18:28:25 #startmeeting 18:28:25 Meeting started Wed Oct 17 18:28:25 2018 UTC. The chair is sumpfralle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:28:25 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:28:34 Welcome to the weekly IRC meeting! 18:28:40 Who is around? 18:28:57 o? 18:29:02 that actually fits 18:29:06 :) 18:29:16 * dipohl is here 18:29:25 cool - welcome back! 18:29:36 so let us start 18:29:42 #topic Review of last week 18:30:08 I was still a bit out of time, thus there was just a bit of documentation and communication. 18:30:24 What happened in your world? 18:31:49 we have a fix for the autopkgtest regression in sid 18:31:50 thanks to new epel packages I am rolling out new munin-node versions :-) 18:32:09 h01ger: yeah! 18:32:22 dipohl: finally they are there and hopefully in a nice shape, yes. 18:33:14 Do you have other topics? 18:33:45 hi 18:33:55 welcome! 18:34:21 do you have something to share about last week? 18:34:34 me? no. fixed dmm0 18:35:09 ok - so are there other topics? 18:35:59 (sadly my distraction period was extended to this friday - thus I have nothing to plan or share) 18:36:57 actually the deb does not pikup the config 18:37:24 for httpd. but i think it is upstream 18:37:29 There was something about "load_config" that I opened in an issue or pull request. 18:37:33 yes, upstream, I think 18:37:44 I patched this for the last Debian packaging. 18:40:14 It was this one: https://github.com/munin-monitoring/munin/pull/995 (merged) 18:40:52 But I think, this fix was not final and only for one specific location. 18:41:54 can we put up some systemd crontab replacement? 18:42:13 do you mean timers? 18:42:47 At least for the Debian packaging I would want to deliver (at least as a fallback) cron jobs - otherwise support for non-linux systems is lost. 18:42:47 yup 18:43:04 fallback is good 18:45:01 h01ger and me recently discussed about the pleasure to get rid of some packaging patches with a new upstream release. Do you have things on the list, that you would like to finish before another beta? 18:45:46 * h01ger noted that the debian-experimental branch doesnt have the autopkgtest the debian branch has 18:45:49 noticed 18:46:30 I will take care for this next week. 18:46:44 maybe just in time with another release? :) 18:48:58 Is there a written roadmap for Munin 3.0? 18:49:35 dipohl: in /topic 18:50:44 h01ger: you mean this? "limits, SQL awareness, upgrades from 2.0, guide" 18:51:08 that is as written as it gets ;) 18:51:38 More precisely: "limits use SQL data" and "description of upgrade from 2.0 into the guide" 18:51:52 At least this is my understanding. 18:52:32 yep 18:52:52 The "limits" topic is a bit broader, since we are carrying (if my understanding is correct) since around ten years a file called "LimitsOld.pm" - which feels really a bit hard to maintain and probably needs a bigger overhaul. 18:54:11 i am rewrtiing most of the limit anyway 18:54:33 dipohl: yes. i also ment it ironically, as <@TheSnide> that is as written as it gets ;) 18:55:55 I like to have defined "tasks" and "milestones", is there something like this also in github? 18:57:28 dipohl: not really. 18:57:39 Something like this is nice to have, but I am not sure, it is necessary (given our limited amount of development resources). 18:57:40 the "issues" are not the same as "development tasks" if I see it right.. or is it meant to use it this way by adding an appropriate tag? 18:58:51 They are tagged based on their source (master and stable-2.0). But we did not structure them in other ways. If someone is in the mood for that: go ahead! 19:00:26 dipohl: i agree that management is nice. but one needs something to manage first 19:03:39 but yeah, a task list might be useful 19:04:00 * TheSnide always avoided one, no to despair ;) 19:05:04 There is no reason for despair - progress is there and brings happiness! 19:05:46 TheSnide: I would say to define milestones will bring joy if the are reached :-) 19:05:51 yep 19:06:17 i was just too lazy :-) 19:07:04 I don't want to make pressure. I am very happy that development is going on again! :-) 19:07:29 And there is no shame to go for the fun parts first, if time is limited. 19:07:32 good! 19:08:01 I was only thinking about, how can I follow the progress without reading all the IRC chat protocols ;) 19:10:53 dipohl: well.. not much to follow :( 19:11:11 You reworked the tests! 19:11:17 You removed cruft! 19:11:21 What could be better? 19:12:05 tests on contrib? 19:13:07 sadly failing, still - to be fixed next week, I guess 19:14:46 Should we close the official part of the meeting and continue discussion afterwards? 19:16:36 * dipohl for me ok 19:19:08 #endmeeting