18:00:13 #startmeeting 18:00:13 Meeting started Mon Jun 7 18:00:13 2021 UTC. The chair is nattie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:13 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:18 #topic roll call 18:00:25 * amacater is here 18:00:31 o/ 18:00:37 salutations 18:01:07 hi! 18:01:45 anyone else? 18:01:51 Hey 18:02:01 wait for the roll call, she said 18:02:44 Jegliches hat, as they say, seine Zeit 18:02:54 #topic last meeting's actions 18:03:42 mollydb: you've written the mail for community team, right? 18:04:05 nattie: yes! 18:04:11 #info mail to encourage people to join community team is written, yet to be sent 18:04:15 Where should it be sent? 18:04:25 we'll do that in the community team item :) 18:04:31 thumbsup 18:04:46 tumbleweed: have you set deadlines and things in wafer? 18:05:07 yes! 18:05:09 he has, esp. things 18:05:19 #info deadlines for shirts, etc. are set in wafer 18:05:27 things are important 18:05:38 #topic Community Team 18:05:42 now :) 18:05:57 hi 18:06:03 where shall we send this mail? 18:06:47 debconf-announce, elsewhere? 18:06:58 That's what I'm wondering. Since we want people familiar with Incident Response and/or DebConf, a debconf specific list makes sense 18:07:47 debconf-announce then 18:08:06 it still reaches a quite broad audience 18:08:23 any other places it could be sent in addition? 18:08:27 do I have the power to do that or does someone else need to? 18:08:54 mollydb: it just needs a signed email (same as d-d-a) 18:08:55 inline sign it and it will go through 18:09:40 I can do that 18:10:00 #action mollydb to send email to debconf-announce encouraging people to join the Community Team 18:10:20 mollydb, amacater: can you be here for the next meeting to let us know how response has been, then? 18:10:26 nattie: sure! 18:10:29 yay! 18:10:35 Yes 18:10:52 #topic sponsorship tiers: where are we? 18:10:57 DLange: the floor is yours 18:11:33 we fixed the sponsorship tiers to be the same as DC20 because some people communicated like that upfront 18:11:45 so no good option to change these any more 18:12:00 #info sponsorship tiers remain the same as for DC20 18:12:02 we will offer package deals for existing sponsors again the same as DC20 18:12:27 #info existing sponsors will receive the same conditions as previously 18:12:43 does that sound accurate, as i've written it? 18:12:52 is there anyone that should be removed at this point? or are we good? 18:12:55 yes 18:13:43 #topic logo/artwork selection 18:14:34 so, we've had some voting https://salsa.debian.org/debconf-team/public/data/dc21-online/-/issues/7#note_241931 18:15:07 the current leader is option F 18:15:22 some of the votes look like designer's friends 18:15:28 and some of the votes didn't vote for *any* option 18:15:33 so, pinch of salt needed 18:15:49 I just want to say that I don't like voting open to random people on the internet 18:16:08 +1 18:16:15 also we wanted to distance ourselves from the "contest" model, but then we kind of did that? 18:16:21 we can select just the votes from people we consider to be team 18:16:50 or, we can look at the results, nominate a choice, and decide it here and now 18:17:00 I asked to some people from Brazil to vote, for instance, DC19 logo creater 18:17:10 the swirl heart seems to be popular, and the curve seems to be popular 18:17:25 so swirl heart on a curve, with option for diversity, perhaps? 18:18:28 hello 18:18:36 the swirl heart gives me pain looking at the broken base line kerning every time 18:18:52 is there a meeting tonight ? 18:18:55 Though any such logo should also work well enough in monochrome 18:19:01 yes, running, zleap 18:19:05 ok cool 18:19:07 zleap: yes, and it started 19 minutes ago 18:19:14 sorry i am late 18:20:09 i would prefer a version of the logo where the numbers don't go through the curve but sit above it 18:20:34 because to me, going through the curve breaks up the rainbow 18:21:05 which is very 2020 / 2021. Metaphorically 18:21:48 surely we're trying to send the message that through diversity we're strong and will prevail? 18:22:16 dunno, to me this is a technical conference and not a LGBT one 18:22:37 so I'm not too much into rainbows everywhere 18:22:56 but I don't mind them either. I do mind broken fonts as in (F). 18:22:59 I think for this year, we could don't use the raibown again 18:23:11 I agree. They look nice, but don't have to be everywhere 18:23:28 that'd make options A and F the strong contenders, to me 18:24:12 I don't care as long as we don't have the mask + blood stains 18:24:27 +1 on the latter part 18:24:33 F has a clearer 2 18:24:33 A seems mostly good, though i think it should be slightly more obviously a 2 18:25:16 the ideia to draw a heart came from Valessio, because in his opinion, we are in a moment to show our love to people that loose someone 18:25:51 I find it not elegant that G-I have to repeat the number 21 in the text. The text there is too long. 18:26:01 I like the heart idea but we'd need to fix the baseline (the triangle made of the bottom strokes) 18:26:21 (I like the idea, though) 18:26:29 tzafrir: yes, the 21 could be dropped in the text 18:26:57 I suggest we apoint someone to own/approve the final logo (and get designers to make it right) 18:27:07 DLange: if the issue is just the baseline, surely that can be tweaked a bit in practice, anyway 18:27:26 nattie: yes they can. But the also need to. 18:28:36 so now it feels like option G with some modifications for font, etc? 18:29:02 if we can agree on that, I'd be fine with it 18:29:14 that sounds like modifications indiebio was tracking earlier, I wonder if she can shepard that over the line 18:29:21 (also need to check that the fonts are Free) 18:29:36 indeed 18:29:51 and ideally carry the design through to website colours and layout 18:30:05 action indiebio and me 18:30:11 either of us will do it 18:30:58 shall i first put an agreed that the final design should be based on option G? 18:31:18 we can have a quick +1 / -1 on that one here 18:31:21 +1 from me 18:31:26 +1 from me 18:31:43 so we made a vote, the winners were A and F, and we are picking G? :-) 18:32:00 +1 18:32:57 +1 18:33:03 +1 18:33:15 amacater, pwaring, mollydb ^ your votes are missing 18:33:25 was that a -1, terceiro? 18:33:28 -1 18:33:50 * amacater has no opinion 18:34:14 no eye for these things 18:34:24 -1, but I don't think we need a consensus 18:34:32 terceiro: from my pov, I saw the vote as a poll. If I'd wanted the result to be binding, I would have selected voters 18:34:45 fair enough 18:35:21 we have 5 : 1 : 2 here, so we can go with G fixed if we want to 18:35:36 or we discuss this another round or set up a proper vote 18:35:39 I'm happy to +1 a fixed G :p 18:35:48 6 : 1 : 2 now :) 18:36:35 ok, i'm putting an agreed for G with modifications 18:37:04 #agreed DC21 artwork to be based on option G with slight modifications for kerning 18:37:20 #action indiebio and DLange to arrive at these modifications 18:37:26 good on this? 18:37:55 #topic registration status 18:37:59 Registration is open! 18:38:08 if you haven't registered, go register! 18:38:39 #link https://debconf21.debconf.org/register/step-0 Go register if you haven't 18:38:47 tumbleweed: do you have any stats already? 18:39:13 yeah: https://debconf21.debconf.org/register/statistics/ 18:39:38 payments have been coming in 18:39:47 and 150 odd people registered 18:39:49 registration is open? 18:39:53 #link https://debconf21.debconf.org/register/statistics/ 18:40:00 andi89gi: yes 18:40:03 andi89gi: yep! since a few days ago 18:40:07 did see some errors in the log that we haven't got to the bottom of, yet 18:40:11 as in Sunday 18:40:12 but nothing significant 18:40:36 nattie: cool - then I'll do it 18:41:00 * nattie thinks we should pay particular attention to the food statistics 18:41:02 some people were confused by AoE, we'll have improved explanations, soon 18:41:22 DLange, tumbleweed: jumping in: I'm quite happy to handle any bursary request for amounts in euros (or other currency if Jonathan approves) 18:41:23 maybe we should have made state/province optional? (Q_ seemed to think so) 18:41:35 not sure what restrictions the couriers will be under 18:41:41 saw the quote in github issue, didn't find the time to reply, sorry 18:41:42 peb: thanks! 18:41:49 you're welcome 18:41:52 peb: ok to stick an action on you for that? 18:41:57 I saw some stripe payments comming in btw 18:42:05 nattie: what do you mean? :) 18:42:18 nattie: no action needed 18:42:22 peb: will be USD 50 typically 18:42:24 OK fair enough 18:42:32 (that's what the wafer system tells people) 18:42:35 DLange: Stripe? yep, i'm used to now :p 18:42:47 awesome 18:42:49 I was just warning that... It works!(TM) 18:42:55 i got one 200$ already 18:43:01 and 6 50$ I think 18:43:12 hurrah! 18:43:19 those go on the fundraising team 18:43:33 sent supporters to register for the paying options 18:43:39 easier than separate invoices :) 18:44:12 anything more about registration for the moment? 18:44:21 DLange: and more confusing when we do the books :P 18:44:31 what's the T-Shirt deadline? 18:44:40 25th of July, i believe 18:44:50 o.k., make it an #info? 18:45:03 #info deadline to register for a t-shirt is 25 July 18:45:14 DLange: should i categorize differently the first 50USD or not? 18:45:16 thanks! 18:45:16 nattie: Where can we register? 18:45:42 andi89gi: https://debconf21.debconf.org/register/step-0 18:45:44 peb: nah, all fine, we don't have to pay taxes differently on which cost center we account to 18:45:47 * amacater is registered 18:46:29 nattie: done here, from my PoV 18:46:39 #topic Scheduling the next meeting 18:46:57 2 weeks from now puts us on the 21st. woo yay, midsummer! 18:47:09 it's not 18:47:19 or midwinter 18:47:34 for those of a southerly disposition 18:47:46 :) 18:48:00 * nattie will remember to be geographically inclusive :) 18:48:06 ah not for me ;) Germany - half German/half Filipino :D 18:49:23 I think biweekly is good enough for now, so that's it 18:49:29 +1 18:49:36 * nattie leaves the midsummer/midwinter decision up to individual choice 18:49:41 same time, same channel? 18:49:54 #agreed next meeting 21 June 2021, 18:00 UTC 18:50:00 #topic AOB 18:50:10 anything else before i close? 18:50:47 nattie - do you want a song written? 18:51:13 or at least lyrics 18:51:51 if you wish to write something, that's entirely up to you :) 18:52:39 depending on the lyrics you envision ... be sure to talk to her husband first :) 18:53:32 i think we can call it now - thanks everyone for attending! 18:53:34 #endmeeting