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#tor-dev: revised revised prop#259: more talking about guards.
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Meeting started by nickm at 13:59:28 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.debian.net/tor-dev/2016/tor-dev.2016-07-07-13.59.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* LINK: https://gitlab.com/asn/torspec/merge_requests/3/diffs   (nickm,
  14:00:21)
* ACTION: try to think of ways that the "don't add to USED_GUARDS till
  we use it" rule can be manipulated by an attacker  (nickm, 14:22:11)
* LINK:
  https://gitlab.com/asn/torspec/merge_requests/3/diffs#note_12742458
  (asn, 14:30:47)
* ACTION: either convince myself that the retry logic does good things
  for HS clients/services when all primary, or change it so it does.
  (nickm, 14:39:19)
* ACTION: nickm can primaryness be a continuum?  (nickm, 14:44:25)
* LINK: https://github.com/twstrike/tor_guardsim/tree/develop
  (rjunior, 15:07:03)
* LINK: https://pad.riseup.net/p/draft-guard-steps   (nickm, 15:12:58)

Meeting ended at 15:34:59 UTC.




Action Items
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* try to think of ways that the "don't add to USED_GUARDS till we use
  it" rule can be manipulated by an attacker
* either convince myself that the retry logic does good things for HS
  clients/services when all primary, or change it so it does.
* nickm can primaryness be a continuum?




Action Items, by person
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* nickm
  * nickm can primaryness be a continuum?
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * try to think of ways that the "don't add to USED_GUARDS till we use
    it" rule can be manipulated by an attacker
  * either convince myself that the retry logic does good things for HS
    clients/services when all primary, or change it so it does.




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