20:04:00 #startmeeting 20:04:02 hi :) 20:04:11 agenda at http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Videoteam/Meetings 20:04:30 is that agenda fine? 20:05:10 Fine. 20:05:27 #topic 1. we do 2 rooms now 20:05:31 the ordering was wrong.. 20:05:40 Is there anything to discuss?? 20:05:44 that topic is basically just a reminder / see if we still agree 20:05:45 no 20:05:47 not really 20:05:50 also no schedule yet 20:06:00 #topic 2. hardware needed for videoteam 20:06:11 no decision on talks even... 20:06:19 http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf9/Videoteam/Hardware is up2date 20:06:30 p2-mate, yes, talks have been decided but not scheduled 20:06:46 the junta has been asked for the missing hw 20:06:54 (cameras, reviewing machines) 20:07:07 we have budget to rent cameras if needed 20:07:24 we need more mics it seems 20:07:27 bwh, if you need a sata 2.5hd, we also should have budget for that, i was thinking today, "btw" 20:07:36 p2-mate, which kind? 20:07:57 at least 1 more radio mic or a wired mic for the speaker 20:08:00 h01ger: What for? 20:08:16 Womble2, to exchange the exsting one in your thinkpad.. or is that pata? 20:08:41 p2-mate, i think we should buy that then.. then we have 4 of the same kind 20:08:44 We currently have 3 mics for the speakers. Isn't that enough? 20:08:47 and i think i agree 20:08:50 h01ger: The T61 has SATA, yes 20:08:56 we have nothing for the audience then 20:09:04 Womble2, and you wanted to take the disk out, didnt you? 20:09:10 p2-mate, we do. condenser mics 20:09:19 ah. you mean passable mics 20:09:30 h01ger: no, those are the enviroment noise 20:09:31 yep 20:09:38 i'm not sure this works. i think its better if people are asked to stand up and go to the mic 20:09:39 h01ger: I need to take out the files... into a T42 which has PATA... 20:09:41 that works at cccongress 20:09:42 We don't have any for that, I think we rented them before. 20:09:52 Q_, we have budget, so we could.. 20:10:27 h01ger: nah, doesn't work. you can't really use the same settings for the environment mic vs a mic which is used for questions 20:10:30 I think that makes sense, so that we don't have to keep renting it and actually paying more than when we buy it. 20:10:30 Womble2, as said, if its easier for you to buy a hd, i think we have those 50-70e for it. better keep improving dvswitch then wasting your brain+time by copying hds :) 20:11:05 h01ger: the environment mic is not routed to the PA while the questions mic is for example 20:11:08 #info we might want to buy some passable mics. quite probable, we should just wait to see if we get the cameras for free or need to pay 20:11:13 p2-mate, right 20:11:14 h01ger: so they need to be different 20:11:24 will daven be at dc9? 20:11:29 and no, we don't want to mess with that on the fly :) 20:11:36 h01ger: Do you know if there are going to be mixers there, do we need our own? 20:11:42 because i assume p2-mate knows a lot of stuff but will also be busy with fancy embedded hw or such ;) 20:11:49 Q_, see my mail to the list 20:11:51 there is one 20:11:53 big one 20:11:54 not so much probably 20:12:01 and we have another big one and a small one 20:12:04 Is there someone traveling from US to dc9 that I could give equipment to? (pretty sure shipping overseas makes it not worth the hassle ) 20:12:07 I canceled my talk as the orga couldn't make up its mind :P 20:12:10 p2-mate, not so much embeddded or audio 20:12:16 p2-mate, arg 20:12:17 not so much embedded 20:12:24 h01ger: Right, so we actually don't need the small one. 20:12:49 Q_, yes, but the lower talk room has quite a hifi setup so i will bring it anyway. its also light :) 20:12:52 we have 2 'big' mixers ? 20:13:03 p2-mate, yes. our own and the one which is there 20:13:05 I am not sure what equpment, but I do have lots of mics, mixer and a 60g 2.5 sata 20:13:16 CarlFK1, can you route that to .es? 20:13:19 p2-mate: Where big means 6 mic inputs. 20:14:02 h01ger: do we know which type the other mixer is ? 20:14:05 h01ger: when I looked into sending a twinpact to xfxf in .au, it got pretty annoying 20:14:12 Q_, there is a pic with the model on the list. if you could google that up to get the specs and put that on the wiki page.. that be awesome ;) 20:14:22 So we want to buy 1 Beyerdynamic OPUS 155 MK II SET? 20:14:27 CarlFK1, .au is not EU, but yeah 20:14:34 (So that we have a total of 4 of those.) 20:14:51 i think that would be good, yes 20:14:52 h01ger: I'll add it to the wiki. 20:16:02 Q_, yes, buy one of those. so that we are "complete" there.. its "only ~100e" anyway. 20:16:04 Q_: I think we need mics to pass around for questions. at least handheld mics. 20:16:16 wired would do too probably 20:16:21 * h01ger thinks condenser mics work for line-up people, as its different whether they are lined up or not 20:16:40 and the env noise ? 20:16:43 p2-mate, can you go to thomann.de and look up some suitable ones? 20:17:01 #topic 3. audio hw at MT good enough? 20:17:09 did anyone actually read my mail / look at the pics? :) 20:17:18 mail ? :) 20:17:19 no :) 20:17:40 i think it is, with the stuff we have 20:17:44 ah 20:17:46 but i'm no audio person 20:17:47 so 20:17:53 please read that mail 20:18:02 h01ger: I did read the email, didn't look at the pic 20:18:23 http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20090618.123057.08c23eab.en.html 20:18:24 this one 20:18:36 So would it make sense to have 4 other wireless mics? 20:18:49 But handheld in that case. 20:18:56 not sure. if we dont have the mixer to use them.. or do we? 20:19:14 #topic 4. budget 20:19:20 this includes buying audio hw :) 20:19:28 It has 6 mic inputs. 2 for the condensor pair, 2 for the speaker, 2 left 20:19:39 right 20:19:54 Q_, depends on the price, too :) 20:20:07 can you get quotes/suggestions? 20:20:24 I think there is something very simular to those sets we have now, but with a handheld mic instead. 20:20:39 * p2-mate wonders what http://layer-acht.org/mt-20090618/18062009(010).jpg is :) 20:21:05 the amplifier me thinks 20:21:12 But I just wonder how many frequeties there are, and if they'd all be different. 20:21:15 might be 20:21:26 but so many knobs for an amp ? 20:21:27 Q_, are you volunteering to research mics/prics? 20:21:29 +e 20:21:34 prices 20:21:39 ;) 20:21:41 http://layer-acht.org/mt-20090618/18062009(011).jpg 20:21:48 this looks more like an amp 20:21:51 h01ger: Remind me in the weekend. 20:22:08 Q_, interesting challenge, but will do 20:22:13 Actually, next monday would be better. :) 20:22:18 #info we are thinking about buying 4 handheld mics 20:22:33 Q_, ack 20:22:57 http://layer-acht.org/mt-20090618/18062009(007).jpg 20:23:00 has a table mic 20:23:01 #info but we should wait until we know more about the cameras, whether we need to rent or get for free 20:23:05 how many of those are there ? 20:23:16 p2-mate, re (011).jpg - i have no idea, thats why i made the pic :) 20:23:37 h01ger: yeah, I think I need a better pic to identify this thing :) 20:23:46 #topic 5. penta 20:23:56 bwh, did Ganneff give you access already? 20:24:02 no 20:24:25 Is taking care of the video projector something we're supposed to do? 20:24:27 i was thinking today, that i might want to have access and instructions too, as penta is superuberimportant and it needs to get done and ruby aint that hard... 20:24:52 Q_, no, thats general conf orga. though we need to make sure, someone is doing it, so maybe its better if we do 20:25:06 (i mailed cesar and told him, we need one) 20:25:16 we have twinpacts, so what do we need a projector for ? :) 20:25:30 Q_, http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/thread/20090621.145004.53325937.en.html 20:25:57 #info Ganneff please give bwh and me access+instructions how to hack on penta..(!) 20:26:18 this video controller is (or should be) really the core of our workflow... 20:26:20 hi tiagovaz 20:26:43 tiagovaz, http://meetbot.debian.net/debconf-video/2009/ (log) 20:26:57 #topic 6. other software issues 20:27:23 I have a feeling h01ger wants this meeting to be over soon. :) 20:27:40 that's ok :) 20:27:45 I suppose I need to add tally light support on the 0.8 branch 20:28:12 Q_, just say if you think its too fast. but i prefer to have quick team meetings, details can mostly better be solved in smaller groups 20:28:21 Womble2, right 20:28:27 should i still mail you one? 20:28:36 h01ger: (011).jpg is an amp BTW :) It even says so :) 20:28:37 i could mail it this wednesday morning... 20:28:40 h01ger: Works for me. I just had a 2hour meeting that was supposed to last 1h. 20:29:15 Womble2, i think i should. todolist++ 20:29:57 * h01ger will test installation and xfce and firewire in lenny on his r51 this week too 20:30:56 * h01ger cheers Womble2 for the no-recording-warning-frame, btw! \o/ 20:31:11 #topic 7. any other business? 20:31:13 ;-) 20:31:18 hehe 20:31:28 h01ger: as long as you are testing hardware: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13075 20:31:41 yeah, some wiring schematics of the existing audio setup might be useful 20:31:44 cat /dev/dv1394/0 >/dev/null & sudo ping -r -f -l 100 -s 2000 $ECHOSVR = kernel panic in 5 min 20:32:00 and identify the mystery device in (10).jpg 20:32:01 CarlFK1, we'll probably use .26 20:32:03 but only on one of my boxes 20:32:19 and find out how many table mics we have and if we want to use them 20:32:24 CarlFK1, with the new fw stack, right? 20:32:33 bwh, do you propose the new or old stack? 20:32:41 Womble2, i mean :) 20:32:52 Old 20:32:57 p2-mate, "some" 20:33:00 Womble2, ack 20:33:08 #info we will use the old fw stack 20:33:14 The new is fine in sid, but I think not in lenny 20:33:27 h01ger: 0 1 many ? :P 20:33:36 p2-mate, hehe 20:33:40 p2-mate, many 20:33:44 maybe 2 or 3 20:33:46 aha 20:34:11 maybe (10).jpg is some sort of preamp for those 20:34:16 but junta has more. cek+anto work in many companies i sometimes think. and MT (the venue) belongs to junta 20:34:21 could be, yes 20:34:23 which also acts as a gate 20:35:03 I du know if it's new or old. I'll stick lenny on that box and see what happens 20:36:04 #topic 8. next meeting 20:36:18 14 days? 20:36:31 though i would prefer 15, i think 20:36:33 CarlFK1: The new stack makes devices called /dev/fw0, fw1, etc. 20:37:02 when would that be ? 20:37:09 but as i see it, in two weeks more or less, is enough, isnt it? 20:37:18 july, 7th 20:37:29 9 days before debcamp 20:37:56 Given how close it is, maybe we should be meeting weekly from now on? 20:38:15 7th is ok 20:38:18 also fine with me. next tuesday? the next two monday work badly for me... 20:38:25 not 2 - 5 :) 20:38:36 I am away next Tuesday-Thursday 20:38:59 I'm away next week Thursday - sunday 20:39:06 so that would be friday, the 3rd or tuesday the 7th 20:39:16 Q_, ^ 20:39:25 I have no plans after sunday. 20:39:30 no, not the 3rd 20:39:39 p2-mate, got that :) 20:40:01 Womble2, i really think we are fine... 20:40:06 OK 20:40:09 penta is my biggest worry.. 20:40:36 #agreed next meeting tuesday the 7th, july, 20 utc 20:40:48 or different time? 20:41:35 ok. agreed 20:41:40 not later if possible :) 20:41:52 20 utc is ok 20:41:56 thank you all for attending and a productive meeting! 20:42:05 p2-mate, its 23.41 atm in .fi? 20:42:14 .42 :) 20:42:19 yep :) 20:42:28 \o/ 20:42:31 #endmeeting