#debian-release: Architecture Qualification

Meeting summary

1. amd64/i386 (jmw, 19:02:45)
   1. AGREED: amd64/i386 stay (jmw, 19:03:38)
   
   
2. hurd-i386 (jmw, 19:04:14)
   1. https://release.debian.org/jessie/arch_qualify.html is the arch page I'm working from, by the way (jmw, 19:05:41)
   2. https://buildd.debian.org/status/logs.php?pkg=meanwhile that's a small package (aba, 19:10:22)
   3. the hurd situation is improved, but not enough (jmw, 19:17:17)
   4. AGREED: hurd-i386 will not be a release architecture (jmw, 19:17:26)
   
   
3. sparc (jmw, 19:17:33)
   1. AGREED: sparc will not be a release architecture (jmw, 19:17:56)
   
   
4. armel/armhf (jmw, 19:18:14)
   1. DSA have multiple concerns (jmw, 19:19:19)
   2. ancina is the only armel machine remote from the others, and due to be decommissioned (jmw, 19:21:37)
   3. there are two armhf machines remote from the others, both at ynic (jmw, 19:22:58)
   4. DSA did not see an improvement in the situation during the last cycle (jmw, 19:29:58)
   5. AGREED: armel/armhf hardware situation is not a blocker at this stage, but the situation needs to improve before release (jmw, 19:30:43)
   6. https://release.debian.org/jessie/arch_qualify.html says so (aba, 19:31:11)
   7. ACTION: DSA liaise with ARM about hardware and remote management, best-effort (jmw, 19:32:10)
   
   
5. kfreebsd-amd64/kfreebsd-i386 (jmw, 19:33:10)
   1. only one porter appears to be active (jmw, 19:34:19)
   2. RC bugs do not appear to be found quickly nor fixed in a suitable timeframe (jmw, 19:34:41)
   3. there appear to be significant unresolved upgrade problems (jmw, 19:38:16)
   4. AGREED: kfreebsd-amd64/kfreebsd-i386 will not be release architectures (jmw, 19:42:55)
   
   
6. mips/mipsel (jmw, 19:43:22)
   1. DSA has concerns, but they should be alleviated soon with a new datacentre and hardware (jmw, 19:45:43)
   2. AGREED: mips/mipsel will be release architectures (jmw, 19:50:32)
   
   
7. powerpc (jmw, 19:50:40)
   1. AGREED: powerpc will be a release architecture (jmw, 19:51:45)
   
   
8. s390x (jmw, 19:51:54)
   1. DSA have concerns about a single source of hardware, sponsored, and it doesn't appear to be improving (jmw, 19:54:14)
   2. we do have redundant locations. DSA's concern is only mild (jmw, 19:56:15)
   3. AGREED: s390x will be a release architecture (jmw, 19:57:14)
   
   
9. arm64 (jmw, 19:58:12)
   1. arm64 is a new port (jmw, 19:58:16)
   2. DSA have multiple concerns; hardware availability, management of existing hosts, no geographic redundancy (jmw, 19:59:57)
   3. the port is not yet bootstrapped into sid (jmw, 20:05:47)
   4. ACTION: aba to try a testing bootstrap of arm64 and ppc64el (jmw, 20:11:49)
   5. AGREED: arm64 is a release architecture in principle, providing a testing bootstrap is successful and DSA's hardware concerns can be alleviated. if there are significant problems, the architecture may be dropped before release (jmw, 20:14:57)
   
   
10. ppc64el (jmw, 20:15:05)
    1. mild DSA concern about hardware, not a blocker (jmw, 20:15:56)
    2. DSA concerns about hardware location are expected to be resolved imminently (jmw, 20:17:34)
    3. AGREED: ppc64el is a release architecture in principle, providing a testing bootstrap is successful and DSA's hardware concerns can be alleviated. if there are significant problems, the architecture may be dropped before release (jmw, 20:20:21)

Action items

1. DSA liaise with ARM about hardware and remote management, best-effort
2. aba to try a testing bootstrap of arm64 and ppc64el

Action items, by person

1. aba
   1. aba to try a testing bootstrap of arm64 and ppc64el

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