17:00:37 #startmeeting 17:00:37 Meeting started Mon Aug 24 17:00:37 2015 UTC. The chair is hellais. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:37 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:40 here we go 17:00:47 so who is here? 17:01:23 * willscott waves 17:01:28 here 17:01:41 hey 17:01:51 anadahz: can you restate your presence for the happiness of MeetBot 17:01:52 * sbs is here 17:01:57 * anadahz is here 17:02:04 most excellent! 17:02:11 so you know the drill, report backs 17:02:18 who wants to start? 17:02:30 I'll go 17:02:39 short and sweet: 17:03:01 I've submitted pull requests for network meter features 17:03:14 specifically now argument parsing should be complete 17:03:19 sorry here too. 17:03:23 and so should be installing/uninstalling plugins 17:03:57 sbs just came back from vacation, he'll be going though the code sometime soon 17:04:17 next steps to implement would be managing running instances and the home page 17:04:36 EOF 17:05:51 as regards me 17:06:03 as poly said, I'm just back from vacation 17:06:13 I just wrote some documentation re: measurement-kit 17:06:23 and thought a bit about its APIs 17:06:32 EOF 17:07:23 OK from my side: 17:08:04 I attended and presented a paper at FOCI '15 17:08:52 Into the final steps for producing the RasPi image 17:09:30 I 've stuck at the golang compiler package required for the obfs4proxy PT 17:10:31 I 've created a Travis build script that tests and install the tor packages in different architectures and Debian flavours 17:11:25 with a bit of tweaking (add some env variables) it would be able to test more distributions/architectures 17:12:49 can't find the link atm 17:13:03 almost EOF 17:13:36 next person that wants to report back.. 17:13:46 What I did last week: 17:13:57 * Attended CCC camp and met with a lot of interesting people 17:13:58 * Launched the registration for the ADINA15 hackathon (Hurray!!) 17:13:58 * Meet with jun1 and discussed of hiring Brennan for doing UX work for the OONI API 17:14:00 * Did a OONI gathering IRL at CCC where a bunch of good conversations happenned 17:14:33 EOF 17:14:53 saw several of you at camp. Started trying to understand the pipeline code. 17:14:58 main thing i'm interested in at the moment is figuring out how to build a database of prefixes using anycast. 17:15:09 asking around to see if i can get mlab servers to run at least ooni latency tests to help with that 17:15:51 got a second server for zmap scanning that i'm setting up this week 17:15:59 EOF 17:17:04 excellent, anybody else want to report back? 17:19:26 I guess not 17:19:29 anything you would like to talk about? 17:19:38 questions, comments, doubts, existential questions? 17:19:45 hellais: I have a question about ADINA registration 17:19:57 poly: shoot 17:20:06 will the real names we enter be displayed on the website anywhere? 17:20:21 Travis build process test installing tor tor-geoipdb packages from the official and nighly Tor deb repositories for arm* architectures in Debian wheezy and jessie https://travis-ci.org/TheTorProject/lepidopter/builds/74502642 17:20:23 Hello. I met some people who work on ooni at CCCamp, and will be testing the RasPi image from Ireland shortly. EOM. 17:20:49 will they be shared with any outsiders other than the security at ADINA? 17:21:09 elephant: ah nice, yes I remember you :) 17:21:45 poly: no, the real name will be stored only in the AWS postgres database that currently only I have access to 17:22:03 hellais: thanks then 17:22:04 poly: if that does not fit your threat model, then send me your real name via PGP and put a placeholder name for the registration 17:22:25 poly: or you can have a convinving ID ;) 17:22:46 ;) 17:22:47 poly: actually I would suggest you do this, because I cannot guarantee that I did not commit any error in coding the interface and would not want to expose you by mistake 17:23:07 will do 17:23:24 poly: awesome, but do register on the interface so we can start getting a headcount 17:23:50 hellais: 17:23:51 The eight principal winds (or main winds) are the cardinals and ordinals considered together, that is N, NE, E, SE, S, SW, W, NW. Each principal wind is 45° from its neighbour. The principal winds form the basic eight-wind compass rose. 17:23:55 whoops 17:24:15 hellais: 0x150FE210 is your key? 17:24:28 poly: yes. You can also send it to me via jabber 17:24:59 anadahz: "Travis build process test installing .." etc. was this a suggestion for a topic of discussion or ..? 17:25:47 no it was just the link missing in my report 17:26:39 elephant: anadahz is the person working on the raspberry pi image, so the two of you should talk about testing the raspberry pi 17:26:46 anadahz: gotcha 17:27:24 it seems like landers and I are getting expelled from our current location in not too much time 17:27:40 so let's try to keep this nice and tight 17:28:23 any other aH-Ha-s you would like to share or questions or commments? 17:29:39 hellais: what about the css format of ADINA page? 17:30:04 anadahz: can you be more specific? 17:30:13 hellais: gotcha, thanks. anadahz: I'll reach out to you with anything I find. 17:31:47 hellais: https://github.com/TheTorProject/ooni-web/pull/15 17:33:00 text alignment looks very ugly 17:33:24 ^ https://ooni.torproject.org/event/adina15/ 17:33:40 anadahz: I thought we had already discussed this 17:34:03 the jist of it is that I spoke to the designers and they said that the website is designed for central alignment and if we change it we need to change other stuff too 17:34:28 they made a big list of changes that would need to happen, but there is nobody with enough time (and it's not such a high priority to invest such time in it) to justify doing it 17:34:39 i consider the allignment of the graph of less importance 17:34:45 I think that once we get brennan on board we can perhaps have him give the website some design love too 17:34:50 the text is most valuable 17:34:54 I agree 17:35:07 but the site is designed for center TEXT alignment 17:35:14 if you change that you need to change other stuff too 17:35:31 and to be clear I am not a designer and I trust what the designers of the website tell me 17:35:53 since they told me not to change the alignemnet of the text, after I asked them if I could change it, but suggested instead some alternative fixes I am going to take their word for it 17:36:06 up until the point another designer that I also trust comes along and tells me otherwise 17:36:29 seem reasonable? 17:36:42 ... 17:36:52 i said my point on that 17:37:08 I 'm not a designer as well 17:37:14 let's hope for the best 17:37:47 I can arrange to meet with them when I am back in Rome and implement the fixes they suggest, but I am a bit tight on time so it may not happen 17:38:17 I think the current iteration of the adina page passes the smell test, so it should be good enough 17:38:19 * hellais thinks 17:39:49 the most disturbing things with the central alignment are the bullet list and the numbered list 17:40:02 are there designers suggestions to address those? 17:40:24 (especially the bullet list, IMHO) 17:40:34 sbs: I forwarded you the suggestions 17:40:41 they are written in Italian 17:40:59 unfortunately we have to abbandon this location NOW 17:41:22 so I will just state what are going to be the next steps for me and we shall speak again when I will be in a more stable location 17:41:40 I plan to work on defining the scope of work to be carried out by Brennan related to the OONI API 17:41:59 hellais: ah, that's true, I'll see if I can do something, then 17:42:01 based on that I will pick up development of the next gen data pipeline and the open data API 17:42:10 sbs: excellent 17:42:28 if you have some next steps can you all write them together NOW 17:42:35 so we have them logged and I can close the meeting 17:42:47 (sorry for being in a hurry) 17:53:20 so I guess the meeting is over? 17:53:45 hellais and landers are most probably out already 17:55:47 #endmeeting 17:55:59 i guess only hellais can do that? 17:56:37 #endmeeting 17:56:50 willscott: it seems so 17:59:25 longest meeting in OONI history :) 18:07:07 #endmeeting