17:59:16 #startmeeting 17:59:16 Meeting started Mon Aug 31 17:59:16 2020 UTC. The chair is nattie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:59:16 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:59:35 how ready are we feeling to do a full postmortem today? 17:59:51 71% here 17:59:58 there are no agenda items AFAICS 18:00:03 totally, what else to do on a lovely monday evening 18:00:10 I thought I added minidebconfs to it... hmmm 18:00:45 should we just do a very quick thing this week, and do the full postmortem next week? 18:00:52 #topic rollcall 18:01:02 hola, estoy aquí 18:01:04 o/ 18:01:05 o/ 18:01:08 * pollo is lurking 18:01:21 * DLange calls roll 18:01:34 * nattie wonders why the Brötchen is ringing 18:01:52 it's very suspicious, i'm not picking that up 18:01:59 #topic all other business 18:02:11 what's the Brötchen? 18:02:12 #info DebConf20 happened online! 18:02:20 highvoltage: german for bread roll 18:02:22 * olasd belatedly waves 18:02:32 * larjona too 18:02:35 hi 18:02:40 I have a question 18:02:43 go for it 18:02:48 larjona: ^^ 18:03:22 When is it expeced to destroy the online pads? And if.we should move content somewhere or "it will be done by..." 18:03:46 i think that may be a video-related question? 18:03:49 tumbleweed would know 18:03:50 pollo, olasd? 18:03:51 ah 18:04:08 all I know is that we'll archive the pads before destroying them 18:04:08 we'll be backing up the pads 18:04:28 (and make the archived copy available as a link from the talks page) 18:04:37 Ok, thanks 18:04:50 I do not know who will do it or when that will happen, but it's a concern that we'll be handling 18:04:51 :) 18:05:05 #info etherpads will be archived before being destroyed 18:05:48 any other bits to discuss that can't wait until next week? 18:06:21 Hi everybody! :) 18:06:43 hi jathan! 18:07:26 is there anything that we need to discuss on a broader basis? 18:07:30 shall we agree to adjourn until next week, to allow for rest and prep? 18:07:55 this meeting clearly surprised us a bit 18:07:58 nattie: How was your Sunday? How was the first post DebConf day? :) 18:08:25 CAre to hear a talker's perspective? 18:08:37 shachar: go for it 18:08:54 First of all, I did not pre-record. My experience might be a part of it 18:09:22 Luckily, I had one eye on IRC, or I wouldn't have noticed that the video was stuck, and later that I was talking with a mic muted 18:09:37 o/ late but here 18:09:39 IT seems some of the streaming channels didn't work as well as others 18:10:07 Otherwise, however, the IRC was a good feedback channel. I had a very good rough idea how well what I was saying was coming across 18:10:18 I also liked some of the questions on the pad 18:10:39 That would, however, require a shorter delay that 1 minute. 18:10:49 And that's all I had to say about that 18:10:57 thank you very much shachar! 18:10:58 shachar: maybe you know about it but if you'd like, there's also an official feedback address to feedback@debconf.org 18:11:12 #info send feedback to feedback@debconf.org 18:11:45 I had a horrible load at work up until Tuesday, so I was really out of it for most of the conference 18:11:47 FWIW, we got a mail also in feedback@ 18:11:50 anything else before we adjourn? 18:12:01 if somebody is interested and is not getting it, please ask to be added 18:12:08 I can confirm the stream delay was a major issue. Some people were clever and said in their intro "watch on rtmp if you want to discuss with us" 18:12:14 I was planning of sending an intermission video playing the sax :-) 18:12:28 you should have done that! 18:12:30 DLange: that was also the video team's advice, written on the even pages 18:12:36 even*t* 18:12:48 DLange, as it was, I never even got around to sending a group photo 18:12:50 shachar: sure, there will likely be another loopy in November 18:12:53 olasd: yes and good advice! 18:13:12 highvoltage, cool! By then I might actually know how to play :-D 18:13:34 olasd: is there a technical issue why the HLS segments could not be (significantly) shorter? 18:13:42 shachar: good luck 18:13:44 Does that add too much load or so? 18:13:59 DLange: not really, no; I think nginx-rtmp supports going down to 2 seconds / segment 18:14:10 oh wow 18:14:24 * shachar develops at work video streaming at 150ms round-trip latency 18:14:25 DLange: HLS ? 18:14:31 http live streaming 18:14:37 oh! 18:14:38 not FOSS, unfortunately 18:14:51 what isn't shachar? 18:14:53 what we use to display a live video player in the event website 18:15:02 out low latency solution 18:15:02 gwolf: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Live_Streaming 18:15:18 shachar: make it FLOSS please :D 18:15:46 DLange, Not my call, I'm afraid. I will probably be able to open source the micro-threading library, though 18:15:47 anyway, shachar, thanks for the feedback! 18:16:04 I'm not sure what you mean, hls, nginx-rtmp and our low latency streams were done with free software *shrugs* 18:16:44 highvoltage: shachar develops one in his day job that is not FLOSS 18:16:49 aah 18:17:09 nattie: what's next? 18:17:18 is there any other business for this meeting? 18:17:19 hah 18:17:28 Okay, my work product is a: not relevant, and b: confusing to this conversation. I apologize for bringing it up. 18:17:29 there isn't anything on the agenda - i was going to suggest adjourning for now and having a more detailed meeting next week 18:17:41 oh I thought I added the minidebconfs to the agenda 18:17:55 i legitimately don't see them there, but we can have a quick mention 18:17:58 but I supposed that can wait 18:18:13 #info there are several minidebconfs in the offing! 18:18:48 details to follow, as we try to coordinate between the different teams what happens when 18:18:57 I heard the video team plans to "keep the lights on" for some time so Mini-DCs can use the current stack? 18:19:16 DLange: i think that's also yet to be discussed in detail 18:19:34 aah, o.k., thanks! 18:19:55 shall we call it for today? 18:20:30 (someone please +1 so i can put an #agreed in good conscience?) 18:20:32 DLange: nah 18:20:32 * gwolf +1s calling it for today. 18:20:38 gwolf: gracias! 18:20:41 DLange: it's going down after everything is removed 18:20:50 #agreed a more detailed meeting to follow next week 18:20:54 same time, same channel? 18:21:04 DLange: video team hasn't committed to anything yet for the minidebconfs, but it will come up in the next videoteam meating 18:21:05 same reasons, same people... 18:21:26 everyone good with 1800 UTC next Monday? 18:21:33 sure 18:21:43 o.k., cool thanks for the clarification, highvoltage 18:21:50 #agreed next meeting 7 September, 18:00 UTC 18:21:58 and on that note, i bid you all... 18:22:01 #endmeeting