17:02:24 #startmeeting 17:02:24 Meeting started Tue Sep 10 17:02:24 2013 UTC. The chair is TheSnide. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:02:24 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:02:51 say hi if you're here :) 17:03:01 * helmut hides 17:03:04 hi. i was pinged. 17:04:02 #topic welcome 17:04:41 well, it's the first of lightning meetings 17:05:25 #info meetings will happen each tues, at 1900 CET for about 15 min. 17:05:58 #info a short length is to be able to stay focused, and not too intrusive. 17:06:40 #info objective is to have a timed rally point, where more ppl than usual are here... 17:07:11 #info ... and to convey some infos from behind the scene 17:07:42 #topic status of 2.2 17:08:30 #info 2.2 deadline is nearing, yet progress on key features are not progressing. 17:09:06 #info The UI part is stalled, and the SQL part is slowly advancing. 17:09:27 what is the issues with sql? 17:09:46 it is mostly because i dont have as much time as initially planned. 17:10:27 is there a feature branch for sql work? 17:10:38 since my time is heavily discontinuous, i have trouble following a feature rich branch 17:11:10 #action push the local sql branch on github 17:11:17 TheSnide++ 17:11:34 #action TheSnide will push the local sql branch on github 17:12:10 work didnt advance much, it's mostly lab research 17:12:22 but, well.. 17:12:29 fine. just get what is done out to others to review and continue 17:13:16 #info TheSnide started rewriting parts of the Guide 17:13:38 since it's much easier on discrete timesets 17:14:05 Url will follow the meetinjg 17:15:14 #info sql is still aimed for 2.2, dev finished mid oct. 17:15:27 #info new UI will wait for 2.4 17:16:14 #agreed 2.2.0 should get released in oct, at all costs. 17:16:47 #topic munin guide 17:17:36 #info i copied some of pgsql docs, it looks quite nice. expected for 2.2. 17:18:09 #action TheSnide will push feat branch to github 17:18:22 #topic next meeting 17:19:29 #agreed will be 17 sept at 1900 17:19:44 #topic questions 17:19:52 any questions ? 17:20:06 I am not quite up to date on the roadmap. what are the main expected changes for 2.2? 17:20:29 helmut: ui + sql 17:20:37 no. you postponed ui to 2.4 17:20:48 well, will be guide + sql now 17:20:55 ok. 17:21:04 I suggest either of the following two options: 17:21:24 i prefer to deliver something that to wait for another 2 years 17:21:26 1) have just the guide as release goal for 2.2, postpone sql and release strictly on time. 17:21:27 :) 17:21:39 2) have sql as a hard feature requirement, postpone release if necessary. 17:21:53 yeah, that was my plan C. 17:21:56 :) 17:22:13 which was planc? 17:22:25 no mind 17:22:53 and for sql it doesn't matter if you write portable sql. if it works with sqlite, you have 90% of the use cases. 17:22:54 #action TheSnide will focus on guide for 2.2 17:23:32 I saw sqlite scaling to 3GB databases and beyond, can tune them now. ;-) 17:23:40 hehe 17:23:46 ok, anything else ? 17:24:03 ping me once you pushed the sql branch 17:24:40 #agreed sql doesnt need to be portable for 1st releases 17:24:49 helmut: will do 17:25:06 thx all 17:25:09 #endmeeting