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[18:01:08] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 0. agenda at http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Videoteam/Meetings<br />
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[18:01:30] &lt;h01ger&gt; please say "hi", editing the agenda is optional if you do, please tell me<br />
[18:01:35] * h01ger = Holger Levsen<br />
[18:01:57] * LarstiQ = Wouter van Heyst<br />
[18:02:14] * edrz = Eric Dantan Rzewnicki<br />
[18:02:20] * bwh = Ben Hutchings<br />
[18:03:02] &lt;h01ger&gt; Q_, karora dererk toresbe: pling<br />
[18:03:13] &lt;karora&gt; plong!<br />
[18:03:48] &lt;karora&gt; A meeting!  How convenient that I am in front of my computer :-)<br />
[18:04:04] * des _o?<br />
[18:04:07] * des _o/<br />
[18:04:14] &lt;karora&gt; Hola!<br />
[18:05:40] &lt;h01ger&gt; Meeting agenda July, 29th, 18 UTC <br />
[18:05:40] &lt;h01ger&gt;  remaining fosdem and debconf7 videos <br />
[18:05:40] &lt;h01ger&gt;  debconf8 planning <br />
[18:05:40] &lt;h01ger&gt;  required hardware + donated/loaned hardware <br />
[18:05:40] &lt;h01ger&gt;  test streams pre-debconf - streaming servers <br />
[18:05:40] &lt;h01ger&gt;  software, fai config <br />
[18:05:44] &lt;h01ger&gt;  volunteer scheduling in penta <br />
[18:05:46] &lt;h01ger&gt;  debian day <br />
[18:05:48] &lt;h01ger&gt;  any other business <br />
[18:05:50] &lt;h01ger&gt;  next meeting<br />
[18:05:52] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 1. remaining fosdem and debconf7 videos <br />
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[18:06:01] * h01ger cheers bwh <br />
[18:06:31] &lt;h01ger&gt; i checked the fosdem videos today, they are fine, except for the ogg of lazyb0ys talk. i fixed that but cannot upload atm as i lost my debconf.org passwd<br />
[18:06:53] &lt;bwh&gt; password?<br />
[18:06:54] * h01ger still wants to finish fosdem stuff before debconf :)<br />
[18:07:05] &lt;bwh&gt; what do you need a password for?<br />
[18:07:08] &lt;h01ger&gt; bwh, yes. and the mail interface to recover it didnt work<br />
[18:07:15] &lt;h01ger&gt; bwh, to login to apu, to upload<br />
[18:07:22] &lt;edrz&gt; send a key?<br />
[18:07:24] &lt;bwh&gt; mail your pub key to change@db.debconf.org (or something like that)<br />
[18:07:34] &lt;h01ger&gt; read what i wrote :)<br />
[18:07:35] &lt;bwh&gt; signed with your GPG key<br />
[18:07:49] &lt;h01ger&gt; "the mail interface to recover it didnt work"<br />
[18:07:53] &lt;edrz&gt; you wrote recover, i guess you meant reset?<br />
[18:08:02] &lt;h01ger&gt; bwh, anything to say about debconf7?<br />
[18:08:05] &lt;h01ger&gt; do you plan dvds?<br />
[18:08:08] &lt;bwh&gt; mmm, I don't *use* a password<br />
[18:08:26] &lt;bwh&gt; h01ger: Maybe, if I can find time<br />
[18:08:33] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 2. debconf8<br />
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[18:08:44] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 2.1 debconf8 - hw planning<br />
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[18:08:49] &lt;h01ger&gt; anything new to say here?<br />
[18:09:21] &lt;h01ger&gt; (bwh, same with updating ssh keys) <br />
[18:09:31] &lt;des&gt; we got a quote for the pa stuff<br />
[18:10:03] &lt;des&gt; it was way too expensive (i don't have the full details), so we'll probably go with the old one<br />
[18:10:45] &lt;edrz&gt; old PA or old quote?<br />
[18:11:13] &lt;des&gt; old quote<br />
[18:11:14] &lt;karora&gt; What differences will that mean?<br />
[18:11:21] &lt;h01ger&gt; are mics included?<br />
[18:11:26] &lt;des&gt; nothing<br />
[18:11:41] &lt;des&gt; h01ger: yes, if we want them<br />
[18:12:12] &lt;des&gt; how many do we want?<br />
[18:12:14] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, we want to 2 or 4 wireless mics to pass around in the audience. (maybe we will see that that wont work, but if they cost nothing, please get them)<br />
[18:12:17] &lt;karora&gt; What/how many mixers?<br />
[18:13:16] &lt;des&gt; I they cost, but we have the budget allocated for that<br />
[18:13:20] &lt;des&gt; s/I//<br />
[18:14:10] &lt;des&gt; So, let me re-check what we want:<br />
[18:14:12] * h01ger still thinks 4 would be cool. two for each venue and two so that passing around works<br />
[18:14:22] * karora agrees<br />
[18:14:22] &lt;des&gt; 2 sets of:<br />
[18:14:34] &lt;des&gt; 2 handheld wireless mics<br />
[18:14:49] &lt;des&gt; 2 speaker boxes<br />
[18:15:05] &lt;des&gt; ? mic stands<br />
[18:15:14] &lt;h01ger&gt; yes, mic stands!<br />
[18:15:16] &lt;h01ger&gt; 2<br />
[18:15:23] &lt;h01ger&gt; (for the condenser mics)<br />
[18:15:28] &lt;des&gt; 2 mic stands<br />
[18:15:51] &lt;des&gt; wait, total 4 mic stands?<br />
[18:15:56] &lt;h01ger&gt; no, 2<br />
[18:16:10] &lt;des&gt; oh, ok<br />
[18:16:27] &lt;h01ger&gt; as i understood the condenser mics, they are one stero set. so two xlr cables (and audio channels :) each, but one stand<br />
[18:16:34] &lt;h01ger&gt; edrz, right? ^<br />
[18:16:58] &lt;des&gt; and we only want 1 mixer?<br />
[18:17:06] &lt;h01ger&gt; yes, we have one<br />
[18:17:13] &lt;h01ger&gt; though... a sec<br />
[18:17:19] &lt;p2-mate&gt; 1 per venue<br />
[18:17:38] &lt;karora&gt; We'll want 2 mixers, won't we?<br />
[18:17:58] &lt;p2-mate&gt; 2 per venue ? why ? don't they support submixes ?<br />
[18:17:58] &lt;karora&gt; But we have one, so they supply only one, is that right?<br />
[18:18:00] &lt;des&gt; yes, but I think $someone brings one already<br />
[18:18:11] &lt;h01ger&gt; p2-mate, karora: we have one mixer<br />
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[18:18:14] &lt;h01ger&gt; http://www.thomann.de/de/behringer_xenyx_1622_fx.htm this one<br />
[18:18:15] &lt;p2-mate&gt; yes<br />
[18:18:18] &lt;karora&gt; Right.<br />
[18:18:18] &lt;h01ger&gt; which has 4 xlr inputs<br />
[18:18:21] &lt;des&gt; karora: that's right, I'm asking what should we hire<br />
[18:18:25] &lt;p2-mate&gt; ic<br />
[18:18:35] &lt;karora&gt; Yes, so we only need to hire one.<br />
[18:18:57] &lt;h01ger&gt; 2 xlr from the condenser, 1 xlr from the speaker mic, 2 xlr from the audience mics: doesnt work. bummer<br />
[18:19:12] &lt;h01ger&gt; but i dont think thats no bummer:<br />
[18:19:23] &lt;h01ger&gt; there must be converters from xlr to this mic inputs...<br />
[18:19:39] &lt;p2-mate&gt; external mic preamp<br />
[18:19:46] &lt;h01ger&gt; daven, karora, edrz: can you look at the pic at http://www.thomann.de/de/behringer_xenyx_1622_fx.htm and comment on my last three lines?<br />
[18:19:55] &lt;h01ger&gt; p2-mate, could you exlplain please?<br />
[18:20:56] &lt;p2-mate&gt; h01ger: you need a mic preamp to get the mic signal up to line level and then you could feed it to the stereo inputs of the mixer<br />
[18:20:59] &lt;des&gt; h01ger: when do you arrive?<br />
[18:21:31] &lt;p2-mate&gt; h01ger: this way you can connect the 2 condensers<br />
[18:21:39] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, tomororow in eze<br />
[18:21:44] &lt;h01ger&gt; the day after in mdq<br />
[18:21:50] * karora in BA now.<br />
[18:22:05] &lt;des&gt; karora: when are you coming to mdq?<br />
[18:22:18] &lt;p2-mate&gt; h01ger: you can also attach each one to eg the left channel of a stereo input if you want seperate EQs for the condensers<br />
[18:22:30] &lt;karora&gt; I was planning to go to mdq Saturday, but I'll need a ride with someone, or to book a bus.<br />
[18:22:35] &lt;des&gt; h01ger: maybe we can do the talking with the company that hire stuff once you are here?<br />
[18:22:43] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, if thats still in time, yes<br />
[18:22:54] &lt;des&gt; h01ger: I think it is, I'll check<br />
[18:23:04] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, so i'm there on friday <br />
[18:23:07] &lt;p2-mate&gt; h01ger: so the most important thing to get is a mic preamp<br />
[18:23:12] &lt;des&gt; h01ger: that way you could detect things like that you did up there<br />
[18:23:36] &lt;des&gt; h01ger: you don't know which time, do you?<br />
[18:23:39] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, can you ask them for a mic preamp? (instead of a mixer)<br />
[18:24:00] &lt;des&gt; so 1 mixer, 1 mic preamp?<br />
[18:24:02] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, we plan to take the bus in BA at noon on thursday. so early evening<br />
[18:24:08] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, yes. and the above list<br />
[18:24:15] &lt;des&gt; h01ger: perfect<br />
[18:24:17] &lt;h01ger&gt; <des> 2 sets of:<br />
[18:24:17] &lt;h01ger&gt; <des> 2 handheld wireless mics<br />
[18:24:17] &lt;h01ger&gt; <des> 2 speaker boxes<br />
[18:24:17] &lt;dererk&gt; h01ger, pong<br />
[18:24:23] &lt;p2-mate&gt; des: mic preamp with 2 channels !<br />
[18:24:24] &lt;h01ger&gt; <des> 2 mic stands<br />
[18:24:31] &lt;des&gt; p2-mate: noted<br />
[18:24:33] &lt;h01ger&gt; dererk, hi! its meeting time :)<br />
[18:24:36] * dererk appologies but have just arrived home from a loooog trip<br />
[18:24:52] &lt;des&gt; and the mixer should have 5 inputs?<br />
[18:24:53] &lt;p2-mate&gt; des: or 2 mic preamps with 1 channel would work as well<br />
[18:25:04] &lt;p2-mate&gt; des: 5 mic inputs with phantom power<br />
[18:25:09] &lt;dererk&gt; ( karora, hey :) how was your trip? )<br />
[18:25:13] &lt;h01ger&gt; dererk, dont worry... :)<br />
[18:25:24] &lt;karora&gt; dererk: Great so far :-)<br />
[18:25:27] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, (at least) 5 xlr inputs. yes<br />
[18:25:29] &lt;edrz&gt; h01ger: yes (regarding stereo pair)<br />
[18:25:40] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, or we need another preamp<br />
[18:25:49] &lt;h01ger&gt; edrz, so one mic stand per condenser stereo mic. good.<br />
[18:26:07] * dererk backlogs<br />
[18:26:30] &lt;h01ger&gt; anything else to say about hw planning atm?<br />
[18:26:41] &lt;h01ger&gt; Yoe got the cable from herman..<br />
[18:26:46] &lt;p2-mate&gt; des: 2x http://www.thomann.de/de/behringer_mic_800.htm would be ok for example<br />
[18:26:56] &lt;h01ger&gt; p2-mate, we only want one mixer<br />
[18:27:04] &lt;h01ger&gt; we dont need to throw money out of the window<br />
[18:27:07] &lt;p2-mate&gt; h01ger: euh ?<br />
[18:27:16] &lt;edrz&gt; h01ger: the speaker mic doesn't need an xlr input on the mixer<br />
[18:27:17] &lt;h01ger&gt; p2-mate, we only want one mixer - if we get a preamp thingie<br />
[18:27:26] &lt;h01ger&gt; edrz, rrrrrrrrrright<br />
[18:27:41] &lt;h01ger&gt; p2-mate, we have^wown a http://www.thomann.de/de/behringer_xenyx_1622_fx.htm<br />
[18:27:41] &lt;p2-mate&gt; h01ger: I'm missing something<br />
[18:27:45] &lt;p2-mate&gt; h01ger: yes<br />
[18:27:50] &lt;h01ger&gt; so we only need one mixer<br />
[18:27:55] &lt;p2-mate&gt; h01ger: but one does not have enough mic inputs ?<br />
[18:27:58] &lt;p2-mate&gt; h01ger: yes<br />
[18:28:00] &lt;h01ger&gt; p2-mate, it does<br />
[18:28:04] &lt;p2-mate&gt; h01ger: oh ?<br />
[18:28:09] &lt;h01ger&gt; des: we also need two PAs<br />
[18:28:12] &lt;p2-mate&gt; 4 is enough ?<br />
[18:28:12] &lt;karora&gt; h01ger: p2-mate is not linking to a mixer.<br />
[18:28:13] &lt;h01ger&gt; p2-mate, what edrz just said<br />
[18:28:19] &lt;h01ger&gt; karora, eparse<br />
[18:28:22] &lt;edrz&gt; we don't need mic preamps.<br />
[18:28:25] &lt;p2-mate&gt; edrz: oh <br />
[18:28:37] &lt;p2-mate&gt; edrz: the speaker mic does linelevel ?<br />
[18:28:38] &lt;edrz&gt; the wireless receiver outputs line level<br />
[18:28:41] &lt;p2-mate&gt; ah <br />
[18:28:42] &lt;p2-mate&gt; great<br />
[18:28:46] &lt;dererk&gt; Well, as planned, I'm meeting xerakko on friday to take his mic. no news<br />
[18:28:49] &lt;p2-mate&gt; then it's ok :)<br />
[18:28:55] &lt;dererk&gt; uhm, nice lags<br />
[18:29:14] &lt;p2-mate&gt; so scrap both<br />
[18:29:18] &lt;h01ger&gt; actually, i just checked the wireless mic:<br />
[18:29:43] &lt;h01ger&gt; it has an xlr output (balanced out) and an mic plug output (unballanced out) - what does ballanced mean here?<br />
[18:30:18] &lt;p2-mate&gt; h01ger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanced_audio<br />
[18:30:19] &lt;h01ger&gt; but so the 1622 is ok as a mixer (if unballanced out is fine...)<br />
[18:30:38] &lt;p2-mate&gt; h01ger: basically differential signalling<br />
[18:31:05] &lt;h01ger&gt; p2-mate, executive summary, please: can we use it (sensible)?<br />
[18:31:18] &lt;p2-mate&gt; h01ger: you can<br />
[18:31:21] &lt;h01ger&gt; cool<br />
[18:31:24] &lt;karora&gt; Enough already!  Alles gut!  Todo bien!<br />
[18:31:28] &lt;h01ger&gt; karora, yes<br />
[18:31:29] &lt;edrz&gt; h01ger: balanced xlr can go to balance TRS in<br />
[18:31:44] &lt;des&gt; ok, so no mic preamp<br />
[18:32:01] &lt;karora&gt; Si<br />
[18:32:01] &lt;des&gt; just 1 mixer 4 mic inputs with phantom power<br />
[18:32:05] &lt;h01ger&gt; des: are you there? did you get, that a.) we only need one mixer. b.) we dont need preamps c.) we need two PAs d.) i'll still be there on friday :)<br />
[18:32:37] &lt;karora&gt; des: Exactamente :-)<br />
[18:32:51] &lt;h01ger&gt; if des received that, i'd suggest next point :)<br />
[18:33:10] &lt;des&gt; h01ger: I'm here, a) yes, 4 inputs b) yes c) PAs?, isn't that the speaker boxes I mentioned already? d) yes<br />
[18:33:32] &lt;des&gt; or does PA includes anything els?<br />
[18:33:45] &lt;karora&gt; No.  The 'speaker boxes' will be the thing.<br />
[18:33:49] &lt;h01ger&gt; des,  between the mixer and the boxes usually needs to be a PA. there a boxes with PAs included<br />
[18:34:10] &lt;h01ger&gt; PA is a amplifier. the stage version of a hifi-amplifier at home<br />
[18:34:24] &lt;des&gt; oh, I see<br />
[18:34:25] &lt;karora&gt; Well, you can check on Friday, but the speakers probably have PA internally.<br />
[18:34:34] &lt;h01ger&gt; ok. next then<br />
[18:34:41] &lt;des&gt; ok, then I'll check, speakers with that or plus that<br />
[18:34:55] &lt;h01ger&gt; right, wait: des, muchas gracias!!<br />
[18:35:10] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 2.2 debconf8 - test streams pre-debconf <br />
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[18:35:43] &lt;p2-mate&gt; des: basically you need to go from line level to speakers, so either the speakers come with builting amplifiers or there is a seperate amplifier box. the first scenario is more likely though for the sort of PA system we need.<br />
[18:36:08] &lt;des&gt; p2-mate: yes, I get, thanks<br />
[18:36:20] &lt;h01ger&gt; i cannot configure apu as i dont have my passwd. Ganneff/mhy/sgran will fix that, but are visiting BA now and then travel to MDQ. when the fixed it, i will be on the way to BA. so probably not before maņana late evening<br />
[18:36:38] &lt;h01ger&gt; so we will need to live with the test setup at edrz for some more hours or days.<br />
[18:37:11] &lt;h01ger&gt; edrz, you havent commited the configs yet, did you?<br />
[18:37:17] &lt;edrz&gt; no, not yet.<br />
[18:37:22] &lt;edrz&gt; hopefully tonight.<br />
[18:37:44] &lt;h01ger&gt; edrz, alternativly we could already put your test stream at home into the topic of #debconf. if you can deal with the traffic :)<br />
[18:37:45] &lt;edrz&gt; but, if we don't get it going until saturday or sunday it's probably still ok.<br />
[18:37:52] &lt;h01ger&gt; i think so too<br />
[18:38:11] &lt;h01ger&gt; a week of client testing should definitly be^w^w^wis fine. <br />
[18:38:17] &lt;edrz&gt; h01ger: I would rather not stream my unfinished basement to the world<br />
[18:38:22] &lt;h01ger&gt; next point?<br />
[18:38:24] &lt;edrz&gt; sure.<br />
[18:38:25] &lt;h01ger&gt; edrz, point taken :)<br />
[18:38:38] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 2.3 debconf8 - software, fai config<br />
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[18:39:07] &lt;daven&gt; one sec<br />
[18:39:24] &lt;h01ger&gt; i have the src packages on my laptop and will build them while flying or driving the bus. also then, i'll update the fai configspace. there is a todo list inside the fai config space..<br />
[18:39:30] &lt;h01ger&gt; daven, go ahead<br />
[18:40:11] &lt;edrz&gt; h01ger: can you grab libshout3-2.2.2-5, instead?<br />
[18:40:33] &lt;h01ger&gt; karora, btw, as this also relevant to streaming servers (which was the previous topic): contact Ganneff/weasel, how to get the logfiles from the streaming servers so you can do nice statistics, using munin and without munin :)<br />
[18:40:40] &lt;h01ger&gt; edrz, sure. from where?<br />
[18:40:43] &lt;daven&gt; what mic are you using for audience?<br />
[18:40:44] &lt;edrz&gt; it's in lenny/sid, the one in jonas' repo is -4 and has a buggy patch applied<br />
[18:40:56] &lt;h01ger&gt; daven, condenser mic and 2 wireless mics to pass around<br />
[18:41:00] &lt;daven&gt; ok<br />
[18:41:06] &lt;h01ger&gt; edrz, ok<br />
[18:41:06] &lt;karora&gt; h01ger: I was planning to start on that when I get to MDQ on Saturday,<br />
[18:41:09] &lt;daven&gt; the condenser mics hired locally, I take it<br />
[18:41:19] &lt;h01ger&gt; karora, cool. (i remembered, but thought i tell you anyway :)<br />
[18:41:20] &lt;edrz&gt; no, purchased for debconf-vidoe<br />
[18:41:23] &lt;edrz&gt; video<br />
[18:41:23] &lt;h01ger&gt; daven, no, we bought 2<br />
[18:41:30] &lt;edrz&gt; 2 pairs, that is.<br />
[18:41:39] &lt;daven&gt; :s/condenser/radio audience mics<br />
[18:42:13] &lt;h01ger&gt; next?<br />
[18:42:22] &lt;edrz&gt; h01ger: i would also like to be able to get to the logfiles, once we get things running.<br />
[18:42:36] &lt;edrz&gt; just a sec,<br />
[18:42:50] &lt;edrz&gt; ffmpeg2theora 0.21 has been tested and fixes the lfs issue<br />
[18:42:57] &lt;h01ger&gt; edrz, i guess karora will collect them in a single location, hopefully a debconf.org host of the video team :)<br />
[18:43:06] &lt;edrz&gt; and icecast 2.3.2 i have not yet managed to crash on amd64.<br />
[18:43:24] &lt;edrz&gt; h01ger: sounds good.<br />
[18:43:29] &lt;h01ger&gt; edrz, as someone (you? :) wrote on http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf8/Videoteam/Software :)<br />
[18:43:35] &lt;h01ger&gt; next?<br />
[18:43:36] &lt;edrz&gt; yes<br />
[18:44:00] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 2.4 debconf8 - volunteer scheduling in penta<br />
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[18:44:10] &lt;edrz&gt; yes, that was me.<br />
[18:44:10] &lt;des&gt; still todo sorry<br />
[18:44:52] &lt;des&gt; I'll probably do it after today<br />
[18:44:59] &lt;edrz&gt; no need to be sorry. you've been doing lots.<br />
[18:44:59] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, any news? i saw on irc here that bwh / Womble2 commented a bit on penta stuff, but that was only encoding right?<br />
[18:44:59] &lt;h01ger&gt; we need volunteer scheduling before encoding (for debconf8 - for debconf7 we needed encoded now :)<br />
[18:44:59] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, ok.<br />
[18:44:59] &lt;h01ger&gt; cool<br />
[18:45:22] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, please do, as we will need to test it before making it public. and what edrz just said<br />
[18:45:41] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 2.5 - debconf8 - debianday<br />
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[18:45:46] &lt;des&gt; ok :)<br />
[18:46:21] * h01ger hugs des. y tranquilo. stay healthy & happy too :) at least try ;)<br />
[18:46:29] &lt;h01ger&gt; any news on debianday?<br />
[18:46:50] &lt;dererk&gt; Unfortunately, not any <br />
[18:47:05] &lt;des&gt; more options<br />
[18:47:07] &lt;dererk&gt; It's highly possible that we'll have to rent a place :/<br />
[18:47:14] &lt;h01ger&gt; hmok. will we be able to take some computers to debianday? (from debconf?)<br />
[18:47:27] &lt;dererk&gt; Uhm<br />
[18:47:27] &lt;des&gt; yes we'll probably rent just to settle it asap<br />
[18:47:37] &lt;h01ger&gt; and the 4 cameras?<br />
[18:47:48] &lt;dererk&gt; I'm not sure<br />
[18:48:04] &lt;dererk&gt; It's something we didn't talked with the cameras'guys<br />
[18:48:14] &lt;dererk&gt; talk*<br />
[18:48:16] &lt;h01ger&gt; would be great if you could find out. the cameras are obviously more important (as we could just not stream).<br />
[18:48:23] * dererk waits for AOB<br />
[18:48:25] &lt;des&gt; we need to talk with the owner, computers shouldn't be a problem<br />
[18:48:31] &lt;h01ger&gt; the computers would be nice too, but we need cams :)<br />
[18:48:35] &lt;h01ger&gt; ack<br />
[18:48:52] &lt;h01ger&gt; and if all goes bad, the videoteam can enjoy debianday without work. not the worst option ;)<br />
[18:49:08] &lt;dererk&gt; lol<br />
[18:49:10] &lt;Q_&gt; *ponder*<br />
[18:49:14] &lt;Q_&gt; Was the meeting today?<br />
[18:49:14] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 3. any other business<br />
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[18:49:15] &lt;p2-mate&gt; hehe<br />
[18:49:15] &lt;p2-mate&gt; and have a beer ! :)<br />
[18:49:16] &lt;edrz&gt; i'm somewhat uncertain that we can get everything torn down in MDQ and set up in BA in time<br />
[18:49:18] * karora can help set up but will need to go to EZE on debian day<br />
[18:49:21] &lt;h01ger&gt; Q_, yeah :)<br />
[18:49:22] &lt;edrz&gt; without killing ourselves in the process.<br />
[18:49:27] &lt;dererk&gt; here, I talked with the cameras' guy, and I asked about any extras MIC/stands/etc and he told me he could only know about them in <br />
[18:49:35] &lt;dererk&gt; err<br />
[18:49:43] &lt;Q_&gt; Let's read it fast.<br />
[18:49:45] &lt;dererk&gt; here, I talked with the cameras' guy, and I asked about any extras MIC/stands/etc and he told me he could only know about them in the moment<br />
[18:49:57] &lt;dererk&gt; ok, I hate you ENTER key<br />
[18:50:03] &lt;h01ger&gt; :)<br />
[18:50:54] &lt;h01ger&gt; so, no more other business?<br />
[18:51:07] &lt;des&gt; dererk: buy a keyboard with a RETURN key, then ;-p<br />
[18:51:33] &lt;edrz&gt; I want an "ANY" key.<br />
[18:51:44] &lt;dererk&gt; ok, ok, laugh about me :(<br />
[18:51:44] &lt;p2-mate&gt; :)<br />
[18:51:45] &lt;Q_&gt; How exactly are you going to mount 2 mics on 1 mic stand?<br />
[18:51:48] &lt;karora&gt; edrz: Do I have an xmodmap for you...<br />
[18:51:53] &lt;dererk&gt; but you could have childs like me!<br />
[18:52:24] &lt;edrz&gt; Q_: the stereo pairs come with a stereo mic mount.<br />
[18:52:36] &lt;p2-mate&gt; Q_: using a stereo mic mount<br />
[18:53:00] &lt;karora&gt; IRC in stereo too :-)<br />
[18:53:08] &lt;dererk&gt; lol<br />
[18:53:17] &lt;h01ger&gt; Q_, karora, dererk, des: when do you arrive in MDQ? xerakko rather late, edrz early like me and tassie is not here... /me is already thinking about the next point, next meeting :) i guess friday afternoon in RL, saturday noon in RL, sunday in RL...<br />
[18:53:28] &lt;h01ger&gt; any other business to discuss?<br />
[18:53:31] * dererk arrives on Saturday Morning<br />
[18:53:36] &lt;edrz&gt; Q_: http://www.thomann.de/gb/beyerdynamic_mce530_stereoset.htm<br />
[18:53:46] * des is @ mdq already<br />
[18:53:55] &lt;des&gt; in fact, in our server room<br />
[18:54:01] * karora will endeavour to find someone in BA to cadge a lift to MDQ with (dererk?) on Saturday morning...<br />
[18:54:12] * edrz arrives friday night<br />
[18:54:16] &lt;p2-mate&gt; karora: or take the bus ?<br />
[18:54:17] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, :)<br />
[18:54:24] &lt;karora&gt; p2-mate: Si.<br />
[18:54:25] &lt;des&gt; karora: there are plenty of ppl coming, just join #debian-ar and ask<br />
[18:54:47] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 4. next meeting<br />
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[18:55:08] &lt;des&gt; in fact http://tutatis.dc8.debconf.org:8008/<br />
[18:55:21] &lt;des&gt; hi, v-t ;-P<br />
[18:55:25] &lt;edrz&gt; h01ger: what do you mean RL? what's not real about irc?<br />
[18:55:28] &lt;dererk&gt; karora, unfortunatelly I'm travelling in a **very** small car. I'm seriously thinking about changing my plans<br />
[18:55:34] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, hehe, lol + cool<br />
[18:55:35] &lt;karora&gt; Friday afternoon might be better, if there are last-minute things which might need to be brought.<br />
[18:55:40] &lt;karora&gt; dererk: OK.<br />
[18:55:44] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, who is the other person?<br />
[18:55:50] &lt;des&gt; h01ger: zer0mdq<br />
[18:56:08] &lt;h01ger&gt; ah.<br />
[18:56:39] &lt;h01ger&gt; so next meeting, probably saturday noon in RL?!!<br />
[18:56:43] &lt;dererk&gt; :D<br />
[18:57:31] &lt;Q_&gt; I've seen the stero mic and gave it to luk.  I know it has this plate where you can mount 2 mics on, I just wonder how you mount it on the mic stand.  I guess it's also just with a screw to that plate.<br />
[18:57:57] &lt;h01ger&gt; #agreed next meeting, probably saturday noon in RL<br />
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[18:58:00] * dererk thinking in taking h01ger+amayas places out of the car :-)<br />
[18:58:03] &lt;p2-mate&gt; des: one thing about the PA, try to get one which supports balanced inputs<br />
[18:58:27] &lt;h01ger&gt; #idea maybe have a irc meeting while in mdq as quite some people will not go to .ar<br />
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[18:58:30] &lt;Q_&gt; h01ger: luk has most of the stuff, I have 1 headphone and the radio mic.<br />
[18:58:39] &lt;h01ger&gt; dererk, feel free & have a good trip :)<br />
[18:58:51] &lt;h01ger&gt; Q_, you arrive on the same day with luk? or he earlier?<br />
[18:58:57] &lt;Q_&gt; He's earlier<br />
[18:59:09] &lt;dererk&gt; h01ger, haha j/k <br />
[18:59:10] &lt;h01ger&gt; ok. <br />
[18:59:13] &lt;Q_&gt; I think he arrived on monday or thuesday<br />
[18:59:28] &lt;Q_&gt; While I will arrive very late on thursday<br />
[18:59:34] &lt;des&gt; p2-mate: mmm.. ok<br />
[18:59:44] &lt;h01ger&gt; Q_, good choice to give luk that stuff. luckily madduck is also early, so we will have everything at least once quite early<br />
[18:59:49] &lt;p2-mate&gt; des: normally that should not be a problem<br />
[18:59:58] &lt;des&gt; p2-mate: ok<br />
[19:00:03] * h01ger suggests to do #endmeeting to meet the hour :)<br />
[19:00:15] &lt;h01ger&gt; thank you all for attending!<br />
[19:00:19] &lt;h01ger&gt; #endmeeting<br />
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