18:00:35 #startmeeting DebConf video team meeting 18:00:35 Meeting started Tue Aug 27 18:00:35 2019 UTC. The chair is tumbleweed. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:35 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:49 #link http://deb.li/oNCD 18:00:50 agenda 18:00:54 #topic roll call 18:00:58 o/ 18:00:59 \o 18:01:10 * RattusRattus raises hand "Here!" 18:01:12 hi 18:01:15 hi 18:01:18 hi 18:01:29 Hello! 18:01:52 hrm, wouter isn't around :( 18:01:57 first agenda item was aimed at him 18:02:12 #topic DebConf19 video. Are we done yet? 18:02:14 * h01ger waves 18:02:17 anyone know anything more than I do here? 18:02:28 I think wouter mentioned that there are some videos waiting for review 18:02:44 https://sreview.debian.net/overview seems to agree 18:02:47 ^^ urbec can you take that as an action? 18:03:14 yes 18:03:17 #action urbec to review outstanding videos 18:03:21 thanks! 18:03:22 thank you 18:03:41 #topic next hardware purchases 18:03:48 I started a discussion in https://salsa.debian.org/debconf-video-team/docs/issues/10 18:04:31 there's no urgency here (unless the next agenda item needs something) 18:04:58 (hi) 18:04:58 should we make the action here for people to review and discuss? or have a quick discussion now? 18:05:05 or wait until there's a lot more and ask for budget later 18:05:25 if you know what needs to be bought, I don't think we need to wait 18:05:35 if we need more later, we can buy that then 18:05:37 well road map of what we want toc achive / goals perhapos would be better first? 18:05:43 so, some VGA convertors that work are probably a good idea 18:05:48 and we know we need omni mics 18:05:51 those are the list right now 18:05:55 this ticket was only about the VGA stuff 18:06:09 are we covering full sound for 1 room 1st or roll out for 3? 18:06:16 carl also suggested some jacks for cases 18:06:40 RattusRattus: generally omnis seem to be hard to hire, so I think we'd find more useful with or without 3 rooms of complete equipment 18:06:41 if we are not flight casing kit do we want to be buying heavy kit right now (i.e. cable snakes and 2 more sound desks) 18:07:20 hrm, we're probably talkin gcross-purposes a bit 18:07:27 yeah 18:07:28 yes omnis would be good as too would shotgun mics (for goldfish bowl) 18:07:29 I'm talking specifically about what's in that ticket 18:07:55 should we spec out more of what we need for the goldfish bowl before we move this forward, then? 18:08:05 right - I held off adding to the list before we descussed direction of travel 18:08:13 let's talk about the issues separately 18:08:29 about the vga scaler/convertor: if you know what needs to be bought, just buy it 18:08:52 about the omni's: I'm assuming you want the same type we already have? in that case: also, just buy it 18:08:57 ok do we care about VGA? I thaught we (me) were going to update docs explicitly dropping VGA support 18:09:14 about a flight case and stuff, that probably needs a plan instead of just buying random bits 18:09:45 How many people are still asking for VGA support? 18:09:51 RattusRattus: AIUI, with these convertors, vga would 'just work', and they're not that expensive 18:09:54 if we want VGA that works, we know what we need to buy. We should just do it 18:09:54 hang fire a moment ivodd. BST < ivodd> let's talk about the issues separately 18:10:02 gio: enough that it was an annoyance at DebConf 18:10:15 f.e. the people who use coreboot/libreboot only have VGA 18:10:18 those pesky x200 users 18:10:34 right so #1 we do still care about VGA 18:10:38 So maybe it would be sensible to keep supporting. 18:11:03 let's say they cost $60 each. x3 ? 18:11:04 And my experience is too that VGA-to-HDMI thing are pretty cheap and easy to use. 18:11:31 ^^ but not the VGA converters we currently use as input to opsis 18:11:32 Oh no, sorry, I use the other one. Ignore me. 18:11:39 gio: random VGA to HDMI things don't work in our setup 18:11:44 our experience is that 95% of those suck. But we know some that work, and I'm proposing buying them 18:11:57 secoded 18:12:06 OK second subtopic: omnis 18:12:23 we currently have 4. 6 would be useful for debconfs, as they stand 18:12:23 three sounds like a waste, but then again if we only get one we'll need more at once and it's going to be annoying 18:12:46 olasd: yeah, I'm similarly unsure about that 18:13:02 3 vga converters or are we now onto mics? 18:13:04 but having to not depend on people to coordinate them in advance is nice 18:13:16 we're still on vga :P 18:13:29 yeah, yeah, let's just go with three. 18:13:30 if there is a box to mount them in, you should mount them, and thus you need 3 18:13:50 How did I miss the start when I sent out the email... 18:14:07 CarlFK: please let's not bring up boxes as part of this 18:14:16 we're trying to make decisions 18:14:27 omnis : yes. next? 18:14:39 carl was suggesting some things for boxes 18:14:52 but that starts to feel outside the immediately actionable scope 18:15:01 I don't think buying 'things for boxes' is useful without a plan 18:15:06 unless somebody wants samples of the things he was suggesting, for playing with at the next sprint 18:16:04 well the 12V connectors are easiy enough to get hold of. but I agree we should have a suitable PSU for them as well 18:16:05 sorry - I kinda thought boxes were a given 18:17:48 shall we move on? 18:18:00 (it doesn't feel like this is moving anywhere) 18:18:33 yes 18:18:36 #topic Vaumarcus mini-debconf 18:18:40 anyone thinking of going? 18:18:43 yes, I am 18:18:47 I am going. 18:18:48 \o 18:18:52 olasd: gonna take equipment? 18:19:13 I at least booked a car hire for that purpose 18:19:25 I have been looking at travel for me. 18:19:35 also going 18:19:52 olasd: is there any technical discussion we need to have about it? Can you lead that? 18:20:01 olasd: ok - I was considering driving / vai paris 18:20:07 via even 18:21:03 urgh I missed some actions 18:21:11 #action tumbleweed to buy 3x exatron VGA convertors 18:21:18 #action tumbleweed to buy 2 more omnis 18:21:26 RattusRattus: if you can confirm that works out, I can cancel the booking and we can go together 18:21:27 or maybe olasd for the omnis? 18:21:39 orga is planning to have the talks in the ground floor of this building: https://www.lecamp.ch/en/infrastructure/infos/rotonde 18:21:50 the soom was the second talkroom at debconf13 18:21:53 room 18:22:36 it's currently unclear when the room will be available and when there will be talks 18:23:00 olasd: I think ferry / fuel would come to around £420 (but that would get both olasd and me there and back) 18:23:01 tumbleweed: I can have the budget discussion how to get the hardware there with the miniconf orga, and make sure we have time for setup / teardown 18:23:02 (they know we will need time for setup, so talks can't start immediately when we get the room) 18:23:31 #action olasd to coordinate vaumarcus mini-debconf budget 18:23:43 olasd: can you also coordinate network needs? 18:23:48 right, yes 18:23:50 #action olasd to coordinate vaumarcus with mini-debconf orga 18:24:07 olasd: can we chat imeadiatly after this meeting to see if we can sort a mutually suitable travel setup? 18:24:13 RattusRattus: yes 18:24:16 ty 18:24:49 but IIRC we need one talk room of kit only? 18:24:51 I assume we'll need dc19 videos done first 18:24:56 and get wouter to import their schedule 18:24:57 RattusRattus: yeah 18:25:16 RattusRattus: your budget estimate also needs to account for French tolls and Swiss vignette 18:25:23 it sounds like we'll have a nice big local team 18:25:41 ack 18:25:51 you mean local video team? 18:25:52 (from Paris when I looked it was around 150 EUR overall) 18:25:55 ivodd: yepah 18:26:26 olasd: that is much cheeper than I can do it for - but I could always eurostart to paris and travel with you 18:27:04 anyway we can sort specifics after the meeting 18:27:48 are we done? 18:28:05 ack 18:28:12 #info olasd, jathan, tobi, RattusRattus are all intending to attend as local video team 18:28:17 #topic Any Other Business 18:28:27 Happy with this meeting slot? 18:28:33 tumbleweed: urbec as well... 18:28:34 Shall we make it monthly, on the last tuesday? 18:28:41 #undo 18:28:41 Removing item from minutes: 18:28:43 #undo 18:28:43 Removing item from minutes: 18:28:44 sounds good to me 18:28:47 works for me 18:28:52 #info urbec, olasd, jathan, tobi, RattusRattus are all intending to attend as local video team 18:28:57 #topic time slot 18:29:17 #agreed we'll keep this meeting timeslot. Last tuesday of the month, 18:00 UTC 18:29:19 works for me 18:29:27 yes monthly / last tuesday / 1800 utc sounds good 18:29:32 ✔ 18:29:46 Ok 18:29:48 urgh, google calendar doesn't do last tuesday 18:29:54 only 4th tuesday 18:29:57 ok 18:30:06 I should know by then if miniconf cambridge is happening in November... 18:30:52 AOB.... phls: did you get everything you needed for video budget close? 18:31:01 RattusRattus, no 18:31:08 #undo 18:31:08 Removing item from minutes: 18:31:11 #agreed we'll keep this meeting timeslot. 4th tuesday of the month, 18:00 UTC 18:31:11 I haven't the values for each 18:31:17 each of you 18:31:52 who needs actions here? 18:31:59 Kyle sent: Flights were covered for Andy and I only. My ticket was 16 670.09 ZAR 18:32:00 (~1089.49 USD), but I can't remember how much Andy requested. Both these 18:32:00 amounts were reimbursed by SPI. 18:32:06 * RattusRattus £1000 GBP (already paid) 18:32:23 ok, thanks 18:32:37 so, just RattusRattus and Kyle used the budget? 18:32:44 no 18:33:11 hardware shipping expenses were (apparently) in this budget line as well 18:33:28 i think ok 18:33:29 I've not submitted for reimbursement of the return costs yet 18:33:31 think so 18:34:00 olasd, do you send me when you have it? 18:34:10 I will, yes 18:34:51 any other business? 18:35:03 thanks 18:35:05 phls: please let us know if you still need anything 18:35:25 ok 18:36:09 olasd: So will you communicate with MiniDebConf Vaumarcus Local Team to coordinate Video Team needs? 18:36:46 yes :) 18:36:58 Perfect, thank you :) 18:37:03 sounds like the meeting is over 18:37:12 ahead of schedule! 18:37:20 #endmeeting