18:14:54 #startmeeting 18:14:54 Meeting started Wed Apr 26 18:14:54 2017 UTC. The chair is h01ger. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:14:54 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:15:13 #topic say hi / agenda planning 18:15:38 the reoocuring agenda is 18:15:48 * short intro, why are we here (aka: say hi) 18:15:48 * jenkins.d.n status 18:15:48 * jenkins.d.o migration next steps (see below for details) 18:15:48 * jenkins sprint in 2017? 18:15:49 * AOB 18:15:49 * thanks to profitbricks for hosting 18:16:21 hi 18:17:24 I'm here because I like meetings and maybe I can be useful to qa team :) 18:17:32 hi tnnn :) 18:18:07 ...and I'm afraid that's all I can report for now ;> 18:18:14 * h01ger is here to form a team to keep jenkins running in future 18:18:49 #topic jenkins.d.n status 18:19:42 hopefully much better now that we moved 120 out of 162 constantly running reproducible builds jobs away from jenkins (the service) to being started by reproducible_build_service.sh started by systemd 18:20:11 the UI feels much more responsive to me, login is faster, triggered builds are immediatly run again 18:21:15 o/ (sorry I am a bit late) 18:21:19 I also noticed it is a tad more responsive, fwiw! :) 18:21:29 those remaining 42 jobs (so that 120 out of 162 become 162 out of 162) will be moved soon 18:21:38 hey mapreri 18:21:51 Yup, seems nice h01ger - thanks for working on that 18:22:39 unrelatedy i made the chroot-installation test jobs complain about transitional packages in sid now,but made it ignore some (to get better results for edu tests), which i will reenable once buster development has begun 18:22:54 plus i added chroot-installation tests for the Debian Parl blends 18:24:01 anything else about jenkins.d.n? 18:26:23 #topic status jenkins.d.org migration 18:26:30 "nothing new", afaik 18:28:16 I keep updating the plugins every so often, but yeah, nothing's happening right now 18:28:49 ...I guess that in this case no news is (rather) good news 18:28:57 I should try to set some hard deadline to do something myself, perhaps. 18:29:01 tnnn: not really "good", no. 18:29:43 it's getting a bit more "urgency" in the back of my mind as i would like to run a lot more chroot-installationtests (maybe even on i386 and arm*) and scaling them to a multinode setup would be needed for that (and then if i really touch them again, i can also migrate them while at it) 18:32:32 oh, /me has a simple unix question: pmap $pid_of_a_bash_process tells me bash is using 23mb while dash uses 4mb… considering "ps fax | grep -c bash" results in 600 bash processes, i'm considering at least moving _worker.sh to dash… 18:32:54 mapreri: yeah, you are right. I'm in damage control mode atm which means that no breakeages is good news to me. 18:33:03 tnnn: heh 18:33:05 or is that not worth bothering on a 64gb ram machine? 18:33:30 23 MB vs 4 MB… are you considering the same script? 18:33:56 how much of those 23mb are shared among bash instances? 18:35:48 thats measured by starting bash in an xterm, then starting dash from that bash and then running pmap on those idling processes 18:35:58 danielsh: thats exactly my question… 18:37:00 anyhow… next topic, we dont need to finish this discussion in this in the meeting… 18:37:26 #info & see the TODO in git for a more detailed status 18:37:33 #topic jenkins sprint in 2017 18:37:59 october? *blink* 18:38:06 https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleBuilds/HamburgHackathon2017 - not exactly a jenkins sprint but you are much invited anyway to come around and hack on jenkins ;) 18:38:59 03Holger Levsen 05master c8042a4 06jenkins.debian.net 10TODO add todays IRC meeting and next months * 14https://deb.li/ix4t7 18:38:59 03Holger Levsen 05master 78a73e1 06jenkins.debian.net 10TODO suggest october for the jenkins sprint * 14https://deb.li/4Lcl 18:39:01 I suppose that if I were to organize something, that something might even happen. 18:39:07 mapreri: /me likes 18:39:12 I won't be able to make it to Hamburg. Still, I'd be happy to attend. 18:39:13 *very much* 18:39:34 mapreri: october in italy is also much better than hamburg in october 18:39:36 to attend something if that something will get organised ;) 18:39:59 h01ger: that's surely true 18:40:09 #topic Any Other Business 18:40:29 (not that i want to stop discussing sprint plans…!) 18:40:31 Just about that munin plugin 18:40:39 which? 18:40:46 jstat, i suppose 18:40:50 https://jenkins.debian.net/munin/debian.net/jenkins.debian.net/jenkins_jstats.html 18:41:03 oh, yeah - sorry, thats what I meant :) 18:41:26 jstat - it's configured to show garbage collector stats 18:42:10 to me, it looks that jvm gc is doing its job rather well 18:42:11 we should switch that to the upstream java plugin from munin contrib 18:42:32 there was a jvm restart on 21 18:42:37 but after i wrote it i was to annoyed having basically rewritten existing code that i didnt bother… 18:43:02 "annoyed" is a bit strong… 18:43:50 h01ger: Can you give me a link to it? 18:44:41 While showing gc stats is nice, we could probably configure it to show a few different things as well 18:45:04 tnnn: https://github.com/munin-monitoring/contrib/tree/master/plugins/jvm 18:45:48 and jenkins.d.n.git/hosts/jenkins/etc/munin/plugins/jenkins_jstats 18:46:22 and then this jenkins_jstats plugin needs to be removed from out repo and the jvm one added… patches for that much welcome 18:46:42 (should be easy and thus good for getting more familar with the repo) 18:46:58 that munin contrib one mentions sun java 5 in few places :) 18:47:19 so we're confident that logparser was the main leaker now? 18:47:42 So we should check first if it's really better that the one you wrote 18:48:09 helmut: i guess thats the case 18:48:23 tnnn: when i checked they were pretty similar 18:48:33 I belive I can try doing that in the upcoming week (few holidays here in Poland) 18:48:42 mhm, ok 18:49:52 helmut: empirically decided, anyway 18:49:54 #info next jenkins/qa meeting on May 25th at 18utc (=4th wednesday of the month) 18:50:02 we haven't seen those anymore since then, so.… 18:50:22 thank you all for contributing to Debian/jenkins/QA! 18:50:26 #endmeeting