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20:43:49 <elmig> who's around?
20:44:22 * wferi is around
20:44:36 * dba listenin only, as always :)
20:44:41 <dba> +g
20:45:00 <elmig> ah, not alone :>
20:45:18 <elmig> i've compiled a list of active bugs on the ml for the last 2 weeks
20:46:11 <elmig> as we are working/fixing for the release we should fix known issues
20:46:34 <elmig> so the list (i hope) may help on following these bugs
20:47:03 <elmig> i've excluded most of wishlist as they're not relevant for the squeeze release
20:47:20 <elmig> so, i'm going to start with the list
20:47:45 <elmig> ...unless anyone has other points to discuss first
20:47:46 <elmig> ?
20:48:17 <wferi> so go on, pls...
20:48:30 <elmig> #602292 #600305 - ata_generic not included in any installer module package
20:48:30 <elmig> failed installation on Apple MacBook Air 11.6"
20:48:31 <elmig> patch available
20:48:46 <elmig> otavio: can you comment on this?
20:49:44 <otavio> elmig: we ought to fix this. Please add on the blocks and I check wedge and udebs fix for it
20:50:23 <elmig> #agree fix #602292 #600305.
20:50:27 <elmig> blocks?
20:51:03 <otavio> elmig: on wiki, bottom of announcement
20:51:09 <otavio> elmig: so it is easy to follow
20:51:51 <elmig> #agreed elmig add blocks
20:51:57 <elmig> next
20:52:00 <elmig> Now we know that snd-powermac is currently the best choice for a
20:52:00 <elmig> PowerMac G4 (digital audio).
20:52:01 <elmig> http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=HmHBdP8mck75CRxrroepMgjb8XZchDLff1xXS@mail.gmail.com
20:52:14 <elmig> there are 3~4 open brs merged with this
20:52:46 <elmig> for squeeze?
20:52:47 <otavio> elmig: the problem is that we need to "auto-detect" it
20:52:56 <otavio> elmig: so I doubt we can sort it out in time
20:52:57 <elmig> humm
20:53:05 <elmig> hw-detect?
20:53:12 <otavio> elmig: unless someone with many ppc hw can work on that
20:53:17 <otavio> elmig: yes, related to it
20:53:32 <elmig> #agreed ask for help on the powerpc sound issue
20:53:41 <elmig> #598668: Fwd: Re: Installation fails on acer aspire one za3 (grub-pc)
20:54:41 <elmig> graphical mode on grub
20:55:38 <elmig> moving on
20:55:39 <elmig> #606976: Kernel panic with Squeeze (AMD64) d-i beta 2
20:55:41 <elmig> Dell XPS 630i
20:55:59 <elmig> installer doens't boot on this dell
20:57:04 <elmig> XTS encriptation for lvm
20:57:04 <elmig> http://lists.debian.org/20101202030159.GJ4083@localhost.localdomain
20:57:06 <wferi> quite misterious.
20:57:12 <elmig> patch available on ml for review
20:57:36 <otavio> the kernel bug looks to be a kernel issue no?
20:57:43 <elmig> i guess
20:57:55 <elmig> allocate to 2.6.32 ?
20:57:58 <wferi> at least a full console log would be due
20:58:19 <wferi> #606976 is not a kernel bug per se
20:58:49 <otavio> wferi: it is mostly probably a kernel issue or initramfs-tools issue
20:59:06 <wferi> the panic reason is a missing root filesystem. which should be initramfs, so it can be a bootloader issue as well.
20:59:29 <wferi> initramfs-tools is not around at this stage, as I understand it.
20:59:36 <otavio> wferi: bootloader no since it has loaded the kernel and got up to there
20:59:42 <otavio> wferi: I see
20:59:57 <wferi> yes, the initrd is missing, the kernel is there.
21:00:06 <otavio> wferi: the root probing is done on initrd in lvm case
21:00:22 <wferi> lvm?
21:00:31 <wferi> are we talking about #606976?
21:01:37 <otavio> oops
21:02:30 <wferi> but (8,3) is sda3... what is this?
21:03:49 <otavio> wferi: it looks like the user had the USB disk partitioned to unkown fs
21:04:15 <otavio> wferi: it ought to have got the fs there
21:04:35 <wferi> but why would the installer kernel try to mount root from there?
21:04:53 <wferi> why didn't it just use the initramfs?
21:05:51 <otavio> wferi: good question ... no idea ... seems strange
21:05:56 <elmig> otavio, wferi can you reply to the bug so we can go deeper on this?
21:06:16 <otavio> wferi: even worse since he say's he is using squeeze that has been dist-upgraded from lenny
21:06:27 <otavio> wferi: so theorically kernel works fine on the machine
21:06:50 <wferi> yes
21:07:30 <wferi> I'm unsure what to ask from the reporter yet...
21:09:04 <otavio> wferi: we could ask him to dd mini.iso into a pendrive and try to boot with it
21:09:20 <otavio> wferi: this might show if he did something wrong when doing the pendrive
21:09:41 <wferi> but the lenny installer works for him...
21:11:17 <wferi> If I don't load the initramfs, the kernel tries to mount unknown-block(254,14)
21:11:22 <elmig> he says the same happens burning netinst on a cd
21:12:38 <OdyX> ( /me is fortunately around btw; but afaik I don't have much to say… )
21:12:38 <otavio> elmig: he might been doing something wrong
21:13:01 <otavio> elmig: or not; using a mini.iso might  reduce the amount of possibilities
21:13:13 <elmig> i suggest moving on and follow up on ml
21:13:33 <wferi> ok
21:14:04 <elmig> xts encription for lvm?
21:14:42 <elmig> i guess it's only to add crypto-xts module
21:15:20 <elmig> but needs to be built an image to test, and i'm not sure if it goes for squeeze
21:15:38 <otavio> elmig: I guess it needs more integration into partman-crypto
21:16:07 <elmig> #agreed 606976 follow up on ml (dell xps boot issue)
21:16:13 <elmig> wheezy?
21:18:06 <otavio> elmig: I think so
21:18:07 <elmig> #agreed xts encription not for squeeze in this point in time, needs integration with partman-crypto
21:18:19 <elmig> #605759 - [s390/hercules] disk partitioning failed: no /dev/dsda1
21:18:46 <elmig> new partitions don't seem to show up in /dev.
21:19:17 <otavio> elmig: this can be a parted, kernel or udev issue
21:19:32 <wferi> do they show up in /proc/partitions?
21:22:23 <elmig> wferi: dont know
21:22:42 <wferi> let's ask him to partition the device from the shell and look
21:23:17 <elmig> #agreed ask reporter to partition from shell and look if theres /proc/partitions
21:24:08 <elmig> #600235
21:24:08 <elmig> previously defined mount points are discarded after encrypted volumes configuration
21:26:41 <otavio> elmig: cjwatson is the guy that mostly knows about partman internals
21:27:03 <elmig> you/i can ping himm
21:27:44 <elmig> #agreed ping cjwatson on #600235 for help
21:28:11 <elmig> #606834
21:28:12 <elmig> The partitioner of the installer on debian-squeeze-di-beta2 doesn't let me use the LVM
21:29:00 <otavio> uh
21:29:02 <otavio> strange
21:29:10 <elmig> 64 mb... low mem
21:29:15 <otavio> ahh
21:29:16 <otavio> heh
21:30:05 <elmig> errata? manual?
21:30:22 <elmig> lvm/crypto needs at least xx mb ram?
21:30:23 <otavio> elmig: manual I think
21:30:51 <elmig> #agreed info on the manual about ram requirements for lvm/crypto
21:31:00 <elmig> (606834)
21:31:11 <elmig> ...
21:31:15 <elmig> #605562
21:31:15 <elmig> installation-report: Installation from usb stick lead to unbootable system (und unbootable usb stick)
21:31:55 <elmig> boot installed on pendrive instead of hdd
21:32:06 <otavio> elmig: I guess it has been fixed by cjwatson before b2
21:32:12 <otavio> elmig: it was a bug in grub-installer
21:33:13 <elmig> #agreed ask to test with beta2
21:33:18 <wferi> did that happen before 02-Dec-2010?
21:33:33 <wferi> those images are said to have to bug.
21:33:36 <elmig> 1-dec
21:34:24 <wferi> a retest wouldn't hurt then
21:34:46 <wferi> the test images were dailies from 2-Dec 0:22
21:35:22 <elmig> #agreed ask to test with beta2 (#605562)
21:35:34 <elmig> #598130
21:35:35 <elmig> grub-installer cannot install grub-pc on amd64 ( perhaps other architecture )
21:36:20 <wferi> grub-installer: info: Calling 'apt-install grub-pc' failed
21:36:37 <otavio> elmig: it looks like a mirror problem
21:36:59 <elmig> #agreed ask to test with beta2 (#598130) it may be a mirror problem
21:37:12 <elmig> #581687
21:37:12 <elmig> debian-installer: Explanation for naming of devices wrong when attempting to install Grub not on MBR
21:38:27 <elmig> humm, i guess this is related with other br
21:38:35 <elmig> some messages should change
21:38:58 <elmig> but was marked not for squeeze afair
21:39:07 <elmig> cjw commented on this
21:39:21 <elmig> "nd I entered (hd0,4). This results in an error. I try
21:39:22 <elmig> again and this time I enter (hd0,5) and this works."
21:39:43 <elmig> this must be merged with the other br
21:39:47 <elmig> agree?
21:39:50 <wferi> it would be a pity to leave this misleading message in the installer
21:40:03 <wferi> especially that it doesn't actually require translation.
21:40:40 <elmig> i will search the other br and report it on ml
21:40:49 <wferi> bubulle_ should comment on this, probably
21:40:54 <elmig> i think was discuessed here
21:41:01 <wferi> ok
21:41:02 <elmig> a meeting cjw was present
21:41:43 <otavio> elmig: we might "ping" cjw again on this and see what he say's
21:41:55 <elmig> #agreed #581687 there's similar bug open, let's merge it and look to the information on this. afair cjw commented on the issue
21:42:32 <elmig> #606416
21:42:33 <elmig> Installation-report: No boot from raid 1 (raid1) partition on debian-squeeze-di-beta1 new install
21:42:36 <elmig> (several bugs?)
21:43:50 <elmig> Dec 8 11:39:18 kernel: unknown partition table      <<<=== *** Is this
21:43:50 <elmig> the start of my problems ?? ***
21:43:51 <elmig> ...
21:44:38 <wferi> no, that's not a problem.
21:45:01 <wferi> the kernel checks each new disk for a partition table.
21:45:58 <elmig> the reported ralks about a workaround he saw in armel
21:46:52 <wferi> "The hardware post and bios progress ok, but when bios hands over to continue the ipl from a disk it just waits."
21:46:57 <wferi> what is ipl?
21:47:45 <elmig> initial program load
21:48:22 <elmig> On larger computers (including mainframes), the equivalent term for "boot" is "initial program load" (IPL) and for "reboot" is "re-IPL."
21:48:31 <wferi> thanks. I'd say this is a Grub issue, either that of the loader or the installer.
21:48:58 <wferi> which may result from a bios bug, of course.
21:49:48 <elmig> ask for logs?
21:49:59 <wferi> I don't know the HighPoint controllers...
21:50:38 <wferi> maybe grub was installed to the wrong place.
21:51:11 <wferi> who knows what /dev/hde is...
21:51:37 <wferi> "(This should be my raid set md master boot record)"
21:52:03 <wferi> but the GRUB MBR would print at least a letter...
21:52:19 * otavio needs to go out
21:52:22 <wferi> or wouldn't it? ask cjwatson
21:52:22 <otavio> :-(
21:52:35 <wferi> I'll also have to leave soon.
21:52:47 <wferi> (like in 10 minutes)
21:52:58 <elmig> #agreed #606416 ask for logs and help (cjw)
21:53:42 <elmig> i can bring my list in two days...
21:53:49 <elmig> tomorrow no good for me
21:54:09 <wferi> me neither
21:54:57 <elmig> wferi: friday?
21:55:07 <wferi> risky
21:55:55 <elmig> i will appear, if you guys around and willing to continue we may look at more brs
21:56:14 <elmig> #endmeeting