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13:30:29 <nickm> hello happy campers
13:30:33 <Yawning> hi
13:30:36 <athena> hi
13:30:41 <Yawning> not sure about happy, but I'm here
13:30:54 <nickm> I'm in my home office, watching little dinosaurs hop around collecting dried grass in their beaks
13:31:01 <Yawning> (In a "you're a dumbass" moment, I screwed up my wrist again, by going to punch shit)
13:31:05 <nickm> I think they mean to nest with it
13:31:10 <nickm> Yawning: ow!
13:31:17 <Yawning> (However my instructor said, I am getting better at punching shit, so worth it)
13:31:27 <asn_> howdy
13:31:33 <dgoulet> hi
13:32:27 <nickm> So, another week!  Next week I'm at pets.  This week I've been hunting bugs, merging patches, and trying to get #15055 advanced.
13:32:33 <nickm> there is a lot of code there and I keep getting distracted :p
13:32:55 <nickm> I also need to step back RSN and see if there's anything I committed to do this month that isn't going to get done unless I'm on it right away
13:33:03 * isabela around
13:33:31 <nickm> who's next?
13:33:55 <Yawning> working on ed25519/curve25519, and I need to catch up on e-mail
13:34:00 <Yawning> everything hurts
13:34:07 <Yawning> that's basically it :P
13:34:21 <asn_> hello friends
13:34:22 <athena> i've got the load-testing branch for #4581 in now (see comment on the ticket), and the other half that's actually supposed to be merged should be coming this week with any luck
13:34:25 <teor> DonnchaC: if you create any useful chutney templates or networks, please log them in Trac and we'll merge them in
13:34:30 <nickm> excellent
13:35:53 <nickm> athena: I wasn't clear from your trac message whether the load-testing part is ready for review IYO?
13:36:57 <nickm> also, who's next? :)
13:37:02 <teor> I have been focused on tor-related admin and background HS reading
13:37:13 <teor> and I'm also supposed to be doing a short course that finishes in less than a week, so that will keep me busy
13:37:23 <teor> done
13:38:07 <athena> it's has a couple TODOs left, but i'm not sure how much review is necessary since it isn't quite intended for merge; i just put it up there for the sakeof checkpointing and documenting the testing procedure for this
13:38:17 <nickm> ok
13:38:39 <asn_> hyello
13:38:45 <asn_> i did some reviews on HS related stuff #4862
13:38:48 <nickm> hihi!
13:38:48 <asn_> did some SponsorR stuff
13:38:51 <asn_> did some SoP stuff
13:39:08 <asn_> currently doing more SponsorR stuff and preparing for PETS!
13:39:11 <asn_> that's that!
13:39:23 <nickm> how close is #4862 approaching to mergeability?  I keep reading the comments, but I haven't seen anybody sign off and say "looks done; let's merge it!" yet.  Is that about right?
13:39:38 <asn_> i think it's very close.
13:39:44 <nickm> great
13:39:55 <asn_> the only thing is that I have not reviewed the latest round of commits, I only tested them.
13:39:58 <nickm> anybody else got something for today?
13:40:05 * dgoulet does
13:40:08 <nickm> woo!
13:40:50 <asn_> btw, I will have time for review this week. so feel free to suggest stuff.
13:41:02 <Yawning> nickm: #16430, 026-backport or no?
13:41:20 <dgoulet> SponsorR stuff, #16389 (which has a review so quite happy! :), #14917 also is on the path of having a patch,
13:41:21 <Yawning> just need to know where to start my branch off
13:41:31 <nickm> Yawning: IMO no backport
13:41:42 <Yawning> I assume tor browser will want this
13:41:45 <Yawning> but ok
13:42:13 <Yawning> they can cherrypick it if they care
13:42:30 <dgoulet> oh! I also have tests coming up for rendcache.c/.h (in the form of a patch ofc :)
13:42:33 * dgoulet done
13:42:36 <asn_> dgoulet: great!
13:42:41 <nickm> asn_, others: I need review on #16400 and #16013.
13:42:55 <asn_> nickm: ack,.]
13:43:05 <dgoulet> added to the list
13:43:08 <asn_> nickm: will try to have them ready before the 28th.
13:43:13 <nickm> anybody else ?
13:44:11 <nickm> ok, let's move on to discussion timez!
13:44:30 <nickm> There's some design stuff we need to get done rsn.  I want our guard algorithms figured out rsn, and there's probably bunches more too...
13:44:53 <nickm> and I'm not exactly hoping we'll have it all figured out at this meeting, but maybe we need to think about how we _do_ want to do stuff like this.
13:45:20 <Guest2746> hey guys .. anyone working on Android or iOS ?
13:45:22 <asn_> nickm: PETS might be a busy but not unreasonable time to pin down the guard stuff even more.
13:45:30 <nickm> asn_: we could try...
13:45:52 <nickm> Guest2746: probably, but we're ikn the middle of a meeting.  Try again in 45 min or so?
13:45:55 <nickm> *in
13:46:14 <nickm> asn_: I wonder if there  are other open design things we need to figure out then too
13:46:22 <nickm> Maybe we should try to get a list like that going into PETS
13:46:28 <Guest2746> sure take your time
13:46:33 <nickm> thanks
13:46:57 * asn_ looks a bit at https://etherpad.mozilla.org/HsR7ubjcUC
13:48:16 <nickm> I wish I could pre-declare a get-together-and-work-on-this-stuff time, but it's never quite sure when we will have the time
13:48:36 <nickm> maybe each one of these should get a rump session talk if the topic doesn't have a preexisting paper or hotpets presentation
13:48:56 <nickm> Maybe we should say "we'll do it after dinner on Xday"
13:49:01 <nickm> not literally X day
13:49:09 <nickm> I'll try to organize something
13:49:15 <asn_> i'll also have it in mind
13:49:20 <asn_> i have a PETS todo list.
13:49:48 <nickm> Another question: Are we doing patch workshop/this meeting next week?  Or the week after?
13:49:53 <nickm> I probably won't be able to make either
13:50:00 <nickm> Will we have enough folks around?
13:50:24 <dgoulet> because of PETS we might want to skip next week meetings entirely?
13:50:51 <nickm> yeah, unless we're going to have a lot of people who aren't going and want to meet up
13:52:33 <nickm> ok, maybe we just announce that it's not happening unless enough people show up, but if people want to show up they should feel free
13:52:47 <nickm> and for the week after, when I'm on vacation, I think everybody should just go on without me :)
13:53:08 <nickm> any other topics to talk about at today's meeting?
13:53:47 <dgoulet> nickm: when are you leaving for PETS? that is what's the deadline for bugging you for patches ? :)
13:53:58 <nickm> I'm getting on a train early monday morning
13:54:15 <nickm> I think I'm going to be having internet on the train.  But I might decide to catch up on sleep instead of working :)
13:54:25 <dgoulet> good thinking
13:54:28 <dgoulet> ok noted thanks
13:54:34 <nickm> I'm going to try to _not_ do a lot of work while at PETS: I'm experimenting with different ways to not burn out while I travel :)
13:54:43 <nickm> any other topics?  Going once......
13:54:51 <Yawning> can I get review on this?
13:55:09 <Yawning> sec lemmie push etc
13:55:10 <nickm> Yawning: on which?
13:55:11 <nickm> ok
13:55:57 <Yawning> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/16430#comment:5
13:56:04 <nickm> Right, I think we're out of meeting again.  Thanks, all!
13:56:24 <nickm> I'm going to be doing another vegas-plan email soon to y'all, as part of trying to ramp up the "[Tor] Network Team" team
13:56:26 <Yawning> yes, people who violate 30 year old standards get named/shamed in comments
13:56:32 <nickm> not sure what to do with it, but hey.
13:56:46 <teor> DonnchaC: #16438 for chutney has been reviewed and is ready for merge, thanks for the patch
13:56:56 <nickm> Yawning: we've done such things before: 'git grep crackhouse'
13:57:24 <Yawning> should be a straight forward merge
13:57:29 <nickm> #endmeeting