17:58:49 #startmeeting 17:58:49 Meeting started Tue Jul 12 17:58:49 2022 UTC. The chair is spwhitton. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:58:49 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:58:51 #topic Roll Call 17:58:56 Matthew Vernon 17:58:59 #info Apologies received from Niko Tyni and Christoph Berg. 17:59:01 Sean Whitton 17:59:15 Elana Hashman 17:59:26 Simon McVittie 18:00:01 Helmut Grohne 18:00:58 gwolf: around? 18:02:40 spwhitton: will connect a bit 18:02:50 But have to leave soon 18:02:53 cool 18:03:00 #topic Review of previous meeting AIs 18:03:05 Emperor: any news on yours? 18:03:20 apologies, didn't leave gwolf time to type his name) 18:03:30 I caught up on everything other than my AI ^_^; 18:03:46 ehashman: do you think you can do it between now and the next meeting? 18:03:47 Gunnar Wolf :-) 18:03:56 spwhitton: yeah I hope so given DC coming up 18:03:56 Sorry, I was typing from the phone. I'm here now. 18:04:05 ehashman: okay then 18:04:07 was hoping to have it done before then 18:04:13 #action ehashman to commit private-comms slides+gobby to git procedures/ 18:04:34 spwhitton: I updated the bug metadata as requested last time on #966468 ; there has been no change to src:util-linux since our last meeting 18:04:46 well, any DD is free to NMU 18:04:52 do we want to do anything else other than keep an eye? 18:04:59 still some months before freeze. and it wouldn't be a transition. 18:05:31 Not sure at what point it would be worth asking the maintainer their intentions? 18:05:46 it seems they have none :) 18:05:47 given that u-l is essential, it'll be part of the toolchain freeze 18:05:52 helmut: good point 18:06:52 I do think we have to reach out to the maintainer 18:07:06 of course they are not overly happy of being overriden... 18:07:25 does anyone know whether ah will be at dc22? 18:07:29 Emperor: would you like to write a quick note? 18:08:02 if yes, I volunteer to talk to ah 18:08:19 let me check 18:08:21 Yeah, I can do. I could offer a salsa MR and/or NMU, maybe, if they'd rather? [but maybe we should see if helmut can see them at DC first?] 18:08:37 if we don't know he's there, we could just do both at once, helmut and Emperor 18:08:57 I think we have enough time to go sequentially 18:09:29 I think he won't be there 18:09:46 that makes things a lot simpler. 18:10:03 helmut: but we can meet during DebConf and write to him? 18:10:13 If you like :) 18:10:24 I'm not sure about the benefit of that 18:10:31 who would like to take charge of it? Emperor is most on top of the bug, so I'd prefer him to write the note if possible 18:10:41 cos, I don't think it needs to be complex. just asking. 18:10:42 debconf is usually is quite packed with stuff to do for me 18:10:48 * Emperor is content to do so 18:11:12 ok, so I am happy to leave it to Emperor 18:11:14 gwolf: are you okay with leaving this to Emperor at this stage? we may need more people getting involved later 18:11:17 ok 18:11:20 I prefer Emperor doing it (assuming that ah will not be there) 18:11:40 #action Emperor to continue monitoring #966468 18:11:57 helmut: I entered the admin pages of dc22, and found no Andreas-es attending 18:11:58 #action Emperor to ask maintainer of util-linux about his plans 18:12:14 sweet 18:12:15 but I am not too familiar with it, so I could have missed something 18:12:22 #topic DebConf22 presentation 18:12:33 I wrote in the agenda the two subitems here 18:12:34 I've confirmed attendance and booked travel 18:12:48 gwolf too right? 18:12:59 Yes, I'm leaving on Thursday 18:13:02 I will still not be attending (except virtually, but there's very little overlap between CEST and PST...) 18:13:13 right, ehashman and I have a rough timezone for this 18:13:22 I'll give another talk, so my laptop will likely work with the video equipment. 18:13:43 so, helmut and gwolf, who of you is least busy with other dc stuff? 18:14:06 My laptop has a _very_ hacky video out. I'd very much prefer if we used helmut's 18:14:32 right we'll do that. but we need someone else to do slides and be the person to do the initial talk through 18:14:39 but yes, I'll look at the material we have, and will coordinate on-site with helmut 18:14:40 s/someone else/someone/ 18:14:56 right. Well, I guess we can split responsabilities there, it's both of us on stage 18:15:03 looks like meet the TC is at 6am my time, oof 18:15:08 ehashman: yup 18:15:10 Will any of you participate remotely? 18:15:19 I will try to but as ehashman says, it will be 6am. 18:15:20 if it could be pushed to the 8am slot I could confirm participation 18:15:28 that's the final talk slot at 17:00 local time 18:15:42 we could certainly ask for that 18:15:51 I'm quite busy with non-debian stuff until debconf. I cannot reasonably take tasks until then. We'll somehow manage to coordinate the presentation. 18:16:07 * Emperor isn't going to be able to be there even virtually 18:16:09 #action spwhitton to ask about moving TC talk to last slot in day 18:16:20 #action helmut to handle slides with his laptop 18:16:20 we can ask the content team to shuffle the schedule for us 18:16:29 #action helmut and gwolf to co-ordinate the actual presentation 18:16:31 makes sense to be able to include ehashman and spwhitton on a decent timeslot 18:16:33 final thing is updating hte slides 18:16:36 I'll ask content@ right way 18:16:38 this doesn't have to be gwolf and helmut 18:16:46 gwolf: cool please CC d-c 18:16:58 d-c ?? 18:17:03 debian-ctte sorry 18:17:12 right 18:17:12 I can do the slides as a fallback, though I have my own presentation to prepare 18:17:17 mutt 18:17:18 (doing a prerecorded one) 18:17:21 grrr, sorry :-) 18:17:25 haha 18:17:28 thanks gwolf 18:17:41 indeed thank you 18:17:59 any volunteers for slides? it's an easy one, just merge in ntyni's bits mail into prepandemic slides 18:18:04 they're latex 18:18:30 I am quite booked with my own slides (am part of four talks, one of them solo)... 18:18:42 ...so I'd prefer not to, but can do it if ultimately needed 18:18:55 Emperor: sounds like you're busy 18:18:56 ? 18:19:03 * Emperor has driven LaTeX/beamer before, but is kindof snowed under with everything ATM so would rather not have another thing needs doing inthe near future 18:19:05 sorry 18:19:18 okay then looks like I'm doing the slides :) 18:19:22 #action spwhitton to prepare the slides 18:19:31 #praise spwhitton 18:19:31 okay then I think that is everything. 18:19:43 Emperor: heh :-) 18:19:48 All hail spwhitton! 18:20:29 anyone think there's anything else needed? what we agreed was something lowkey, truly mostly a chance for people to, as it says, meet the TC 18:20:38 not like previous two years 18:23:15 well okay then! 18:23:20 #topic Any Other Business 18:23:23 anyone have anything? 18:23:37 * gwolf keeps mouth shut 18:23:41 not from me 18:23:43 And fingers. 18:23:45 nothing from me 18:24:09 nope 18:24:11 coolio 18:24:53 Mail to content@debconf sent. 18:25:09 gwolf: ah great 18:25:12 #endmeeting