18:59:36 #startmeeting 18:59:36 Meeting started Wed May 30 18:59:36 2018 UTC. The chair is pollo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:59:36 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:59:40 #topic Roll Call 18:59:46 good morning 18:59:48 please say hello if you are here for the meeting 18:59:56 hello if you are here fore the meeting 19:00:08 meanwhile, have a look at the proposed agenda: http://deb.li/35Rds 19:00:10 it never gets old 19:00:58 hello therefor meeting. 19:01:06 hola 19:01:20 hi 19:03:26 anyone wants to add something to the agenda? 19:04:26 nope 19:04:31 #topic Hamburg mini-debconf post-mortem 19:04:37 it was nice :D 19:05:00 #info videos are published: https://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2018/miniconf-hamburg/ 19:05:09 tumbleweed also uploaded them to YT 19:05:33 Hi, sorry I'm late 19:05:42 we also had the chance to play with one of the new CCC VoC audio kits 19:05:53 digital microphones that pop when you turn them off 19:05:55 because why not 19:06:03 Hamburg was good 19:06:08 pollo: did you get a currywurst? 19:06:11 the form factor of the kit was nice though 19:06:33 Are there pictures anywhere of them? 19:06:41 nattie: nope, seems wursts are surprisingly hard to find in Hamburg 19:07:29 paddatrapper: CCC VoC wiki has pics 19:07:43 CarlFK: thanks. I'll take a look 19:07:51 paddatrapper: check your phone ;) 19:08:28 I think that's it for the post-mortem 19:08:37 anyone wants to add anything? 19:09:14 Well done to the reviewers getting all the videos out so quickly 19:09:42 #topic Hardware follow-up 19:10:05 olasd: is bring the mixer from Cambridge to TW directly an option? 19:10:16 why would we bring it to taiwan? 19:10:27 ah, nvm, we don't need it there 19:10:42 well, we still need get RattusRattus to post it to you then :p 19:11:07 well, the next european event will probably be a Cambridge MiniDC at this point 19:11:21 so, we'll see 19:11:27 hmm, right 19:11:36 audio hw then? 19:12:01 yeah 19:12:14 we talked a little about this in Hamburg, and in retrospective we might be better with something that only does EU frequencies 19:12:32 I'm waiting for my contacts to get back to me about the mics - unfortunately I only managed to chat to them last week 19:12:58 That does make finding mics easier 19:13:10 yeah, and would bring the cost down a lot 19:13:16 I'm not convinced spending 10+k EUR on audio kit we may or may not ship outside of the EU once a year is reasonable 19:13:28 Yeah 19:14:22 How were the mics from CCC? 19:14:25 bad 19:14:30 bah 19:14:41 they were okay once people stopped turning them off 19:14:51 Heh, ok. I'm happy to take a look at other options 19:15:05 they also had a digital mixer based on android 19:15:11 fun stuff with servos 19:15:14 never again 19:15:23 :> 19:15:33 * paddatrapper hides 19:15:40 That does sound error prone 19:16:08 paddatrapper: do you have some time to look for other wireless mics? 19:16:33 pollo: yup, though from about 2 weeks time, after exams end 19:16:52 that's fine, I guess we won't be needing it in TW anyway 19:17:13 We're using venue mics mostly for TW if I remember correctly 19:17:18 ack 19:17:21 #action paddatrapper to revise the new audio HW kit proposal for EU frq only 19:17:33 anything to add on for this topic? 19:17:50 yeah 19:18:27 there's a bunch of Free Software-related events in Paris that struggle with recording/streaming because of ancient hardware 19:19:16 there might be interest in "us" (basically, me) "renting out" (basically, helping them record with) our kit 19:19:30 * wouter says a belated hi 19:19:52 olasd: i think that's a good idea if you don't think it's too much workload for you 19:19:56 +1 19:20:01 +1 19:20:21 olasd: do you mean they'd pay "us" for use of the equipment? 19:20:31 or just a "hey, here's stuff, you guys do free software so have at it" 19:20:34 who knows, these people might even contribute some code to our ansible stack 19:20:42 they might at that 19:20:48 (not saying we need to do either, just wondering) 19:21:05 wouter: maybe, maybe not; for instance the Paris Perl Mongers have asked me for advice wrt buying kit 19:21:11 also, it's probably a good idea to talk about this now rather than to fight about it afterwards 19:21:38 olasd: how often do the perlmongers, for example, do events? 19:21:48 olasd: i think that's the real question - how many events are we looking at 19:21:58 of course it's good in the name of inter-community cooperation 19:21:58 where they want recordings, once or twice a year 19:22:06 same for ubuntu-fr 19:22:28 so maybe 4 things a year altogether? 19:22:32 or are there other things? 19:22:43 for now that's all I know of 19:22:47 it's really down to whether you feel that you can fit it into your schedule really 19:22:56 and maybe some of us can also come help out if that's useful 19:23:04 and/or help train people from their group as well 19:23:16 the end goal would be to have a bunch of minions in Paris that would be trained on our kit 19:23:25 yeah, that sounds like a good idea 19:23:33 or, "a common kit" whatever that is 19:23:50 wfm 19:23:51 that's what IRILL / Sylvestre tried to do "back in the day" 19:24:06 so we start by lending "ourselves" and the kit, and then that might grow to a kit that goes around paris on the semi-reg? 19:24:18 but the audio kit we are looking at is only for 1 room 19:24:26 I'd be wary of doing it without the DPL knowing though 19:24:30 after all, Debian paid for it 19:24:32 i suspect most of those events are only one room 19:24:38 or am I being too conservative here? 19:24:42 wouter: who's saying anything baout the DPL not knowing? 19:24:47 nattie: yeah 19:24:52 nattie: nobody, just pointing out :) 19:24:55 (for both) 19:25:04 this is all pending discussion with the DPL, i'm sure 19:25:40 so I guess we all agree it's not a bad idea, but since we don't have an audio kit atm, we need to talk about it once we have one? 19:25:58 pollo: at least a plan for one 19:26:06 not necessarily? 19:26:24 we can tell them "you'd need this type of audio gear, find a rental place"? 19:26:40 * paddatrapper needs to go 19:26:51 I'll have to catch up later. Cheers! 19:27:11 paddatrapper: we'll keep you posted 19:27:17 well, is anyone against the idea of lending a recording kit + olasd once in a while in paris? 19:27:28 nattie: thanks 19:27:28 for now the only thing I'll do is keep talking to them; showing them what our stuff needs and can do. if that suits them, we can talk about specifics 19:27:38 pollo: I'm not against it 19:27:51 pollo: I think that's a no 19:28:14 #info olasd is currently talking with people in Paris about lending our recording kit once in a while for FOSS-related events 19:28:16 and personally, I also think we shouldn't necessarily limit it to Paris 19:28:24 anything else to add? 19:28:30 nope 19:28:54 #topic Preparations for DC18 19:29:07 latest news is tripods have been rented 19:29:18 I might have mentioned it before, but since this is a meeting: I won't be at dc18 19:29:39 I can see myself setting up SReview remotely though 19:29:44 we should also get computers from the university, but we still don't now how many or what their specs will be 19:30:06 medicalwei[m] is still working on general audio rental 19:31:02 what about shipping the gear? 19:31:32 I haven't looked at prices yet 19:31:54 how much time does it usually take to prepare that? 19:32:21 1-2 weeks 19:32:27 okay, no stress then :) 19:33:50 anything to add? 19:34:00 pollo: who's looking at those computers? 19:34:09 medicalwei[m] 19:34:18 or at least someone from the local dc18 team 19:34:21 right 19:34:55 okay, that sounds like it's being handled then 19:35:04 #topic VoC conf 19:35:37 that seems to have petered out actually 19:35:37 *a tumbleweed rolls past* 19:35:39 I'll remove thing from future meeting agendas, please add tell us if something happens eventually 19:35:46 s/thing/this/ 19:35:47 (no not that tumbleweed) 19:35:49 haven't heard of it in a while 19:36:00 I'll poke them again, but don't hold your breath 19:36:18 someone made me realize that DebConf is in only 2 months 19:36:31 olasd: yup! 19:36:35 I feel like I was in Montréal yesterday 19:36:38 it's weird 19:36:39 :) 19:36:47 olasd: pollo was 19:37:11 actually... (ok well actually you're right he left Paris on Monday :P) 19:37:27 I'm going to update sreview on vittoria "soon" 19:37:37 yeah, it's coming it fast, I still haven't bought my plane ticket... 19:37:50 so it uses the packaged version from backports rather than a from-git "installation" 19:37:50 ah, in AoB, tumbleweed has uploaded the minidebconf curitiba videos to youtube 19:37:53 as well 19:38:14 unless we have some event coming up that might interfere with that? (don't think so) 19:38:16 #link https://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2018/mini-debconf-curitiba/ 19:38:31 wouter: our next thing will be DebConf I think 19:38:40 yeah, then now seems like the right time to do it 19:38:45 .oO(I hope) 19:39:05 next topic? 19:39:06 Hello 19:39:12 hello afrocubanito[m] 19:39:28 pollo: yeah I'm good 19:39:51 do we need a meeting sooner than in 1 month? 19:39:51 is it time to start increasing meeting frequency? 19:39:54 i've been helping afrocubanito[m] with voctomix/ansible 19:39:57 pollo: snap :) 19:40:00 I guess in 2 weeks would be a good idea 19:40:07 yeah, think so too 19:40:17 * olasd nods 19:40:38 june 13th, same time? 19:40:38 I'll try to have plane tickets and a gear shipping plan for the next meeting :P 19:40:53 pollo: sounds good 19:41:08 afrocubanito[m]: welcome! we'll be able to talk to you properly just as soon as we wrap up this meeting :) 19:41:09 there's a Debian meetup so I won't guarantee full availabilty, but I should be able to report on things 19:41:13 although not being through 20:30 - 21:30 CET would be better for me 19:41:46 but no need to change everything just for me 19:41:54 olasd: june 14th, from 18:00 to 19:00 UTC then? 19:42:07 wfm 19:42:10 is that a thursday? 19:42:13 yes 19:42:23 i'm not available, but i don't really have to be 19:42:29 pollo: yeah that works 19:42:51 #agreed next meeting will be on Thursday June 14th from 18:00 to 19:00 UTC 19:42:54 we should probably keep in mind that it might not work for others though 19:42:59 #endmeeting