the rest of the team knows that we are moving the date and update the wiki as well
17:42:23 <isabela> anything else anyone wants to talk about?
17:43:02 <dgoulet> isabela: wait should we make sure with nickm for the release date?
17:43:02 <isabela> if you missed in the backlog -- i asked help on having a little bit more info about the ideas we can put on grants that folks listed in the pad
17:43:15 <dgoulet> ah "nickm suggested either mid sept or mid oct"
17:43:17 <dgoulet> ok
17:43:20 <isabela> ye
17:43:21 <isabela> yeah
17:43:27 <isabela> he replied in the email list
17:43:34 <dgoulet> good
17:44:37 <isabela> ok, 13min till tor browser meeting
17:44:47 <isabela> any other topics?
17:46:37 <asn> im ok.
17:46:40 <asn> looking forward to the dev meeting
17:47:05 <dgoulet> o/
17:47:18 <isabela> me too!
17:47:20 <isabela> alright folks
17:47:37 <isabela> #endmeeting