15:50:37 #startmeeting 15:50:37 Meeting started Sat Sep 20 15:50:37 2014 UTC. The chair is shirish. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:50:37 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:50:37 so let's start with the T-shirts ... 15:50:51 shirish: cool :) 15:50:59 so T-shirts ? anyone got designs for that ? 15:51:20 and please address your concerns as well 15:51:22 rharish: you can see the hashtags for anything you want to put as an action point or whatever which needs to be recorded. 15:51:48 also see https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot 15:51:50 cool 15:51:54 my net is volatile 15:52:13 #topic T-shirts ! 15:52:41 i get mesages in batches 15:52:42 wasn't somebody in bangalore supposed to take care of that ? 15:53:07 j4v4m4n_mobile: welcome to the world of mobile IRC internet :) 15:54:09 Do you have any T- shirts or designs for the same? 15:54:13 we should ask people to opt in for t shirt when they register 15:54:52 Pooja: not that I know of or aware about. 15:55:04 design can happen now, but actual printing has to wait till cfp closes 15:55:04 yeah, but if you've got some T-shirts - and I remember the Diaspora ones - we could use the same 15:55:09 We used to have one with the debian swirld logo 15:55:12 else we're running out of time for designs 15:55:15 and printing 15:55:33 I usually get the printing done from Tirupur(near Coimbatore, TN) 15:55:44 it can just have a good resolution debian logo 15:56:12 j4v4m4n_mobile: so we don't have any readymade ones at the moment ? 15:56:14 debian/rules is a common slogan 15:56:38 rharish: you could use the debian logo + the thing done by Mahendra on-site and that could be a unique design. 15:56:50 the site logo ? 15:57:00 yeah, I loved that :) 15:57:11 * bsc will go offline abruptly... internet damn flaky.. 15:57:19 but now that logo is a bad hack by me 15:57:35 some designer should make a new one 15:57:42 wow ! bsc glad to see you :) 15:58:02 well, we don't really have any designers over here to be honest 15:58:03 j4v4m4n_mobile: exactly, a designer could either use that as a base or just clean that up and that would be good to go. 15:58:06 sorry everyone...I have leave :) 15:58:18 gnite Pooja :) o/ 15:58:19 www.debian.org also on back 15:58:27 Pooja: sure, no issues. take care 15:58:49 rharish, :) 15:58:53 bye :) 15:59:03 j4v4m4n_mobile: we could have something clever on hacking or something and perhaps have it in 2-3 languages or more. 15:59:08 bsc: what about the CFP ? 15:59:17 I heard shirish talking about sending mails 15:59:40 rharish: what mails are you talking about ? 15:59:42 if that is the case we could use the official e-mail id for the FOSS club over here 15:59:49 sending papers via mai l 15:59:51 *mail 16:00:04 no ? I remember reading that, was busy so didn't reply 16:00:17 and debian the universal operating system on front 16:00:20 rharish: ah o.k. I was not talking about people sending in actual papers, an abstract is good enough. 16:00:40 rharish, I had created one for speakers as well and pushed it to git.. I think it can be implemented (btw, I haven't done any validations for the paper title and paper description as I thought that is simply useless).. 16:00:57 rharish: and that too if they want, not necessary. We are good enough with a by-line which explains what the talk/workshop is about. 16:01:06 yeah, whatever it maybe, there's an e-mail id that goes by fossatamrita@gmail.com 16:01:11 just to make it look more official 16:01:14 :P 16:01:22 we just need abstract when registering 16:01:38 so bsc 's work is not needed ? :o 16:01:41 we can just copy when they come 16:01:51 rharish, so, IF delegate form works, THEN speaker form also works as I have added only two text boxes.. 16:02:00 rharish, bsc didn't do any such work yaar.. :D 16:02:00 don't have to complicate it so much 16:02:06 haha :P 16:02:10 rharish: great, hopefully you keep looking into fossatamrita@gmail.com and if there comes something that might need my attention, let me know. 16:02:28 rharish, I haven't implemented any "file upload" thingy there as shirish said abstract was enough.. 16:02:41 oh yeah, I can share each and every mail that I get, no issues over there 16:02:42 exactly. 16:02:55 not needed folks 16:03:12 rharish: I don't need every mail, I need only the mails where you feel two heads are better than one. 16:03:19 why do we even want that? 16:03:30 lol, that was a perfunctory statement :P 16:03:53 j4v4m4n_mobile: so how exactly are we selecting speakers ? 16:04:06 btw, as I have said earlier, someone MUST design the registration form.. :D 16:04:07 when you say papers, you mean talk abstracts or something else ? 16:04:25 we go by the abstract summary 16:04:38 and that is submitted via mails right ? 16:04:39 and their contributions 16:04:42 rharish: talk abstract. 16:04:48 rharish: correct. 16:04:55 no 16:04:58 rharish, I think (and this is just a guess about you, I know I am) we both are thinking about "formal" paper presentations where the speaker sends a paper in IEEE format kinda stuff.. 16:05:09 exactly :P 16:05:17 during registration in a text area 16:05:34 * shirish just wants to point out that this has been discussed before. 16:05:40 this is just an invitation to present 16:05:50 cfp is commonly used 16:05:56 * bsc want everyone to try the speaker registration form.. :D 16:05:59 rharish: you need to get that IEEE stuff out of the head for this. 16:06:11 just we are open for talk registrations 16:06:21 and all of them will be via mails ? 16:06:39 when we say cfp is open it means speakers please register 16:06:46 no emails 16:07:03 j4v4m4n_mobile: aaha, so we use the registration forms by bsc ? 16:07:06 just fill the speaker registration form online 16:07:13 yeah, that's better :) 16:07:17 rharish yes 16:07:35 aishwarya: hi :) 16:07:46 hello! :) 16:08:03 rharish: the mails were only for people who want to submit an abstract, not a condition but for people who can't sleep at night without putting up a paper :) 16:08:09 bsc: can you share the link again ? 16:08:10 or in other terms a masochist. 16:08:10 aishwarya hi 16:08:22 aishwarya: hey :) 16:08:32 rharish, the git link? https://gitorious.org/minidebconfindia/metoo/ 16:08:38 yeah thanks :) 16:08:54 bsc: should you also jump the ship to gitlab ? 16:08:59 rharish bsc you should work together get it up on debutsav.in 16:09:15 bsc: show me the way :) 16:09:16 sorry to join in late, can someone brief me very quickly what is going on? 16:09:24 shirish: is the bot even working > 16:09:25 ? 16:09:27 j4v4m4n_mobile, before that, the form should be designed to be merged with the rest of the website... 16:09:42 rharish: the bot works, we have used it in the past. 16:09:56 lol :P 16:10:00 it will record everything and also make a list of things based on the hashes shared. 16:10:14 aishwarya: we are talking about speaker registrations. 16:10:18 bsc just get in the functionality design we will see 16:10:19 bsc: is it necessary, the form could be one off 16:10:25 shirish, I can easily jump to gitlab.. I am just waiting for the work to finish.. (too lazy to jump in the middle.. ;) ) 16:10:25 aishwarya: before we were talking about t-shirts. 16:10:31 yeah, the design shouldn't really matter at this time tbh 16:10:35 bsc: no issues. 16:10:36 shirish: ok. 16:11:10 aishwarya: who was supposed to work on the site from your end ? Darshana or Pooja ? 16:11:11 j4v4m4n_mobile, functionality has been implemented and tested to my knowledge (I am pretty sure I may have missed something, so guys pls test it on ur free time) 16:11:22 so bsc, I *might* find some free time tomorrow, what needs to be done ? 16:11:26 bsc: sure 16:11:28 by when are we expecting the cfp to be up? 16:11:33 bsc: I have been struggling with Apache 2.4 at my end, some bug or some issue. 16:11:53 rharish, "what" can be either design or testing or putting it in the server.. 16:12:21 j4v4m4n_mobile, btw, u send me the password using the old gpg key i think.. I can't open it here.. will mail my current public key.. 16:12:30 I can do the testing :p the design I can get someone to get it done 16:12:39 sorry, got disconnected 16:12:41 my next batch is still in wait 16:12:44 but have shared with Akshat, so maybe in a day or two will try it out there, he is on stable (probably) so we might test it on Apache 2.2 16:12:54 ok 16:12:55 aishwarya: no issues, it happens. 16:13:00 j4v4m4n_mobile: btw, I did send the gpg key last time arround right ? 16:13:45 rharish: it's basically gpg --genkey and answering all the questions it asks. 16:13:56 yeah, I'd done that 16:14:24 incidentally, we have students attending the mozilla's maker party. so we have sent in posters to some of our attendees to publicize 16:14:25 I just sent the content of .asc file after uploading it in the server 16:14:32 but keep your keys safe 16:15:05 send me your key ids 16:15:19 after uploading your keys 16:15:55 j4v4m4n_mobile: I'd done that, can you confirm if you have it ? I'd sent a reply an hour or so ago 16:15:57 umm.. should be gpg2 (is more secure) 16:16:02 j4v4m4n_mobile, http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=balasankarc&fingerprint=on 16:16:06 j4v4m4n_mobile: will do it tonight. 16:16:29 ping 16:16:34 and vim-gpg plugin installation is quite a pain when you're using bundle(spf13) 16:16:40 j4v4m4n_mobile, btw, we should definitely have a keysigning party.. just for the people to know abt keys and all that stuff.. 16:17:00 bsc: yeah, I'm a noob when it comes to that. +1 16:17:10 aishwarya: cool to know about the maker's party 16:17:53 i have not checked mails in last few hours 16:18:02 oh okay, let me know 16:18:09 i will share when I get on my laptop 16:18:17 rharish: I hope there are no idea of having a maker's party in debutsav 16:18:22 j4v4m4n_mobile: coz I don't seem to be getting my commits over at upstream 16:18:45 shirish: I don't even know what a maker's party is, tbh :P :P 16:18:52 rharish: while it's a good idea, getting onto open hardware is a different ball-game altogether. 16:18:55 does git push work? 16:19:24 j4v4m4n_mobile: it all works smooth for me, I get no errors when I push on my terminal screen 16:19:32 but I don't see it being reflected anywhere 16:19:44 not in the website nor in the upstream repo (gitlab) 16:19:51 rharish see your .git/config to see where origin is pointing at 16:20:30 I manually push to origin_gitlab(or whatever, which points to the correct repo link AFAIK) 16:20:39 rharish it won't reflect on site automatically 16:20:40 I can check that by git remote -v 16:21:06 j4v4m4n_mobile: oh, but I don't see my commits being shown in gitlab either 16:21:10 rharish: it's something like this, don't check the link now but later http://makerfaire.com/new-york-2014/ 16:21:15 same was the case with gitorious 16:21:20 someone has to pull that on server 16:21:28 oh how is that done ? 16:21:45 can I do it ? 16:22:04 or set a cron job to do frequent git pulls 16:22:08 rharish: first understand how git works, that will be a later job. 16:22:43 or set commit hooks on gitlab to trigger it remotely uf you want it more efficient 16:22:45 shirish: git add, commit, push is fine with me 16:22:52 :P 16:22:52 rharish: did you read from git 1 to git 5, I know it's a lot of text but you get an understanding how things work. 16:23:07 shirish: obviously nah :P 16:23:39 rharish you can do it after I send you the password 16:23:40 * rharish looks for materials on cron jobs and commit hooks 16:23:47 alright 16:23:51 j4v4m4n_mobile: thanks :) 16:23:54 rharish: if you know that, the only thing you need to learn is how to work with your forked repo. and, merging with upstream, syncing and then issuing merge/pull requests. 16:24:09 i'll be back in 2 minutes 16:24:10 * rharish doesn't have a fork 16:24:14 okay :) 16:25:51 rharish: ah right, so this should be much easier then. 16:26:06 yeah, it should be :D 16:26:21 rharish: I think you just messed up the origin 16:26:38 uh oh :( why do you say that ? 16:26:52 rharish: because of the mail you had written. 16:27:12 well, I very well could have :\ 16:27:13 share the output of $git remote -v on paste.debian.net 16:27:37 rharish: go to the repo. and then run the command. 16:27:57 shirish: I'm not using that same system today 16:28:06 that's another one, today's a laptop 16:28:11 I'll paste it nevertheless 16:28:21 rharish: sure, good. 16:28:53 http://paste.debian.net/122098/ 16:29:08 okay coming back, what's happening with the T-shirts 16:29:13 and where's bsc gone ? 16:29:15 :o 16:29:22 rharish, am here.. :0 16:29:38 haha, bsc are you free tomorrow ? 16:29:38 rharish, why are you using gitlab_origin ?? I see no such thing anywhere 16:29:56 yeah, like I said, that was another system 16:30:00 rharish: exactly. 16:30:00 rharish, at what time? I think I'll be free at evening.. 16:30:13 yeah and this is my laptop 16:30:17 rharish: you have still messed up the origin. 16:30:32 I don't think so :\ 16:30:42 but then I very well could have :P 16:30:52 bsc: yeah evening works fine 16:30:55 4 PM ? 16:30:58 * bsc thinks someone with op should change the channel welcome msg asap.. its still 2013.. :P 16:31:44 rharish: also you have also ssh which has gitorious things, we are no longer doing anything with gitorious 16:31:47 rharish, err.. I am not sure.. The thing is, we have a mozilla webmaker tommorow and I dnt knw when I'll be back.. If you are free at night, that would be better. Else, I would ping you when I reach home.. 16:31:59 rharish: there shouldn't be anything to do with gitorious anymore. 16:32:22 bsc: I think kart_ has those rights . 16:32:41 shirish, haha... it sounds like you _HATE_ gitorious.. :D 16:32:42 hi now on laptop 16:32:44 shirish: I understand, I push by providing the remote "origin" 16:32:56 shirish, having a breakup with gitorious eh?? :P 16:33:00 I was just lazy to remove gitorious 16:33:11 j4v4m4n: cool 16:33:12 rharish: origin is the default remote 16:33:27 bsc: nope, if not using something, why complicate it, remove it, simplify life. 16:33:31 and that points to gitlab 16:33:35 bsc: makes it easier. 16:33:50 alright, I'll remove it :D 16:33:57 shirish, :) 16:33:58 rharish: for push and pulls 16:34:17 j4v4m4n: what else do I require then ? 16:34:19 rharish: so if you don't specify a remote it uses origin 16:34:23 umm... coming in 2 mins. 16:34:36 I usually specify remotes while pushing and pulling 16:34:59 and it should work fine even when I don't since origin is gitlab anyways, na ? 16:35:12 only persons with op is jaldhar and kart_ 16:35:28 rharish, so you also the "git push origin master" guy?? nice.. 16:35:31 copyninja: glad you could join us :) 16:35:38 bsc: oh yeah :P 16:36:17 well I will always be here :รพ 16:36:40 glad you people thought #debian-in can be used for discussion 16:36:40 copyninja, :) 16:37:07 copyninja, #minidebconfin also exists.. right? 16:37:27 copyninja: hi :) 16:37:44 copyninja: we could use #debutsav too if we start spamming here too much :) 16:38:04 bsc: j4v4m4n shirish any news on sponsors or any outside funds ? 16:38:29 aishwarya: still there ? 16:38:39 rharish: yea 16:38:59 aishwarya: cool :) what needs to be done wrt to getting funds ? 16:39:36 rharish: we have to start contacting sponsors 16:40:08 rharish: we have to make a sponsorship team to work on it 16:40:09 j4v4m4n: yeah, btw I'll be in Pune from 24th sept to 6th oct 16:40:18 how do we go about it ? 16:40:19 rharish: we have a sponsorship letter ready now, and would be reaching out to potential sponsors 16:40:40 j4v4m4n: yea 16:41:00 can/should the same be shared with the everyone ? or should that letter be only from the college's approach ? 16:42:07 rharish: lets have some people from collge and some from community in sponsorship team 16:42:15 rharish: the letter is framed as the college request for a sponsor. Not sure, if we can could hand over to non-college representatives. 16:42:18 yeah and that needs to be done real fast now 16:42:24 rharish: perfect, we'll have a debutsav in pune during that time 16:42:28 aishwarya: oh fine 16:42:35 OMG ! :D 16:42:44 well #debian-in is not owned by any one.. its a community channel and I appreciate people use it for community discussions than creating 100 different channels 16:42:46 j4v4m4n: makes sense. 16:42:52 and scattering discussions every where 16:43:00 copyninja: okay :) 16:43:01 so please go ahead and use it 16:43:11 copyninja: thanks :) 16:43:26 aishwarya: so we can make another letter format where debian community will be contacting sponsors 16:44:06 rharish: share your gpg key id 16:44:07 j4v4m4n: yep. 16:44:30 bsc: yours too, I was on mobile when you shared the link 16:44:42 j4v4m4n: is it mandatory that I use vim-gpg plugin ? I doubt if I can do that right now 16:45:00 j4v4m4n, http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=balasankarc&fingerprint=on 16:45:04 rharish: oh just founf it now 16:45:17 yay \o/ 16:45:18 having dinner, will come in later, my handle is still here though. 16:45:19 and if you folks forgot there also a in.mini@lists.debconf.org which is now full of spam only 16:45:27 rharish, nah, u can always download the file he shared and gpg --decrypt it 16:45:39 * bsc also gonna have food .. brb 16:45:57 shirish: bsc I might leave in the next 10-15 mins, so gnite :) 16:46:45 j4v4m4n: no issues with the gpg key I assume ? 16:53:06 j4v4m4n: thanks :) 16:53:07 rharish: bsc|afk sent the password 16:53:32 rharish: bsc|afk now you have no excuse left to get cfp up :) 16:54:33 shirish: can you try a draft sponsorship request letter from debian side? Pavi might have a format 16:54:53 aishwarya: we should know the sponsorship benefits at different levels though 16:55:36 j4v4m4n: yea, we have defined that. 16:56:50 aishwarya: I hope there is no problem sharing that 16:57:06 wasn't that shared aishwarya ? 16:57:23 j4v4m4n: Am not sure. 16:57:30 will share in 16:57:38 rharish: I think I missed it 16:57:42 hope you guys won't mind me and jo0nas barging in on some debian related discussions 16:57:52 if you are using meetbot let us know and we will wait 16:58:12 I'll be leaving soon btw 16:58:17 hostel regulations again \ 16:58:21 copyninja: I think we will be closing soon 16:58:25 j4v4m4n: you missed what ? 16:58:27 j4v4m4n: yea, i will share 16:58:34 copyninja: we are using meetbot, so you can use it. 16:58:37 oh nvm 16:58:39 rharish: missed the sponsorship levels 16:58:46 yeah, yeah 16:59:03 j4v4m4n: no problem 16:59:13 jo0nas: we need to wait for some time :) 16:59:18 sure 17:00:26 aishwarya: you can either put the sponsorship benefits at levels either the mailing list or share it on our individual names, whichever is better way for you, use that. 17:01:00 yea, i will share it at individual level as of now. 17:01:02 aishwarya: rharish: am in talk with 2-3 institutions but with nothing to go on as far as specifics are concerned, haven't moved . 17:01:04 shirish: how do we assign tasks with MeetBot ? 17:01:39 j4v4m4n: you can use action with the hash before it. 17:01:45 oh btw, I need some naive help over here 17:01:54 j4v4m4n: I did the gpg --depcrypt 17:01:58 what next ? :o 17:02:54 rharish: use the vim gpg plugin 17:03:02 rharish: then you can just open the file in vim 17:03:27 rharish: there will be a plain text file in that folder without .gpg extention 17:03:38 rharish: but delete that file after you see it 17:03:39 j4v4m4n: I did ssh and I was able to login 17:04:06 rharish: never store or transmit passwords in plain text 17:04:14 rharish: awesome! 17:04:29 rharish: so now go debutsav.in folder and run git pull 17:04:38 oh just a min 17:04:49 #action rharish bsc|afk get cfp up 17:05:11 #action shirish come up with a sponsorship letter from debian community draft 17:05:17 j4v4m4n: it's already upto date apparently 17:05:37 #action aishwarya share sponsor benefits with shirish and j4v4m4n 17:05:58 j4v4m4n: shared. please check your mail 17:06:05 #action rharish ask on list if anyone wants to volunteer for sponsorship team 17:06:22 j4v4m4n: okay 17:06:34 shirish: yeah maybe I did mess up the origin :P 17:07:00 should we wind up now? 17:07:13 yeah, I think so 17:07:16 I'm getting late 17:07:32 j4v4m4n: should things go wrong, we can use reflog right ? 17:07:45 will tweak a little tomorrow :) 17:08:28 am signing off. if there is nothing more? 17:08:50 * rharish starts the countdown :D 17:09:09 j4v4m4n: should I close the meeting ? 17:09:52 j4v4m4n: if I have the tiers, can come up with sponsorship letter from debian community 17:10:10 shirish: check your mail 17:10:17 I think you have it :) 17:11:37 rharish: yup, have it. 17:11:47 aishwarya: what do you mean by ND in the letter ? 17:12:00 aishwarya: you need to put some amount therein. 17:13:10 shirish: yep. that's to be filled. 17:13:37 * bsc is back 17:13:39 aishwarya: we need those figures, because we need to know the correct figures. 17:13:52 aishwarya: we can't have two people sharing conflicting figures. 17:13:56 alright then, I'm signing off 17:14:17 bsc: will get in touch with you tomorrow :) 17:14:19 rharish, if u can get somebody to prettify the UI of registration form, pls do it.. 17:14:26 rharish, ok... catch ya 2moro... bye 17:14:46 noted ! 17:14:56 * rharish signs off ; gite everyone :) 17:17:13 shirish: yep. agree. will add that soon. or, if you have a figure, we can add the same one too. 17:17:48 imo, it just needs to reach our budget and the benefits. 17:18:55 aishwarya: true, the thing is we could have more things that we have not thought of, as ways to raise money. 17:19:39 aishwarya: for instance, you could have something local travelling sponsor, food and beverage sponsor, dias sponsor, something like that. 17:19:57 shirish: yep, makes sense 17:19:58 they just have the names on the flyers and don't need any presentation. 17:20:37 shirish: hmm. ok. Roopak worked in this, will get him in touch with you. 17:20:42 you could also have a hospitality partner and a goodwill partner 17:20:58 shirsh: yea 17:21:16 if we do it like that then the overall budget needed from sponsors should be quite less and easily manageable. 17:21:35 lastly 'panel sponsors' 17:21:35 yea 17:22:25 #action aishwarya talks with roopak and comes up figures for various sponsors and perhaps local businessman/business houses who could sponsor that part. 17:22:36 ok 17:22:39 damn even my actions are long :) 17:22:57 as in being descriptive. 17:23:24 j4v4m4n: should we wind up the meet or is there something more to discuss ? 17:24:59 I'll end the meet, we can talk informally as well. 17:25:05 #endmeeting