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#debian-perl: Perl 5.20 transition
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Meeting started by gregoa at 17:57:53 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.debian.net/debian-perl/2014/debian-perl.2014-07-28-17.57.log.html
.



Meeting summary
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* useful links  (gregoa, 17:58:12)
  * LINK:
    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=perl-5.20-transition;users=debian-perl@lists.debian.org
    bugs tagged perl-5.20.transition  (gregoa, 17:58:18)
  * LINK: https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/perl5.20.html
    transition page  (gregoa, 17:58:23)
  * LINK: https://lists.debian.org/debian-perl/2014/07/msg00046.html
    proposed agenda  (gregoa, 17:58:26)
  * LINK: http://meetbot.debian.net/debian-perl/2014/ meetings logs
    (gregoa, 17:58:48)

* Intro and welcome  (gregoa, 17:58:52)

* review FTBFS and other mass-testing bugs  (gregoa, 18:02:12)
  * uploading 5.20 to sid would introduce 45 new RC bugs  (gregoa,
    18:03:33)
  * Of the 45 RC critical bugs, 37 have patches, and 2 are pending
    (hlieberman, 18:04:31)
  * AGREED: swig bugs: we NMU with the patched generated files if there
    is no maintainer reaction  (gregoa, 18:08:30)
  * two unfixed bugs are "Perl 5.20: alternative dependencies"  (Dom,
    18:15:56)
  * ACTION: ansgar to look into the swig bugs (trying to regenerate
    stuff during build)  (gregoa, 18:20:57)
  * ACTION: ntyni looks at embperl  (gregoa, 18:23:04)
  * ACTION: fsfs hopefully feels pinged as well for embperl :)  (gregoa,
    18:23:17)
  * one of the debhelper patches is applied in git, not the other
    (gregoa, 18:24:36)
  * #751684 in debhelper should probably be wishlist, and only has a
    minor effect if unfixed  (Dom, 18:26:16)
  * #751684  (gregoa, 18:26:40)
  * ... is the one fixed in git  (gregoa, 18:26:50)
  * it would be nice to have #750021 fixed before the transition
    (gregoa, 18:31:03)
  * ACTION: Dom to ping #750021  (gregoa, 18:32:34)

* review bugs/work needed on perl package  (gregoa, 18:33:15)
  * bug pinging covers the debian-policy bugs as well  (gregoa,
    18:34:14)
  * check if something from 5.18 needs to be merged into 5.20  (gregoa,
    18:36:26)
  * s390x libc reversion and perl 5.20 transition should not be
    entangled  (Dom, 18:46:09)
  * ACTION: ntyni and Dom to review Depends/Recommends one last time
    with all their eyes  (gregoa, 18:50:12)
  * ACTION: Dom to review the build logs again  (gregoa, 18:51:09)
  * can also be improved after transition in case it becomes necessary
    (gregoa, 18:52:14)
  * LINK: https://lists.debian.org/debian-perl/2014/05/msg00137.html ←
    rra and NEWS.Debian and CGI.pm  (gregoa, 18:55:02)
  * AGREED: someone drafts a release notes update for changes to perl
    for jessie  (gregoa, 18:57:19)

* actions/next steps  (gregoa, 18:58:32)
  * ACTION: Dom will complete the rebuild of arch:any packages and send
    a report to debian-perl  (gregoa, 19:00:18)
  * current proposed date for upload to sid: August 12th or thereabouts
    (gregoa, 19:01:14)
  * ACTION: pochu to check with aurel32 about s390x libc  (gregoa,
    19:04:59)
  * entangling perl and libc would be good  (gregoa, 19:05:20)
  * RT fine with either bumping to serious in advance or keeping at
    important and NMUing to DELAYED/5  (gregoa, 19:08:12)
  * ACTION: dam to bump blocking bugs to serious asap  (gregoa,
    19:10:00)
  * AGREED: start NMUing remaining bugs in a couple of days  (gregoa,
    19:11:15)
  * ACTION: dam and gregoa NMU blocking packagaes, others welcome to
    join  (gregoa, 19:12:21)

* 5.20.1 timing  (gregoa, 19:13:41)
  * LINK:
    http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl5.porters/2014/07/msg217597.html
    (Dom, 19:15:49)
  * anything super-urgent can be included from 5.20.1, and anything else
    can wait until the dust settles  (gregoa, 19:16:52)
  * AGREED: plan A: 5.20.0 in august, just in case of delays 5.20.1 if
    it's there  (gregoa, 19:19:00)

* AOB?  (gregoa, 19:19:27)
  * it should be fine to do the revert [s390x libc] right before the
    perl transition  (gregoa, 19:20:45)

Meeting ended at 19:22:14 UTC.




Action Items
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* ansgar to look into the swig bugs (trying to regenerate stuff during
  build)
* ntyni looks at embperl
* fsfs hopefully feels pinged as well for embperl :)
* Dom to ping #750021
* ntyni and Dom to review Depends/Recommends one last time with all
  their eyes
* Dom to review the build logs again
* Dom will complete the rebuild of arch:any packages and send a report
  to debian-perl
* pochu to check with aurel32 about s390x libc
* dam to bump blocking bugs to serious asap
* dam and gregoa NMU blocking packagaes, others welcome to join




Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* ansgar
  * ansgar to look into the swig bugs (trying to regenerate stuff during
    build)
* dam
  * dam to bump blocking bugs to serious asap
  * dam and gregoa NMU blocking packagaes, others welcome to join
* Dom
  * Dom to ping #750021
  * ntyni and Dom to review Depends/Recommends one last time with all
    their eyes
  * Dom to review the build logs again
  * Dom will complete the rebuild of arch:any packages and send a report
    to debian-perl
* gregoa
  * dam and gregoa NMU blocking packagaes, others welcome to join
* ntyni
  * ntyni looks at embperl
  * ntyni and Dom to review Depends/Recommends one last time with all
    their eyes
* pochu
  * pochu to check with aurel32 about s390x libc
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * fsfs hopefully feels pinged as well for embperl :)




People Present (lines said)
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* gregoa (127)
* Dom (111)
* ntyni (74)
* pochu (18)
* mst (17)
* dam (14)
* ansgar (10)
* hlieberman (5)
* MeetBot (4)
* XTaran (2)
* daxim (1)




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