19:00:32 #startmeeting 19:00:32 Meeting started Wed Apr 22 19:00:32 2020 UTC. The chair is elbrus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:32 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:00:45 #topic Admin 19:00:55 #info Previous minutes: http://meetbot.debian.net/debian-release/2020/debian-release.2020-02-26-19.02.html 19:01:06 #info elbrus had two actions for more release members; both done 19:01:16 #info ginggs had action for a patch to britney 19:01:25 * elbrus didn't see it materialize 19:01:29 ;) 19:01:47 #info elbrus had an action for architecture release 19:01:52 not done yet 19:02:00 #topic Welcome to Sebastinas and noahm 19:02:12 hi! 19:02:12 Sebastinas, noahm, welcome to the team 19:02:37 thank you 19:02:46 are you getting up to speed already? 19:03:03 * elbrus noticed transition bugs being acked by Sebastinas already 19:03:56 this is an open invitation to you for help request to get started 19:04:19 Yes, I got some small transitions done (libdvdread for example), some others are getting ready to migrate (poco) 19:04:33 pochu helped me to set up britney tests runs 19:04:47 awesome 19:05:15 I haven't been particularly active yet. Hope to change that real soon now... 19:05:33 you have been watching the pu bugs already? 19:05:41 yep 19:05:51 good 19:06:01 anything else for now? 19:06:38 #topic Transitions 19:07:07 any news on that front worth discussing? 19:07:37 * elbrus noticed ruby2.5-rm is nearly down, is anybody finishing that up? 19:07:52 done* 19:08:23 i'm not sure what needs to be done with src:linux in the python3.7-rm tracker 19:09:18 Filed some bugs for builds failures related to ruby2.5-rm and python3.7-rm 19:09:24 we had multiple new linux versions, is it hardcoded somewhere? 19:09:33 great 19:11:04 ginggs: I guess no clues here 19:11:19 anybody has any clue why ldc isn't finishing? 19:11:38 * elbrus tried several combinations of hints, but didn't seem to strike the right corde 19:11:58 my last hint is in my history if anybody wants to look 19:12:53 if no further comments, shall we move on? 19:13:25 #topic rc_policy status 19:13:29 https://release.debian.org/bullseye/rc_policy.txt 19:13:45 I reviewed that page a while ago 19:14:01 I wondered if we can remove the disclaimer at the top 19:14:19 or if we want more review 19:14:58 * elbrus hopes the policy editors will start maintaining a summary which we can reference with only our deltas 19:15:22 What's the status of autopkgtests regressions on arm64? 19:15:28 Are the also considered rc? 19:15:34 that's the next topic ;) 19:15:36 The policy only mentions amd64 19:16:18 we can discuss that now 19:16:34 I think we're about ready to do that 19:16:43 there's minor issues 19:17:13 like britney scheduling and blocking in some case where that's not appropriate 19:17:32 but in my opinion thats not RC in the package obviously 19:18:28 Sebastinas: we added amd64 explicitely when we enable arm64 to avoid those tests being considered RC in case of issues 19:18:39 but I think we can add it now 19:19:12 objections? 19:20:09 no 19:20:50 #agreed arm64 autopkgtest failures are now also considered RC 19:21:08 shall I remove the disclaimer at the head of rc_policy? 19:21:40 I'll review rc_policy, but you should remove the disclaimer anyway. 19:21:49 Doubt I will have a lot of feedback on it. 19:22:06 noahm: great 19:22:18 you know where the source lives? 19:22:35 https://salsa.debian.org/release-team/release.debian.org/ 19:22:57 I know now. ;) 19:23:20 #action elbrus removes the copy disclaimer of the rc_policy 19:23:45 #action noahm review rc_policy 19:23:48 ;) 19:24:08 #topic state of out-of-sync issues 19:24:46 in our bits from February we declared out-of-sync packages as being RC buggy in testing 19:24:56 I've been filing quite some bugs 19:25:09 lots of fixes in the mean time 19:25:27 currently 32 out-of-sync packages with bugs 19:25:32 https://udd.debian.org/dev/bugs.cgi?release=bullseye&merged=ign&fnewerval=7&flastmodval=7&fusertag=only&fusertagtag=out-of-sync&fusertaguser=release.debian.org%40packages.debian.org&rc=1&ckeypackage=1&clastupload=1&cautormtime=1&sortby=lastupload_s&sorto=asc&format=html#results 19:25:40 (load time is long) 19:25:56 problem of course is going to be key packages 19:26:04 as those aren't going to be removed 19:26:51 any ideas at this moment how to handle those, or should we just keep them as regular RC bugs? 19:29:07 just for you're info, I NMU arch:all packages that are *only* blocked on the buildd issue 19:29:24 and binNMU arch: blocks 19:29:31 before filing bugs 19:29:43 well, src:check could just be revert the previous version 19:30:36 mapreri: good idea 19:30:49 * elbrus will check the others for a similar solution 19:30:58 src:libhibernate-validator-java I'd ping ebourg on IRC and otherwise nag in #-java, that ought to not be too exceptional 19:31:14 I can deal with libsoxr 19:31:19 src:libsoxr is .. cbmuser could you please look at that… 19:31:19 That also needs to be reverted 19:31:39 lobsoxr could be reverted, but it would be great if cbmuser or somebody could debug that 19:32:19 Don't care much for ports "fixes" if it breaks release arches, to be honest. 19:32:41 ack 19:32:43 elbrus: was src:pillow hold back by autopkgtest regression? 19:33:05 it's not clear to me looking quickly now 19:33:21 I'm not sure; I don't think so 19:33:29 uninstallability I think 19:33:56 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=955776 19:33:59 it's "not considered", so installability is not yet counted 19:34:04 there's info in the "blocks" section 19:34:25 ok, that's more convuluted 19:34:44 but overall, that one looks like the only "real" key package having real troubles, the other should be doable in due time 19:35:50 any help welcome :) 19:36:09 (thanks mapreri for jumping in) 19:36:25 # AOB 19:36:33 #topic AOB 19:37:01 mh ok, I see src:pillow is taken care by those blocks, perhaps that's enough given the autorm timer 19:37:17 oh, I forgot emacs. that's.. I don't care :P 19:37:27 just a note: I removed quite a bit of rust recently to fix the out-of-sync mess in that ecosystem 19:37:42 (seriously, that's a FTBFS, I can't help with that) 19:37:58 that seems to have been well received in the rust team (as much could migrate after the removal) 19:38:08 emacs looks like it has a fix upstream. just needs an upload... 19:38:17 I had some discussions with members of the rust team 19:38:20 noahm: then, everything's good 19:38:24 I hope things will improve 19:39:18 anybody anything else? 19:39:52 * elbrus shuts up for some minutes to give people time to finish :) 19:42:34 shall we close? 19:42:50 #topic Next meeting 19:43:01 #info Next meeting is 27th May at 19:00 UTC (import into your calendar via https://release.debian.org/release-calendar.ics) 19:43:15 thanks everybody 19:43:20 #endmeeting