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19:00:18 <marga> #topic Roll Call
19:00:22 <marga> Hello everyone, thanks for coming. Please say hi
19:00:23 <hvhaugwitz> hi
19:00:27 <cts> hi
19:00:28 <madduck> hi
19:00:29 <DLange> o/ hello
19:00:31 <loni> hi
19:00:32 <cate> hi
19:00:33 <thkoch> hi
19:00:34 <marga> Agenda at: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf15/Germany/Minutes/2015-04-20#Agenda
19:00:37 <madduck> DLange: you rebel
19:00:39 <nattie> hola
19:00:56 <marga> #topic Conference Dinner
19:00:57 <marga> #info The restaurant made a mistake. The chairs have been asked to extend budget accordingly. We're waiting for that.
19:00:57 <marga> madduck, loni: Anything else on that?
19:01:12 <_rene_> sorry, late hi
19:01:15 <madduck> well, as some of you already know, there's been a misunderstanding
19:01:19 <madduck> with the restaurant
19:01:20 <loni> no
19:01:22 <MeanderingCode> hi
19:01:49 <madduck> and we are back in negotiations. I've asked the chairs to extend the budget just to be sure we know how far we could go, but no response yet.
19:02:01 <madduck> so we're on it.
19:02:04 <madduck> that's all.
19:02:15 <loni> exactly
19:02:24 <marga> Alright, plans if they say no?
19:02:30 <madduck> the chairs?
19:02:42 <madduck> then there won't be any conf dinner and lots more money left over after dc15
19:02:56 <madduck> all the other offers loni got were heaps more expensive
19:03:19 <madduck> so yes, we can have a second bbq at the venue as the conf dinner, instead of an authentic beergarden experience
19:03:28 <madduck> which I think we would all like to have, especially as dc15 team
19:03:43 <marga> #info Even though the offer is now more expensive than before it's still much cheaper than all other options we have.
19:04:06 <cate> dc15 has the money, right?
19:04:07 <marga> What's the plan with alcohol?
19:04:13 <madduck> cate: yes.
19:04:17 <marga> cate, sure, but the chairs need to approve
19:04:28 <marga> cate, because it's a change in the budget
19:04:31 <madduck> marga: I think we should still ask people drinking alcohol to pay e.g. 5 €
19:04:46 <madduck> whether we get an all-inclusive rate, or buy beer/wine separarely.
19:04:47 <marga> (4k EUR in the worst, probably half)
19:04:55 <cate> in marga debconf we had a bottle wine per table, for free, IIRC
19:05:34 <madduck> well, at 5€/person, alcohol would still be subsidised by Debian, but we really should not just make it free-for-all I think
19:05:51 <marga> madduck, alright. I'd be fine with 5 EUR flat or 10 EUR = 3 physical drink tokens
19:06:07 <marga> (a la FOSDEM)
19:06:14 <jathan> Hello
19:06:19 <madduck> let's discuss the details as we get closer, ok?
19:06:22 <marga> ok
19:06:31 <marga> #topic Job fair, showcase booths
19:06:35 <marga> Any news on this front?
19:07:06 <DLange> Zugschlus has been to the venue last weekend and measured the spaces
19:07:32 <DLange> but he's ill at the moment so we're still waiting for the uploads to git/git-annex
19:07:46 <marga> #info Zugschlus has been to the venue last weekend and measured the spaces. Currently waiting for him to upload the data
19:07:55 <marga> Anything else?
19:08:16 <DLange> just FYI, he also took heaps of photos he said
19:08:27 <DLange> incl. ones for the directions page
19:08:38 <marga> Great
19:08:45 <marga> #topic Child care
19:08:52 <marga> madduck, ?
19:09:12 <madduck> actually, this is nattie's domain
19:09:29 <cate> and Ilona
19:10:38 <nattie> we're investigating the possibility of he.du, in addition to other providers
19:10:49 <nattie> we're also still considering teckids for the older kids
19:11:05 <marga> he.du is the offer that we had talked about before?
19:11:09 <loni> both sounds great
19:11:09 <madduck> yes
19:11:27 <nattie> do we know he.du's prices?
19:11:31 <loni> he.du for smaller children and teckids for the older ones
19:11:40 <marga> Yeah, sounds good.
19:11:45 <madduck> yes, we have an offer, nattie.
19:11:52 <madduck> but lots has happened since
19:11:53 <marga> I think there are already enough people interested
19:12:12 <nattie> it looks like they take kids from age 2 up
19:12:15 <marga> (people that sent mails kids@)
19:12:16 <madduck> i.e. I convinced them to cater their offer even better to the needs of debconf and int'l parents.
19:12:43 <marga> madduck, will they have people that speak French ?
19:12:53 <nattie> should we also investigate options for looking after kids younger then 2?
19:13:03 <nattie> also, how about evening babysitting for things like the conf dinner?
19:13:10 <marga> Yes, there are quite a bunch 1 year olds (or there abouts)
19:13:11 <madduck> nattie: he.du do kids <2, but it's doubtful we need them
19:13:11 <loni> i think they do it for younger aswell
19:13:35 <marga> madduck, why is it doubtful?  There are plenty of young kids coming
19:13:46 <nattie> OK, fair enough.  should loni and i get in touch with them after we've settled on our exact requirements?
19:14:01 <marga> what do you mean?
19:14:14 <MeanderingCode> most parents don't leave their 1 year olds with someone unfamiliar all day.  perhaps if they're offering smaller blocks of time for that age
19:14:18 <nattie> marga: ages, numbers, etc
19:14:40 <marga> nattie, ah, "they" meant he.du, sorry, I got it the other way round.
19:14:49 <MeanderingCode> also, isn't techkids only going to midweek?
19:14:59 <nattie> MeanderingCode: not all day, certainly - but having the availability to drop off for an hour or so
19:15:04 <nattie> MeanderingCode: 15-18 August
19:15:08 <nattie> IIRC
19:15:09 <marga> I think that this is a chicking-and-egg issue, as some parents will only settle after they have the offer
19:15:16 <madduck> nattie: Sunday — Tuesday
19:15:41 <marga> But still, I think that from the messages sent to kids@ there's already a list long enough of people that might be interested and if a proposal is sent forward other people will probably sign up as well.
19:15:44 <madduck> marga: yes, exactly. And I think it's for us to decide whether we take money in hands and just do it or not
19:15:51 <nattie> ah yes, setup on saturday for teckids, i think
19:16:00 <madduck> nattie: exactly
19:16:01 <MeanderingCode> yes, so s'th else for older kids after that...there have been a couple individuals who said they'd be interested in offering some activities or workshops
19:16:24 <madduck> MeanderingCode: probably self-organised stuff, yes.
19:16:27 <nattie> are we defining "older" as 9 and up or so?
19:16:35 <madduck> 8 I'd say
19:16:50 <nattie> basically teckids' target audience
19:16:56 <MeanderingCode> madduck: is there space that would be available for self-organized activities, in addition to "regular" community space?
19:16:57 <nattie> at any rate
19:17:02 <marga> The kids on the list that we made with ana last week are between 0 and 4.
19:17:09 <madduck> MeanderingCode: nothing's decided yet, but I assume so, yes.
19:17:33 <MeanderingCode> k, who should be pinged about that question?
19:17:38 <marga> MeanderingCode, there's lots of spaces that can be taken over if there is something to do there.
19:17:45 <MeanderingCode> marga: great, good to know
19:18:01 <madduck> MeanderingCode: I think you just get on with it and then we'll make it happen. We do have many small team rooms.
19:18:08 <marga> Maybe wherever techkids is can become the self-organized activities for older-childer space.
19:18:09 <MeanderingCode> perfect
19:19:04 <madduck> marga: so we have 1k € in the budget for childcare. If we wanted to offer professional child-care with he.du  for 20 kids, we need about 4k, and more if we don't want all parents to have to pay 100€ for each kid
19:19:19 <marga> Anyway, about the full daycare thing, most of the audience for that is younger children.  There's already a group of approx 6 < 2years and then 8 between 2 and 4.
19:19:40 <madduck> so my suggestion forward would be to get this money allocated and then for nattie and her team to quickly make a decision
19:19:49 <madduck> he.du are not able to hold up their offer after april ends
19:19:54 <MeanderingCode> marga: that expressed interest? my 3 year old is unlikely to participate in paid childcare
19:20:03 <marga> madduck, if parents pay EUR 100 per kid, then it's 4k extra?
19:20:14 <madduck> marga: yes.
19:20:23 <madduck> from he.du, but also not at all negotiated
19:20:29 <marga> MeanderingCode, unfortunately, I don't know who you are, as you don't have it in your irc whois
19:20:52 <madduck> marga: he and his kids are already in the file ana used (the GPG encrypted one)
19:21:08 <marga> madduck, that was not what she used.
19:21:33 <madduck> lovely, now we have multiple sources of data.
19:21:38 <madduck> whatever
19:21:38 <marga> Do we have a cheaper option as well?
19:21:41 <MeanderingCode> my point was only that we cannot assume all children registered to the conf will be participating in professional childcare
19:22:08 <madduck> MeanderingCode: we're not.
19:22:11 <MeanderingCode> k
19:22:42 <madduck> MeanderingCode: but nobody can expect that we'll cater to every single child. There'll be room(s) and stuff, but unsure whether we can get people to be on site
19:23:12 <MeanderingCode> madduck: of course.
19:23:12 <MeanderingCode> madduck: "get people to be on site"?
19:23:15 <madduck> marga: yes, there are other options, but I stopped investigating leads as I am not in charge.
19:23:16 <marga> Do we have another option (with price) for he.du?
19:23:40 <marga> is someone investigating this?
19:24:03 <loni> not really
19:24:12 <loni> another option
19:24:40 <marga> Alright, then I guess the thing to get done right now is to negotiate an increase in the budget with the chairs
19:24:42 <loni> and i think 100 � per kid is fair
19:24:49 <marga> nattie, will you take care of that?
19:24:56 <nattie> sure
19:25:10 <marga> loni, sure, but that's 100 EUR per kid, + 4k EUR paid by DebConf which is not in the budget
19:25:26 <marga> Alright
19:25:46 <marga> #action nattie to negotiate changing the budget for childcare, which would allow going with he.du option
19:25:53 <marga> loni, will you try to investigate a cheaper option?
19:26:15 <maxy> So, thats 6k, per 20 kids. I doubt all parents are willing to pay it so, that should be probably 5k budget.
19:27:14 <maxy> The other option is to have particular nannys contacts and let parents to self organize.
19:27:38 <madduck> maxy: yeah, but no "nannies" are interested, and it leaves the whole liability question open.
19:28:27 <MeanderingCode> why would that leave a liability question open? b/c the conf "recommended" the providers?
19:28:35 <marga> MeanderingCode, yes
19:28:49 <madduck> can't give you details really. It would just not be cleanly handled
19:28:54 <loni> marga> i get no response at all
19:29:10 <MeanderingCode> i presume that liability does not apply to self-organizing among attendees
19:29:14 <madduck> just like having a nanny in Germany in your own house is an insurance problem that nobody wants to deal with
19:29:59 <marga> madduck, ? Au-pairs are something really common...
19:30:12 <marga> Anyway, no use keeping this going.
19:30:31 <marga> loni, it would be nice if we could provide some other (cheaper) option.  But for now, let's move on.
19:30:48 <madduck> i will happily send to loni all that I have.
19:31:07 <nattie> that's probably handy, and we can take it from there
19:31:19 <marga> #action madduck will send any other info he has regarding chilcare investigation to loni & nattie.
19:31:27 <marga> #topic Open weekend plan / webpage
19:31:51 <marga> Content team is preparing a blogpost about this
19:31:59 <madduck> nattie: you did see that he.du are only holding their offer until mid next week, right? just regarding the chairs budget thingie. ping me if you need any info. i will submit the offer to git.
19:32:24 <marga> I don't know if there are any other updates to be given
19:32:28 <nattie> righto.
19:32:32 <marga> jathan, maxy ?
19:33:15 <maxy> And the idea is to send a list of accepted talks with the second cfp in middle may
19:33:40 <marga> Yeah, but that's for the whole DebConf, not special about the OpenWeekend
19:34:35 <maxy> Right, we haven't decided how to separate the talks accepted for the openweekend and regular events
19:34:47 <jathan> Sorry
19:35:18 <madduck> maxy: did you manage to finalise the schedule for the weekend, as we discussed last week?
19:36:04 <maxy> I still have it pending to send it to -team
19:36:11 <jathan> Yes in Content Team we are defining OpenWeekend stuff already
19:36:18 <madduck> that would already help to create a structure for the weekend
19:36:37 <marga> #action maxy to formalize schedule finishing by sending it to debconf-team
19:36:39 <jathan> By the moment we have only the pad draft
19:36:51 <marga> #info Content team will post a blogpost about the OpenWeekend soon.
19:36:54 <madduck> jathan: please keep us (dc15 team and fundraising team) in the loop, as this has direct effects on us and we are waiting for weeks already to move on…
19:37:14 <jathan> Ok madduck
19:37:31 <marga> Alright, moving on...
19:37:34 <marga> #topic DayTrip
19:37:44 <madduck> nothing.
19:37:47 <marga> :(
19:37:50 <madduck> nobody cares. nobody moves.
19:37:57 <marga> what happened with the buses?
19:38:09 <madduck> I am still negotiating with the bus companies
19:38:13 <madduck> kinda waiting for the conf dinner signature
19:38:28 <marga> alright
19:38:35 <madduck> and they are not too excited to plan with us given that we don't know where we are going anyway
19:38:40 <nattie> aren't there a few people investigating day trip options at the moment?
19:38:46 <marga> nattie, no
19:38:55 <madduck> but I don't care, I waive money in their faces and tell them to treat me as king being the client and stuff ;)
19:38:57 <nattie> i thought thkoch was going something
19:38:58 <marga> There were ideas written into the wiki, but that was it
19:39:22 <madduck> nattie: he'll do more scouting he said. But we have plenty ideas. We need someone to make a decision and organise the frickin' thing
19:39:33 <cts> did the budget for the daytrip increase?
19:39:46 <madduck> nope, without anything concrete to spend it on
19:39:55 <thkoch> there are a lot of things that can be done but how to know what people would actually like to do? So we should offer like 3-4 choices?
19:39:57 <madduck> but I said that this is something we'll worry about when we have a plan
19:40:09 <maxy> So, we are planning to use 6 buses, right?
19:40:12 <madduck> thkoch: start with one?
19:40:47 <marga> thkoch, it's nice to have options, but if we have one thing is already better than no thing
19:41:11 <madduck> maxy: yes, at the moment
19:41:43 <marga> thkoch, if you want to go with options, something rather physical and something rather nerdy would probably be two popular choices.
19:42:38 <marga> thkoch, would you accept being in charge of planning this?
19:42:41 <thkoch> I want to move the thing forward and make 3-4 packages when I've been there: a) sport (hike / bicycle) b) culture c) technologie d) just fun
19:42:54 <marga> thkoch, sounds nice
19:42:57 <highvoltage> ooh nice choice categories
19:43:06 * highvoltage makes notes for dc16
19:43:18 <marga> thkoch, the wiki has some ideas, but you can probably come up with more, what we need is someone in charge
19:43:30 <maxy> thkoch: That sounds nice, also some options could require that the participants pay fees.
19:43:37 * nkukard nods highvoltage
19:43:40 <maxy> Like museum entrances
19:44:01 <madduck> unless we pay out of dc funds, which can be decided later once we know details
19:44:02 <thkoch> I assume that's ok, that the participants pay fees?
19:44:09 <madduck> thkoch: yes, it's been done before.
19:44:14 <nattie> as long as they know in advance, it's fine :)
19:44:27 <marga> thkoch, yes.  It's been done before.
19:44:40 <hvhaugwitz> thkoch: what about to form a day trip team? i volunteer to be part of it
19:45:09 <madduck> hvhaugwitz: a team without a leader is worse than no team though.
19:45:35 <_rene_> it sounded like thkoch is the leader ;)
19:45:47 <thkoch> hvhaugwitz: plz have a look at the day trip site in the wiki, add more ideas or more infos to the existing ideas!
19:45:51 <cts> if in doubt, madduck is the leader ;-)
19:46:04 <thkoch> I'M THE DAY TRIP LEADER :-)
19:46:08 <marga> Awesome
19:46:11 <madduck> \o/
19:46:21 <marga> #action thkoch is the DayTrip leader. hvhaugwitz volunteers to help
19:47:14 <marga> One extra comment about the fees. If possible it would be desirable to have an option that doesn't require paying fees for those that are short on money.
19:47:28 <marga> moving on...
19:47:44 <maxy> An option other than stay in your room, of course.
19:47:47 <marga> #topic Getting there webpage
19:48:05 <marga> I don't recall if there was any action point about this last week. I guess Zugschlus pictures...
19:48:08 <madduck> i think we need to skip this as Zuschlus is not here and he has pictures.
19:48:13 <marga> Ok.
19:48:16 <_rene_> as DLange said Zugschlus did pictures
19:48:21 <marga> Alright
19:48:33 <_rene_> and Zugschlus and me agreed that we do it together (and/or me the text, let's see..)
19:48:44 <marga> #info Zugschlus took pictures, they should get added to the page in the near future between Zugschlus and _rene_
19:48:53 <marga> #topic T-shirts / Conf bags
19:49:12 <marga> DLange, any news on this front? Do you have quotes from t-shirt printers?
19:49:15 <DLange> #link https://wiki.debconf.org/upload/d/d3/Dc15-T-shirt-proposal2.svg
19:49:42 <marga> I like the lion scratches
19:49:52 <DLange> please take a look at this and give nattie and me feedback whether you like them or would like something more out of the "normal layout"
19:49:56 <madduck> DLange: can those lion scratches go over the shoulder?
19:50:09 <DLange> the latter we asked for but Valessio hasn't yet had an idea
19:50:16 <madduck> it's more a question to the printer
19:50:21 <loni> nice, little bit "german" :)
19:50:35 <DLange> madduck: at extra cost yes (repositioning the t-shirt for a third print run)
19:50:36 <madduck> the colours aren't decided, loni, I think.
19:50:47 <madduck> DLange: so do we have quotes yet?
19:50:59 <DLange> no, design first, then quotes
19:51:10 <marga> I like all of them... :)
19:51:22 <DLange> you want one each? :)
19:51:32 <nattie> i do like the lion scratches
19:51:51 <_rene_> I like the upper left one best, then the upper middle one
19:51:54 <marga> #info feedback should be sent to DLange and nattie regarding the T-shirts layouts
19:51:56 <maxy> should we vote on design?
19:51:57 <_rene_> the others not so much...
19:52:07 <DLange> I'll ask what it costs to make them cross the shoulder. I like that idea.
19:52:30 <madduck> or across the hips/chest
19:52:38 <maxy> We would need the designs in all the colors to decide
19:52:46 <DLange> maxy: I'd be in favor of this. Let's do a general feedback round and then I'd be open to a vote.
19:53:21 <DLange> maxy: nah, we'll adopt to base colors we can get and design colors to match. That's not a good committee topic.
19:53:28 <marga> DLange, anything about conference bags?
19:53:51 <DLange> I have the ones that FrosCon uses as I like them very much.
19:54:11 <DLange> I'll get an offer and then present options.
19:54:12 <marga> You mean you have a quote from a printer?
19:54:15 <marga> ok.
19:54:51 <marga> Alright, we have two more topics, both in search of an owner.
19:55:01 <marga> #topic Arrivals, local transport
19:55:03 <DLange> yup. Bags are easy. We can't do anything but print existing stock from time and budget options anyways, so that makes it somewhat easy.
19:55:19 <marga> The idea has been floated to provide attendees with an individualised PDF containing details about their payment and arrival instructions. Could possibly double as a local transport ticket.
19:55:43 <marga> I guess this would mean talking to someone in Heidelberg that approves this PDF as a valid city ticket
19:55:56 <DLange> as much as I understood we don't do pre-payment, so this would basically be the invoice?
19:55:57 <_rene_> yeah, someone from VRN
19:55:59 <madduck> at rnv.de
19:56:08 <marga> I know that for example the D�orf Messe does that when they have messes there.
19:56:28 <DLange> they probably have more than 300 tickets though
19:56:31 <madduck> they pay a reduced fare
19:56:46 <madduck> anyone willing to take this up with rnv.de?
19:56:47 <DLange> I doubt we're big enough for any local "Verkehrsverbund" to care
19:56:49 <marga> DLange, well, more like how much they need to pay to the hostel so that people know.
19:57:07 <marga> But the government in HD had seem interested in "helping out" even if not sponsoring, right?
19:57:21 <DLange> marga: sounds like a great thing tp put in an email
19:57:35 <marga> DLange, how do you mean?
19:57:36 <madduck> marga: not sure about that actually.
19:57:49 <madduck> they would have hosted a reception in the town hall, but that's about it, I think
19:57:49 <marga> Alright, I thought I remembered that, but I might be wrong.
19:57:57 <madduck> they've been extremely unhelpful else
19:58:04 <DLange> "when you arrive, please have 123€ ready to pay for x, y, z as you selected"
19:58:26 <madduck> DLange: yeah, in an email, with a PDF attached that people quickly print out
19:58:32 <marga> DLange, ah, sure, the PDF is more so that it's easier to print, because with email sometimes it gets badly formatted.
19:58:41 <madduck> with our logo (CI!!) and a map etc.
19:58:49 <_rene_> there was also the idea of talking with db for a event ticket
19:58:58 <_rene_> from $somewhere -> hd (+ city)
19:59:02 <marga> Anyway, this is about getting free/discount transport tickets.
19:59:04 <_rene_> but probably same issue
19:59:20 <madduck> _rene_: yeah, froscon has experience with that.
19:59:27 <marga> RIght, this needs someone to drive this. I think it's a great idea, but needs a person.
19:59:28 <madduck> and that would solve the transport issue
19:59:48 <_rene_> someone suggested that to me in chemnitz having ccc in mind, but yeah
19:59:54 <marga> Could we steal someone from Froscon?
19:59:55 <madduck> conny: are you still with us? Would you be able to do this?
20:00:52 <marga> Maybe I can ping her out-of-band
20:01:05 <marga> The other topic without owner is Bistro selection
20:01:14 <marga> #topic Bistro selection
20:01:22 <madduck> marga, maxy: do you remember what exactly we talked about here at the venue?
20:01:31 <madduck> i took notes but I cannot find the file for the life of me
20:01:36 <madduck> so I think I might have lost it
20:01:40 <marga> madduck, we talked about a lot of things, and all of it in German :)
20:01:47 <madduck> that should be *no* problem for you!
20:01:49 <DLange> which food to offer there?
20:02:06 <madduck> yeah, and which drinks, and at what prices
20:02:08 <marga> Anyway, they did say that they could offer extra brands provided that they could still have the ones that they HAVE to offer
20:02:27 <marga> madduck, but they didn't exactly say what and at what prices. It was more like a show of good will.
20:02:38 <madduck> basically, there are 3 aspects I think
20:02:39 <DLange> I guess Mate always finds some geeks to drink it
20:02:53 <madduck> (1) ensure that we have late night snacks that are a little more than just crackers
20:03:10 <_rene_> for the record: http://www.bahn.de/p/view/bahncorporate/geschaeftsreisen/buchung/veranstaltungsticket_faqs.shtml
20:03:13 <madduck> (2) provide some quality beer & wine rather than the crap they have in stock
20:03:17 <_rene_> no + city afaicr ;-(
20:03:26 <madduck> (3) provide some alternative drinks so they don't have to sell coke products etc.
20:04:06 <madduck> again, someone would need to take this on and drive it.
20:04:34 <DLange> so basically we need to request this from the venue-run "bistro"? Do I understand that correctly?
20:04:43 <madduck> yes
20:04:55 <madduck> and they already said they would
20:04:58 <DLange> and that bistro will be manned "late night"=
20:04:59 <DLange> ?
20:05:06 <madduck> DLange: yes, 2am
20:05:11 <madduck> it's even in the contract that they will work with us on selectin
20:05:17 <marga> DLange, yes, the venue already agreed that they would do this, so this is mostly coordinating with them exactly what they will have
20:05:18 <madduck> now we just need to work with them ;)
20:05:45 <marga> I think they are forced to have pepsi+friends, but they can also add other things if we ask them nicely
20:06:00 <DLange> let's compile a list in a whiteboard and throw that over the fence
20:06:19 <DLange> I'm not too happy to do that unless I can also set the prices :)
20:06:48 <madduck> you can negotiate the prices if you want.
20:07:00 <madduck> I've already taken them down from 3.5/2.5 for beers to 3/2
20:07:01 <DLange> do we have a contact of the guy/gal that runs the bistro?
20:07:09 <maxy> madduck: You already had arranged a nicer price list
20:07:11 <madduck> DLange: we also discuss this with Rodine
20:07:29 <marga> Ah, yes, we said we would have tokens
20:07:34 <madduck> maxy: not really. Basically they said that they would pass on volume discounts though
20:07:47 <madduck> marga: yes, little cards like dc13
20:08:00 <madduck> like 20€ and 20 fields…
20:08:03 <DLange> 300-500 people drinking is a lot of money
20:08:04 <marga> Round number tokens. i.e. like a "streifenkarte" that has 10 spaces, each 1 euro, and when you go to the bar they cross out as many as needed.
20:08:50 <marga> DLange, indeed, that's why they agreed they would give us a discount on the prices, although no exact number was agreed
20:09:30 <DLange> can we organize our own "competition" if they are not nice enough to us?
20:09:36 <madduck> nope
20:09:51 * DLange packs drinks into the car
20:10:08 * nkukard packs drinks in DLange 's car
20:10:11 <marga> We are not allowed to eat outside food
20:10:25 * DLange packs nkukard into his car
20:10:37 <marga> They said they would look the other way for the ocasional drink, but they are asking us kindly to not do it en-masse
20:10:43 <madduck> I will engage with the venue to do the bistro selection then, maybe DLange can help?
20:10:52 <madduck> or DLange does it and I help?
20:11:01 <DLange> you do and I'll help
20:11:02 <marga> DLange was suggesting making a list of things we want
20:11:06 <marga> I think that would help
20:11:14 <madduck> DLange: please make such a list, that would help me a lot to get started
20:11:16 <marga> So that we don't keep forgetting
20:11:26 <DLange> o.k, will do
20:11:39 <DLange> can you send me the bistro list as is?
20:11:42 <marga> #action DLange to make a list of things that we want to ask from the bistro
20:11:51 <marga> #madduck to talk with the hostel to coordinate this
20:12:06 <DLange> #madduck is a meetbot command :)
20:12:15 <marga> wow, sorry :)
20:12:18 <marga> #action madduck to talk with the hostel to coordinate this
20:12:29 <marga> Alright, thanks for staying after hours.
20:12:32 <madduck> i feel like a meetbot command sometimes
20:12:37 <marga> Next week global meeting in #debconf-team
20:12:40 <marga> #endmeeting