17:59:22 #startmeeting 17:59:22 Meeting started Mon Aug 17 17:59:22 2020 UTC. The chair is nattie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:59:22 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:59:28 #topic roll call 17:59:33 o/ 17:59:36 as ever, do the needful, give a holler 17:59:45 o/ nattie \o 18:00:04 hi 18:00:04 o/ 18:00:22 * anisa holleeeers 18:00:31 wow, we're popular today 18:00:40 o/ 18:00:59 * pollo lurks 18:01:05 can i ask what AH is ? 18:01:16 Anti Harassement (team) 18:01:18 bittin^: antiharrassment, now known as the community team 18:01:24 nattie: DLange: ah thanks 18:01:45 #topic procedure for Anti-Harrassment and Code of Conduct 18:01:59 (i've put the full form for the sake of the minutes) 18:02:06 srud__: throwing you in at the deep end here :) 18:02:11 any news? 18:02:35 We have a first draft ready.. we will be sending the final draft to debconf-team tomorrow 18:02:54 https://pad.sfconservancy.org/p/dc20_coc_enforcement 18:03:38 #info a procedure is being drafted, the final version will be sent to the -team mailing list tomorrow 18:03:43 Meantime it would be great to have a few names who have ability to ban people from the event 18:03:47 o/ late 18:04:07 I mean from the orga team 18:04:23 that sounds like a good plan 18:04:23 srud__: do we want people to put hands up now, or should they contact you after the meeting? 18:04:33 and some contact details (for the team) 18:04:39 nattie: either works for me 18:05:13 #info those interested in helping with CoC enforcement should contact srud__ 18:05:30 so, IRC: The unual Debian IRC Ops (see https://wiki.debian.org/IRC/Operators ) 18:05:30 (for those reading the minutes afterwards) 18:05:47 for jitsi: everyone in the room is an admin 18:06:18 for etherpad: if we need to lock it down, it'll probably be by creating a team in salsa, and needing people to be in it 18:06:22 haven't implemented that yet 18:06:25 but the contact there is probably me 18:06:28 tumbleweed: and hopefully some of the irc admins will be active during Debconf, in case anyone does something stupid aka harassing someone 18:06:32 tumbleweed: is having everyone as admin a good idea? 18:06:55 srud__: that's a bigger discussion that we can realistically have now 18:07:04 can or can't? 18:07:11 that's jitsi's model, and we'd have to do some work to replace it with a different model 18:07:15 terceiro: "than" 18:07:22 it probably isn't a good thing, but it's the only way to work around some of jitsi's current limitations for now 18:07:23 ah 18:07:36 but also jitsi is speakers only 18:07:37 yeah, I meant *than* we can have now 18:07:38 tumbleweed: we can have other models in jitsi also 18:07:49 srud__: not without breaking the rest of the stack 18:07:56 and, doing lots of work 18:08:00 that we're runnin gout of time for 18:08:20 hopefully everyone behaves 18:08:33 that is indeed always the hope 18:08:36 tumbleweed: just wondered.. Because one of our jitsi instances have a different model.. 18:08:38 terceiro: It's quite likely that some BoFs jitsi rooms will get published 18:08:56 It is anyway call of the video-team.. I was just curious 18:09:18 I'd like to support better auth, but I don't think it's realistic 18:10:11 Anyway I did not want to divert the discussions.. Let us continue the agenda items 18:10:41 in that case we need to have a plan on what to do if something happens during a BoF 18:11:27 should we discuss the details of interventions after the meeting? 18:11:34 +1 18:11:37 *shall 18:11:47 yes 18:11:56 +1 18:12:01 +1 18:12:07 #info details of interventions (in case of untoward behaviour during BoFs) will be discussed after the meeting 18:12:13 #undo 18:12:13 Removing item from minutes: 18:12:20 #agreed details of interventions (in case of untoward behaviour during BoFs) will be discussed after the meeting 18:12:26 haven't used that one in a while :) 18:12:37 #topic opening video 18:12:41 there's a script! 18:12:53 it doesn't say "in a world..." 18:12:59 awh 18:13:21 terceiro: tell us things please 18:13:26 nattie: It's a pad, it says whatever you want it to say... ;-) 18:13:26 I actually saw an interview with the "in a world ..." guy the other day :) 18:13:33 so 18:13:47 a few days ago I listed topics we need to be mentioned 18:13:54 tumbleweed complemented what I thought 18:14:03 then today I turned into a script of sorts 18:14:23 does... 18:14:25 I need someone to record a reading of it, and I can make it into a video with screenshots and whatnot 18:14:26 it have explosions? 18:14:34 * tumbleweed is happy to take a shot at it 18:14:36 it can have explosions 18:14:46 :D 18:14:51 terceiro: script looks good, but will be very short.. I think less than 5 mins is read 18:14:51 thanks for writing the script terceiro 18:14:57 *when 18:14:58 "in a world where Debian developers sat at home" 18:14:59 :D 18:15:02 i think we need to advise people to fasten their seatbelts 18:15:27 nattie: sound good ;) 18:15:51 I'm sure we can expand the script a bit 18:15:54 srud__: well, the lines don't need to be one after the other 18:15:57 I can add explosions 18:16:05 and other shenanigans in between :) 18:16:05 and hopefully get some bits of video from more organisers? 18:16:06 and seat-belt warnings! 18:16:31 terceiro: ah.. That's fine then.. Thanks for the script 18:16:34 tumbleweed: maybe we can get several people to record a few lines 18:17:06 this sounds like a plan 18:17:07 we could have several people record "welcome to debconf20" 18:17:13 we start with that 18:17:22 may be in their native language? 18:17:22 sounds like a plan 18:17:33 terceiro: a good idea.. Since this is a true global event, orga fr around the world would be interesting 18:17:42 DLange: if so i can record it in Swedish 18:18:35 ok, let's do the following. whoever would like to take part, put your name in the pad under "CAST" 18:18:57 #info those interested in taking part should sign up on the script pad 18:19:09 #link https://storm.debian.net/shared/Q4tvTL2nqqi6Gnkw_ziyXLuQw68R8livlwxLXoCpXfQ 18:19:17 (apologies for the long link) 18:19:55 I will then split the lines in some way, so you can record. I need to get the recordings back by Tue 18:20:14 shall we move on? 18:20:35 I think so 18:21:07 #topic bursary status 18:21:30 looks like almost everyone has their money 18:21:44 easiest bursary cycle ever 18:21:56 all but 3 according to the pad 18:22:03 #all but three recipients have been sent money; those who have not yet replied will receive one last ping around Wednesday 18:22:07 but they will also get an answer on Wednsday 18:22:11 bittin^: i was summarising 18:22:30 #info all but three recipients have been sent money; those who have not yet replied will receive one last ping around Wednesday 18:22:41 #topic t-shirts 18:22:59 #info shirts have been shipping! 18:23:16 those from Spain are going out today, as are those for LatAm from Brazil 18:23:25 others have gone out recently or are going out imminently 18:23:26 got an email from USPS that mine has been moved around in Spain and will be here in Sweden on Thursday or Friday 18:23:36 UPS even 18:23:42 i always confuse USPS and UPS 18:23:48 Indian ones are still pending shipping.. Hopefully in couple of days 18:23:52 USPS is the one that's in danger 18:24:13 #topic AoB 18:24:13 yeah i always confuse USPS and UPS for some reason 18:24:14 I know that ginggs got the SA/Africa t-shirts today too 18:24:25 anything else? 18:24:33 awesome! ginggs o/ 18:24:46 (pics or it didn't happen :)) 18:24:51 not from me won't have time to attend the last meeting tommorow becouse i am in another distros conference planning meeting at the same time 18:25:20 so when shall we (several) meet again, in thunder, lightning or in rain? 18:25:24 I don't have a pic, he was going to deliver but the rain was so heavy that he missed all three possible turn-offs from the highway to my place and then decided to just head home 18:25:34 gosh 18:25:50 do we need another meeting this week? 18:26:15 terceiro: there was some suggestions to have a short one 17:00 UTC tommorow i read, but maybe thats not needed 18:26:20 terceiro: I would say yes 18:26:22 I'd like a budget update from the T-Shirt team but that can be outside a meeting 18:26:35 DLange: yeah, I haven't seen any invoices yet 18:26:43 if we need we could do it Thu or Fri? 18:26:44 DLange: we'll supply that when we get invoiced 18:26:48 Thu is videoteam 18:26:53 Fri then 18:26:57 tumbleweed: I have invoice.. Where to /how to share? 18:27:02 Fri sounds good 18:27:06 srud__: into the budget folder in git please 18:27:09 as in "all systems go?" 18:27:10 1800 UTC? 18:27:12 or email me, and I'll sort it out 18:27:18 tumbleweed: thanks 18:27:29 nattie: WFM 18:27:38 wfm as well 18:27:44 Wfm too 18:27:45 do we need to establish any systems for team members on call? 18:27:51 I'd imagine most people will be around when they're awake 18:27:52 #agreed next meeting Friday 21 August, 1800 UTC 18:27:53 so probably not 18:27:59 nattie: Friday 18:00 UTC WFM :) too 18:28:03 unless there are specific things to be on call for 18:28:09 tumbleweed: sort that out after the meeting? 18:28:13 (video team has some of those, AH too, I'd guess) 18:28:15 nattie: sure 18:28:16 of course, if something pops up, 18:28:17 then it does not collide with the Arch Plannign Meeting and guess not much happening at Debcamp Online :P 18:28:20 but i also think we'd generally be around 18:28:22 shout on IRC don't wait for a meeting 18:28:34 that too 18:28:38 we good to close? 18:28:46 #endmeeting