12:58:43 #startmeeting 12:58:43 Meeting started Sat Mar 13 12:58:43 2021 UTC. The chair is nattie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 12:58:43 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 12:58:51 #topic roll call 12:58:57 hiya 12:59:19 * valhalla waves 12:59:22 o/ 12:59:33 * alexm waves 12:59:37 [ https://8x8.vc/debian-localgroups ] (^_^)/~ 12:59:45 quite the turnout today! 13:00:07 #topic following up on previous actions 13:00:17 i guess the big news item is that we have a mailing list now! 13:00:30 * moray claps 13:00:30 kudos to all involved 13:00:40 #info the mailing list exists! go subscribe and use it! 13:00:49 and pabs has added it to the next d-d-a 13:01:06 #info the list will be announced on d-d-a shortly 13:01:46 now i guess we'll have to get the alias set up as well 13:02:03 shall we discuss the details of that now or later or outside the meeting? 13:02:31 what decisions are needed? 13:02:34 I think now 13:02:35 #link https://lists.debian.org/debian-localgroups/ 13:02:57 eventually we need to decide who is on the alias, and confirm its purpose 13:04:28 we seemed to think of some example purposes in previous discussions 13:04:35 though perhaps not a clear definition of when to use it 13:05:04 my suggestion had been that we use the list for general discussion and requests-in-principle, and then the alias for the practical end of the requests, when details need to be exchanged 13:05:17 and then summaries of assistance can be sent to the list later 13:05:27 yes, this seems sensible 13:05:48 anyone else feel particularly about this? 13:06:01 (because it would be nice to do an #agreed on this if possible) 13:07:18 sounds good to me too 13:07:19 +1 to agreed 13:07:37 #agreed the mailing list will be used for general discussion and requests-in-principle 13:07:43 ok 13:07:52 #agreed the alias will be used later in the request process when details are to be exchanged 13:08:11 and on that note, we have our first hopeful :) 13:08:18 #topic setup of Debian Malaysia 13:08:37 enick_950: you're on - tell us about your new group :) 13:09:58 (sorry for putting you on the spot - shall we fill the time with things like links?) 13:10:17 #link https://wiki.debian.org/LocalGroups/Debian-Malaysia 13:11:45 #info the group has many contact possibilities including a telegram group and mailing list 13:12:25 well, it seems enick_950 isn't here just this very minute 13:12:46 enick_950: i hope you're happy to be our guinea pig as we figure out the process of assisting local groups :) 13:13:03 #topic scheduling the next meeting 13:13:34 while the iron is tepid: how to people feel about this meeting time, and how do people feel about alternating between timezones? 13:14:56 It's ok 13:15:00 +1 to the principle of trying to catch people from different timezones 13:15:35 specific meeting time should be plausible from my side, though today I had to rush back across town to make it due to setting out late earlier :) 13:16:09 I think that for this this specific group alternating between timezones is especially important 13:16:30 yeah, 20:30UTC usually works better for me family-wise but I agree that accommodating different timezones is preferrable 13:17:06 so the principle is that we want most of the group to be able to attend at least half the meetings 13:17:16 +1 13:17:30 +2 :) 13:17:31 this time makes it tough on west-coast north america, but seems to be fine for everyone else 13:17:39 and it's a bit early even for east-cost north america 13:18:04 whereas 20:30 UTC is *very* hard for anywhere in Asia 13:18:21 (basically impossible for East Asia, difficult for India) 13:18:24 Even though we couldn't get more people from IST this time, shifting meeting time is a good idea to include all. 13:19:15 maybe 7pm local time for the main local group being discussed. right now, kuala lumpur, malaysia is 21:20 . 13:20:05 join_subline: in principle yes, though i don't think we necessarily focus on a particular group in each meeting, just whichever happen to come up 13:20:46 so the question is: for next month, shall we go back to 20:30 and then back to 13:00 the following month? 13:21:01 (or rather the following 4 weeks? eventually that will get out of sync) 13:21:53 with apologies to the Indian and Malaysian contingents for the ridiculously late/early hour 13:23:27 I don't think we're going to come up with a much better idea, though we might want (as before) to offer the chance for others who can't make these time to suggest something different 13:23:31 I'd say let's try alternate times and see what happens 13:23:48 well, we'll have four weeks 13:24:23 I someone comes up with a new plan they can add it as an item to the agenda and we'll discuss it 13:24:29 shall we schedule provisionally for 20:30 UTC on the 10th of April? 13:24:53 and if that's not possible for them because of the time, we can discuss it on the list 13:24:54 and maybe decide on a deadline by which we confirm that date? 13:25:36 I'd stick with 20:30 UTC on the 10th of Apr 13:25:53 [ https://8x8.vc/debian-localgroups ] +1 13:25:58 and possibly change the pattern for the following meeting, +1 13:26:00 for the next meeting, I mean, of course 13:26:13 +1 13:26:39 and i guess Team India can delegate someone to attend so we don't inconvenience a bunch of people with a 2AM meeting 13:26:49 (who's the biggest night owl on Team India?) 13:27:03 or send a summary of thoughts before the meeting, if they will all be too sleepy :) 13:27:12 moray: *nods* 13:27:23 I'll ask. :) 13:27:24 we even have a list to send it to now! 13:27:24 #agreed the next meeting will be 10 April 2021, 20:30 UTC 13:27:32 for some of you, this may be on the 11th 13:27:49 #topic AOB 13:28:04 Gesundheit? 13:28:17 danke 13:28:37 :) 13:28:40 Ah, "Any Other Business" 13:28:53 anyone got anything else to add before i close? 13:28:56 Just to know, on the wiki Brazil local groups list is updated 13:29:04 phls: thanks 13:29:05 nattie: you raised earlier the question of who will be on the alias. I don't know if that should be discussed more or left hanging 13:29:24 (not necessarily urgent to sort out now) 13:29:32 moray: i think that is a slightly longer discussion, so perhaps discuss on here in the intervening 4 weeks? 13:29:35 yeah 13:29:52 #agreed the staffing of the mail alias will be discussed between meetings 13:30:26 anything else? 13:30:34 nothing from me 13:30:42 nothing here 13:30:48 no 13:31:00 in that case i'd like to thank you all for attending, and see you all formally again in four weeks' time! 13:31:04 #endmeeting