18:59:44 #startmeeting 18:59:44 Meeting started Wed Jul 17 18:59:44 2019 UTC. The chair is marga. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:59:44 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:59:52 #topic Roll Call 19:00:04 Margarita Manterola 19:00:09 David Bremner 19:02:24 Philip Hands 19:03:28 And I think that's probably all of us. 19:03:36 #topic Review of previous meetings AIs 19:03:59 Previous meeting is at: http://meetbot.debian.net/debian-ctte/2019/debian-ctte.2019-06-19-18.59.html 19:04:37 I had 2 AIs (one that I didn't actually #action myself for): to talk with smcv about closing the bug that he replied to but didn't close, and one about replying to Sam's thread with the outcome of our discussion last month. 19:04:58 I failed at both :( [It's been an extremely busy month] 19:05:17 Either of you feels like taking on one of those tasks? 19:05:29 I'll prod smcv 19:05:59 I'm not sure I have the discussion for item #2 very fresh in my mind, I'd have to check the logs. 19:06:17 and which Sam thread are we on about? (sorry about that -- *snap*) 19:07:34 Fortunately meetbot is here to help us: http://meetbot.debian.net/debian-ctte/2019/debian-ctte.2019-06-19-18.59.log.html has the full discussion 19:07:47 The thread is "Delegating decisions about Policy" 19:08:47 The consensus was the deciding policy is not the right role for the TC, as far as I recall / can tell from a quick re-read 19:09:46 yeah, that looks roughly right. or put it more procedurally, that the TC is reactive by design. So if people want advice they can ask 19:10:45 Yeah. It's now been quite a while since the thread died down, but I still feel bad that nobody from the TC replied 19:10:49 maybe we can discuss a bit further with Sam at the TC BoF 19:11:08 unfortunately only a small subset of us 19:11:13 yeah... 19:11:29 or we can reply pre-BoF and discuss the reply if needed 19:11:34 Ok, I'll action fil about the other thing 19:11:57 #action fil to prod smcv about closing #923450 19:12:08 marga: I can promise to give feedback quickly on a draft for #2, does that help? 19:12:29 Uhm, ok, I guess 19:12:46 or I could start the ball, but I think it needs more than just me to write. 19:13:00 #action marga & bremner to work on drafting a reply to Sam's thread about "Delegating decisions about Policy" 19:13:21 #topic Any other business? 19:13:56 bremner, you'll be in Curitiba, then? 19:14:04 * fil prods smcv on IRC -- will mail if he doesn't notice 19:14:10 marga: I'm already there (here) 19:14:28 Ah, cool :). I'm in Buenos Aires now, flying there on Friday. 19:14:32 yay! 19:14:39 I'm happy to help with that BTW 19:15:09 but if you're going to be in the same room, that's probably easier 19:15:15 I know fil, ntyni, and OdyX are not going. And gwolf is currently on the way there. Do we know about smcv and Mithrandir? 19:15:27 Mithrandir is coming iirc 19:16:03 have fun BTW :-) 19:16:06 Ok :) 19:16:32 I guess that's it for other (non)-business? 19:16:38 Alright, I think actually talking about the role of the TC during the BOF might make it more interesting than in previous years. We'll see. 19:16:45 Thanks and yes. 19:16:48 #endmeeting