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[18:25:07] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic are we ready to release<br />
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[18:28:46] * h01ger = Holger Levsen<br />
[18:41:19] * danielsan = Daniel Heß<br />
[18:41:28] &lt;danielsan&gt; \o/<br />
[18:41:36] * jever = Jürgen Leibner<br />
[18:45:39] &lt;h01ger&gt; \o/<br />
[18:47:24] &lt;jever&gt; \o/<br />
[18:54:10] &lt;jever&gt; ... so, do one have some cards, maybe we can play Skat as we are three people here ;-)<br />
[19:30:49] &lt;sepski&gt; have anyone else had a chance to test cups from a ws/tcs on a fresh tjener install ? <br />
[19:35:46] &lt;h01ger&gt; not me<br />
[19:35:51] &lt;h01ger&gt; hi sepski <br />
[19:36:13] &lt;sepski&gt; it's been standing 5 mins now. <br />
[19:38:30] &lt;sepski&gt; is it cups that generates the ssl cert internally ? i dont see any ps that's doing it atlest<br />
[19:38:32] &lt;sepski&gt; danielsan, ping<br />
[19:43:53] &lt;sepski&gt; yes it finished. took 15 mins tho but it did it. <br />
[19:44:02] &lt;sepski&gt; i have no objections to releasing now<br />
[19:45:58] &lt;danielsan&gt; sepski: pong :)<br />
[19:46:16] &lt;sepski&gt; danielsan, nevermind. my cups worked on this install. <br />
[19:46:30] &lt;sepski&gt; must have been some other thing, or low entropy on the other<br />
[19:46:59] &lt;danielsan&gt; \o/<br />
[19:47:21] &lt;h01ger&gt; \o/<br />
[19:47:37] &lt;sepski&gt; took 15 mins tho., but thats  a week virtual one<br />
[19:48:12] &lt;danielsan&gt; good things will come to those who wait :)<br />
[19:48:20] &lt;sepski&gt; indeed<br />
[19:48:46] &lt;h01ger&gt; :)<br />
[19:49:50] &lt;sepski&gt; so anything else stopping us ? <br />
[19:51:46] &lt;h01ger&gt; i wouldnt say so<br />
[19:52:16] &lt;h01ger&gt; wait<br />
[19:52:21] &lt;h01ger&gt; or rather "wait" :)<br />
[19:52:53] &lt;h01ger&gt; it would be nice to add the download links to the images to the PR<br />
[19:53:31] &lt;sepski&gt; the PR dont have to be sent at the moment of release tho ? only the announce mail ? <br />
[19:53:33] &lt;sepski&gt; or ??<br />
[19:54:46] &lt;h01ger&gt; not at the same moment<br />
[19:55:36] &lt;h01ger&gt; i thought we would send the PR as the annouce mail :)<br />
[19:56:02] &lt;sepski&gt; i also suspect mail from one of the know PR guys might have a better chance of penetrating the news's rooms then mail from joe developer<br />
[19:56:09] &lt;sepski&gt; ack yes<br />
[19:56:25] &lt;h01ger&gt; so let us just send to the lists<br />
[19:56:52] &lt;sepski&gt; yeah<br />
[19:56:53] &lt;sepski&gt; hmm<br />
[19:57:21] &lt;sepski&gt; i can't move the contents of new, it's got  pere:www   rights <br />
[19:57:41] &lt;sepski&gt; so i'd have to copy it,, and it might run out of space. <br />
[19:57:59] &lt;h01ger&gt; check with du $dir first :)<br />
[20:00:56] &lt;h01ger&gt; i guess we could save gigabytes by removing some old test dvd+cd images from http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/old/etch/<br />
[20:01:50] &lt;sepski&gt; 11158952        new/      <br />
[20:01:58] &lt;sepski&gt; 1028520  70% /skolelinux/administrator/ftparchive<br />
[20:02:21] &lt;sepski&gt; 11028520  70% /skolelinux/administrator/ftparchive<br />
[20:02:27] &lt;sepski&gt; just a bit to little<br />
[20:03:19] &lt;sepski&gt; seams pere allready removed those old test images<br />
[20:03:55] &lt;h01ger&gt; the r0 source dvd is in ./old/etch already<br />
[20:04:12] &lt;h01ger&gt; besides that old/etch just contains test+rc images. i'd suggest to rm them all<br />
[20:04:23] &lt;h01ger&gt; or at least move away<br />
[20:04:55] * h01ger downloads them from a debconf machine to backup them<br />
[20:06:25] &lt;sepski&gt; ok <br />
[20:06:47] &lt;h01ger&gt; download started. but even with 10-100mbit 40gb will take a while<br />
[20:07:01] &lt;sepski&gt; just take 1 dvd ? <br />
[20:07:20] &lt;sepski&gt; we can live with 99% full until pere or some drift people  returns <br />
[20:07:55] &lt;h01ger&gt; 474mb of debian-edu-etch-amd64-i386-powerpc-DVD-rc3.iso downloaded<br />
[20:08:00] &lt;h01ger&gt; 503<br />
[20:08:05] &lt;h01ger&gt; 536<br />
[20:08:46] &lt;h01ger&gt; so lets wait 5 min and i can tell you what you safely delete. even though i really believe those test images can go. but its better to have a backup :)<br />
[20:09:10] &lt;sepski&gt; absolutly<br />
[20:09:45] &lt;sepski&gt; werner: ping your in drift right ? <br />
[20:09:53] &lt;sepski&gt; havent checked if anyone of them are online tho. <br />
[20:10:02] &lt;h01ger&gt; actually it will take 17min till the dvd iso will be there...<br />
[20:10:13] &lt;h01ger&gt; pere_away is having dinner :)<br />
[20:12:54] &lt;sepski&gt; he's off eating good food and we'r here slaving over a release <br />
[20:13:00] &lt;sepski&gt; :P<br />
[20:15:26] * h01ger gets some beer and puts it in the channel<br />
[20:17:30] &lt;sepski&gt; \o/<br />
[20:18:57] * jever looks at it. It looks like an Astra, but me preferes Jever. Anyhow, me cheers h01ger and opens the beer. Skol!<br />
[20:21:02] * h01ger actually drinks jever :)<br />
[20:21:12] &lt;sepski&gt; jever, your nick is from a beer ? :)<br />
[20:21:39] &lt;jever&gt; sepski: yes, but there is a town named Jever too<br />
[20:22:02] &lt;sepski&gt; witch did you think of when you picked your nick :)<br />
[20:22:14] &lt;jever&gt; the beer!<br />
[20:22:57] &lt;jever&gt; I've a t-shirt with a sentence: No jever, nor fun :)<br />
[20:23:03] &lt;jever&gt; -r<br />
[20:23:41] &lt;sepski&gt; haha<br />
[20:23:44] &lt;h01ger&gt; :)<br />
[20:27:11] &lt;h01ger&gt; debian-edu-etch-amd64-i386-powerpc-DVD-rc3.iso is backup'd now and can be deleted on administrator<br />
[20:27:37] &lt;sepski&gt; ill rm it now <br />
[20:27:45] &lt;sepski&gt; anyone on drift@ last chance...<br />
[20:27:58] &lt;kugg&gt; awsome!<br />
[20:29:07] &lt;danielsan&gt; hey kugg <br />
[20:29:52] &lt;sepski&gt; it's gone, why does not df show more free  space ?? ? /dev/mapper/vg_data-lv_ftp<br />
[20:29:52] &lt;sepski&gt;                        35G   24G   11G  70% /skolelinux/administrator/ftparchive<br />
[20:30:21] &lt;kugg&gt; hey danielsan !! time to celebrate :)<br />
[20:31:15] &lt;sepski&gt; arggghh skolelinux-cd  is bind mounted from dev/mapper/vg_data-lv_archive<br />
[20:31:15] &lt;sepski&gt;                        21G   17G  2.9G  86% /skolelinux/administrator/archive    <br />
[20:31:21] &lt;sepski&gt; there is even less space there. <br />
[20:32:53] &lt;sepski&gt; h01ger, just put it back into old. it's a wildly separate lvm <br />
[20:33:12] &lt;danielsan&gt; sepski: hardlinks?<br />
[20:33:17] &lt;sepski&gt; bind mounts <br />
[20:36:07] &lt;sepski&gt; i guess we could remove a current etch-test image ? then the build would fail on full disk afterwards tho. but...<br />
[20:37:02] &lt;sepski&gt; h01ger, link to rc3 if you want me to put it back ?<br />
[20:37:28] &lt;h01ger&gt; there is no webserver running<br />
[20:37:33] &lt;h01ger&gt; i could scp it<br />
[20:37:38] &lt;h01ger&gt; or install one<br />
[20:37:55] &lt;h01ger&gt; but lets wait if we want to keep them. i think clean up is a good idea :)<br />
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[20:38:09] &lt;h01ger&gt; http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Download now already lists the new images<br />
[20:38:14] &lt;h01ger&gt; rg<br />
[20:38:17] &lt;h01ger&gt; arg<br />
[20:38:46] * kugg = Christoffer Jerkeby<br />
[20:38:50] &lt;jever&gt; ... long meeting today :)<br />
[20:38:54] &lt;sepski&gt; h01ger, yeah keeping old rc's around is not too important <br />
[20:39:03] &lt;kugg&gt; yeah didnt know you were still meeting :)<br />
[20:39:28] &lt;h01ger&gt; sepski, i think its fine to delete etch-test-dvds :)<br />
[20:39:58] &lt;sepski&gt; will be rebuilt as soon as there are space tho <br />
[20:42:30] &lt;h01ger&gt; should i remove the "its not ready yet" intro from http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/PressReleases/PressRelease_DebianEdu-3.0r1_Terra ?<br />
[20:42:37] &lt;h01ger&gt; now?<br />
[20:42:53] &lt;sepski&gt; im copying the images so sure<br />
[20:45:07] &lt;sepski&gt; are you going to send the PR too ? i think we only sent release notes last time (on announce mailinglists)<br />
[20:46:04] &lt;h01ger&gt; i'm not going to send the PR as PR. i would send the PR to the announce lists. should i?<br />
[20:47:41] &lt;sepski&gt; yes i think so. <br />
[20:49:32] &lt;jever&gt; ack<br />
[20:50:02] &lt;jever&gt; so, do we change the topic?<br />
[20:50:04] &lt;sepski&gt; argh out of space. skolelinux-cd is also on a separate lvm. <br />
[20:50:32] &lt;sepski&gt; are there a tool that can follow symlinks, bind mounts and mount and just tell me what device i'm on :P<br />
[20:52:28] &lt;h01ger&gt; df .<br />
[20:52:29] &lt;h01ger&gt; ?<br />
[20:53:24] &lt;sepski&gt; give the wrong device since it does not follow bind mounts<br />
[20:54:02] &lt;h01ger&gt; h<br />
[20:54:03] &lt;h01ger&gt; ah<br />
[20:54:24] &lt;sepski&gt; should we postpone, or should i put them in some temp dir, and symlink each file individually ? <br />
[20:55:09] &lt;danielsan&gt; state?<br />
[20:55:20] &lt;h01ger&gt; arg<br />
[20:55:25] &lt;danielsan&gt; stat i mean<br />
[20:55:26] &lt;h01ger&gt; i've just send the announce<br />
[20:56:40] &lt;h01ger&gt; i could "quickly" mirror skolelinux-cd/etch, but it takes 20min per dvd<br />
[20:56:50] * h01ger sighs<br />
[20:58:00] &lt;danielsan&gt; h01ger: wrong address?<br />
[20:58:21] &lt;sepski&gt; symlinked<br />
[20:58:28] &lt;sepski&gt; does it work on ftp http and rsync ? <br />
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[20:58:54] &lt;sepski&gt; http:yes<br />
[20:58:56] &lt;h01ger&gt; danielsan, ?<br />
[20:59:08] &lt;h01ger&gt; i've backed up the old test images. on purpose<br />
[20:59:56] &lt;danielsan&gt; h01ger: was the arg not about "i've just send the announce"?<br />
[21:00:04] &lt;h01ger&gt; ah. <br />
[21:00:18] &lt;h01ger&gt; the arg was re: sep's "no space" :)<br />
[21:01:41] &lt;sepski&gt; rsync fail without  -L <br />
[21:02:12] &lt;sepski&gt; ftp works <br />
[21:02:15] &lt;danielsan&gt; ah, ok<br />
[21:05:45] &lt;sepski&gt; i guess i learnd  that releases (atlest the iso bits) should idealy be done by someone from  drift, who have the needed permissions to do what must be done :)<br />
[21:06:49] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic see http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/ and party!<br />
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[21:07:02] &lt;danielsan&gt; \o/<br />
[21:07:04] &lt;h01ger&gt; right?<br />
[21:07:05] &lt;h01ger&gt; :)<br />
[21:07:52] &lt;jever&gt; thx to all<br />
[21:08:07] &lt;kugg&gt; you guys have done a great work!<br />
[21:08:38] &lt;h01ger&gt; thanks to everyone involved indeed!!! <br />
[21:08:59] &lt;danielsan&gt; many thanks to everyone involved!<br />
[21:10:04] &lt;sepski&gt; thank you everyone,  :) <br />
[21:10:27] &lt;h01ger&gt; esp. those who are not here today! ;)<br />
[21:11:29] &lt;h01ger&gt; (not nitpicking on so few people here, rather a ref. to the toast "to absent friends" :)<br />
[21:11:40] &lt;white&gt; great<br />
[21:11:59] &lt;white&gt; h01ger: could you send it to d-d-a as well? We send the last one there as well to inform the DD community :)<br />
[21:12:11] &lt;h01ger&gt; should i keep meetbot running to collect cheers (and too late bug reports?:) <br />
[21:12:16] &lt;h01ger&gt; white, will do<br />
[21:12:23] &lt;h01ger&gt; and then i go out to RL party :)<br />
[21:12:42] &lt;white&gt; :)<br />
[21:13:07] &lt;h01ger&gt; sent<br />
[21:13:14] &lt;h01ger&gt; close meetbot or not? ;)<br />
[21:13:38] &lt;kugg&gt; keep it :)<br />
[21:16:20] &lt;sepski&gt; are we sure there are not anything else needing doing ? i dont want to clean the house :P<br />
[21:16:57] &lt;kugg&gt; hehe I can do a ascii art logo for the release :)<br />
[21:21:14] &lt;h01ger&gt; kugg, yezz please!<br />
[21:21:33] &lt;kugg&gt; hehe will do<br />
[21:22:21] &lt;h01ger&gt; sep, update status and roadmap in the wiki? move etch stuff down and lenny stuff up...<br />
[21:27:37] &lt;kugg&gt; yay I got my first R1 cd :)<br />
[21:27:52] &lt;kugg&gt; gotta make 20 more now, I have a handout tomorrow<br />
[21:27:53] * h01ger goes out<br />
[21:27:55] &lt;h01ger&gt; cheers!<br />
[21:28:05] &lt;kugg&gt; cheers good job on ya<br />
[21:29:59] &lt;sepski&gt; h01ger, i'm temped to rip everything non lenny out of the roadmap.. <br />
[21:30:53] &lt;finnarne&gt; h01ger: You should join the admin-discuss list if you're going to continue to send mails there :( <br />
[21:32:16] &lt;h01ger&gt; finnarne, i'm subscribed, but with the wrong list, will fix that later..<br />
[21:37:45] &lt;finnarne&gt; I approved the mails from you. But sometimes it's days between I approve mails that are stuck in the mailq.<br />
[23:04:30] &lt;klausade&gt; alfton: du er på pub i oslo med trådløst nett :-) ?<br />
[23:05:44] &lt;alfton&gt; hehe<br />
[23:05:49] &lt;alfton&gt; Yeah..;)<br />
[23:06:09] &lt;alfton&gt; No im at my friends place<br />
[23:07:42] &lt;klausade&gt; ute i skogen?<br />
[07:21:59] &lt;sep&gt; morning<br />
[07:33:50] &lt;jever&gt; moin<br />
[07:54:20] &lt;OleA&gt; morning :)<br />
[07:55:11] &lt;sep&gt; morn<br />
[08:17:05] &lt;akai&gt; h01ger, jever. Yes, use the l10n-module, it wasnt too fancy when we launched the /no web, but since it's better now, let's use that one ;-)<br />
[08:17:21] &lt;akai&gt; i'll help in any way i can, if there is anything you need updated on the system<br />
[08:44:31] &lt;akai&gt; woooh<br />
[08:44:34] &lt;akai&gt; 3.0r1<br />
[08:44:42] &lt;akai&gt; party tomorrow night in GBG :><br />
[08:48:51] &lt;pere&gt; anyone working on adding 3.0r1 to <URL: http://www.skolelinux.org/no/node/3 >?<br />
[08:49:18] &lt;pere&gt; and <URL: http://www.skolelinux.org/en/node/3 > for that matter.<br />
[08:59:21] &lt;sep&gt; akai, no link to further info on that news item ? eg link to the Download page ? <br />
[08:59:38] &lt;sep&gt; pere, thanks for fixing the iso issue :)<br />
[08:59:58] &lt;pere&gt; no problem.  did not understand why you could not use mv yourself?<br />
[09:00:19] &lt;sep&gt; the files was owned pere:www and 640 <br />
[09:00:42] &lt;sep&gt; i only have access to builder <br />
[09:02:12] &lt;pere&gt; ah.  damned umask.<br />
[09:02:33] &lt;sep&gt; yes :)<br />
[09:04:59] &lt;sep&gt; i guess someone from drift@ should be present if one is planning releases<br />
[09:06:42] &lt;akai&gt; sep: it's been updated, i'll provide links now<br />
[09:06:51] &lt;akai&gt; just thought it'd be best to put the news online first<br />
[09:06:52] &lt;akai&gt; :)<br />
[09:09:51] &lt;akai&gt; linked to the releasenotes<br />
[09:10:39] &lt;pere&gt; sep: yeah.<br />
[09:13:36] &lt;akai&gt; sep: /en/node/3 updated now, with press-release-link<br />
[09:14:42] &lt;sep&gt; do we have someone ersponsible for sending PR to the press ? <br />
[09:16:13] &lt;pere&gt; sep: nope.  I forwarded it too pressemelding@nuug, reaching ~80 press addresses.<br />
[09:17:40] &lt;akai&gt; that'd do the trick in norway i guess<br />
[09:17:54] &lt;akai&gt; what about germany, france etc?<br />
[09:18:18] &lt;white&gt; akai: world domination does not come over night ;)<br />
[09:18:34] &lt;akai&gt; white: been reading my webpage eh? ;p<br />
[09:18:44] &lt;white&gt; no, actually not. URL=<br />
[09:18:46] &lt;white&gt; ?<br />
[09:19:21] &lt;sep&gt; i guess the media contacts in teh different countries listed in  http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/PressReleases/PressRelease_DebianEdu-3.0r1_Terra should send it to their nations media ? <br />
[09:20:30] &lt;sep&gt; with the exception of norway where pere allready did the work :)<br />
[09:23:34] * akai is trying hard to find a hotel in gbg saturday->sunday<br />
[09:23:39] &lt;akai&gt; so far, no luck :p<br />
[10:13:57] &lt;akai&gt; pere?<br />
[10:52:58] * h01ger moins<br />
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