14:28:42 #startmeeting 14:28:42 Meeting started Thu Jun 7 14:28:42 2018 UTC. The chair is czchen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:28:42 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:28:51 #topic roll call 14:28:55 o/ 14:29:00 hello 14:29:01 Please sat hi if you are in this meeting 14:29:08 hi o/ 14:29:10 hi 14:29:10 ._.///// 14:29:11 Also, please update meeting agenda in https://deb.li/3OYuV 14:29:50 hi 14:29:55 hi 14:30:03 hihi 14:30:06 I think it might be necessary to move the first item back a little bit 14:30:23 first item? 14:30:25 because the person speaking on it has just stepped away for a moment 14:30:29 about the NCTU situation 14:30:55 okay, just a few quick update than 14:31:04 #topic Budget 14:31:14 thanks 14:31:27 #info NCTU venue fee should be settled down really soon™ 14:31:44 No other update for this one? 14:31:53 it will be addressed in a moment 14:32:11 than we go to next topic 14:32:17 To my knowledge, there is work being done on settling it 14:32:17 #topic Venue 14:32:40 #action czchen will check with NCTU about classroom in engineering build 3 14:32:52 sounds good 14:32:59 #info NCTU will book the classrooms in Jun 12. 14:33:03 Anything else? 14:33:20 not to my knowledge 14:33:24 #topic Communications 14:33:31 jidanni your turn? 14:33:52 I think he already gave us his take in the agenda. 14:34:20 okay, then next one 14:34:23 #topic Visa 14:34:38 We will send the request to eCode 1 ~ 1.5 months before the conference. 14:35:01 let's just work out the deadline now 14:35:14 are we aiming for a month from the start of debcamp, or of debconf proper? 14:35:17 Any channel to announce the deadline? 14:35:36 In government document, they suggests 1 ~ 1.5 months prior the event 14:35:38 wafer can send out an email to all attendees, and we can also post it to debconf-announce 14:36:04 well, it's very close to 1.5 months before the start of debcamp 14:36:15 so let's send it now 14:36:23 okay, I will prepare the announcement. 14:36:25 some update to debconf-announce wouldn't be bad 14:36:34 (bring towels etc.) 14:36:38 #action czchen will prepare the announcement for VISA eCode deadline. 14:37:00 this Saturday would be 6 weeks before start of Debcamp 14:37:44 I would say we need to send the request no later than Jun 16. 14:38:10 #info We need to send eCode request to government no later than Jun 16. 14:38:14 Anything else? 14:38:32 Hi 14:38:36 that's all to my knowledge 14:38:40 #topic Insurance 14:39:30 OCF.tw want us to increase the insurance for personal injure to match the regulation in Taipei. 14:39:43 how much would the increase be concretely? 14:40:14 Need to check price with Macy. 14:41:13 OK. let us know once you know, please? 14:41:18 okay 14:41:29 thanks 14:41:39 #action czchen will check new insurance price as requested by OCF.tw 14:41:49 #topic Job Fair 14:42:12 template is almost ready, I will guess the table/chair part and make it ready soon. 14:42:39 +1 14:42:46 #czchen will finisht the job fair email template. 14:43:04 Anything else? 14:43:15 zumbi: anything you wanted to add to the sponsor email^? (so we don't have to send two) 14:44:01 #info the email template for job fair is in https://salsa.debian.org/debconf-team/sponsors/sponsors/blob/master/dc18/fulfillment/jobfair_confirm_template.txt 14:44:26 okay, let us move to next topic 14:44:37 #topic Childcare 14:44:39 gavin: 14:44:39 I think some company will get silver level in the future 14:44:59 Is Gavin in the house? 14:44:59 I'm hiring two sitters 14:45:12 I've received three resumes 14:45:20 #1 and #2 seem to be the best option as #3 is unresponsive 14:45:25 resumes in brief here: https://lists.debian.org/debconf-team/2018/06/msg00005.html 14:45:32 yeah 14:45:39 sounds good to me 14:45:57 #info The resumes for sitters are in https://lists.debian.org/debconf-team/2018/06/msg00005.html 14:45:59 most likely the first and second one 14:46:15 DLange: czchen: I'll review sponsors email after the meeting (I am in a parallel meeting) 14:46:28 i like first and second. 14:46:31 zumbi: great. 14:46:45 zumbi: thanks, push ammendments to the git link czchen pasted above please 14:46:49 yeah, the third one says a lot less 14:47:08 I think we can discuss offline about who we shall hire. 14:47:15 Anything else about this topic? 14:47:21 I will communicate to them if the third one no reply 14:47:25 this weekend 14:47:52 #action gavin will communicate to them if the third one no reply this weekend 14:48:03 #topic Day Trip 14:48:15 How many attendees? 14:48:28 For conference? 14:48:46 So I can compute how many buses neede. 14:49:15 416 registrations as of now 14:49:32 bearing in mind that not everybody goes on the daytrip 14:49:40 or show up 14:49:42 and 20% won't show up 14:49:46 OK thank you. 14:50:05 the locals that walk in (if any) won't go on the daytrip usually 14:50:13 OK. 14:50:45 anything else about day trip? 14:50:55 Done. 14:51:10 #topic Miscellaneous 14:51:21 Communications: 14:51:28 Attendeeds haven' 14:51:32 Confirmation mails were sent on registration 14:51:43 t heard anything after that. 14:51:57 There will be a mailshot when the Reconfirmation deadline approaches 14:52:19 Queries on bursary status have been responded to with the information that they will be revealed in due course. 14:52:36 All I know is months have gone by... with no Communications. 14:53:16 Fine. 14:53:42 I'd like a change on the openday schedule 14:53:58 NOPE. I will talk to zumbi offline. 14:54:09 change to? 14:54:43 oh! I understood Miscellaneous as AnyOtherBussiness 14:54:57 not sure if open day is on topic in this section 14:54:58 it *is* AOB 14:55:25 https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf18/OpenDay#International_Conference_Hall 14:55:42 we open the conference with gender/diversity forum 14:55:51 The minister is coming espciallay early at 1000. 14:56:14 I think we should open with more FOSS oriented talk 14:56:32 the conference is not gender/diversity related (even we care about it) 14:56:41 We have promised gender/diversity leader that this year Debian is serious about gender/diversity and is not moving it to a side room. 14:57:26 still, first talk in simulcast I think needs to be more on the FOSS topic than gender/diversity 14:57:29 That is how we have invited the speakers / guests. See Debianwomen mailing list. 14:58:22 anyway, I just wanted to express my opinion, that's about it, thanks 14:58:39 We will be discussing Debians gender/diversity policy statement. 14:59:15 szlin: Do we have any update on catering? 14:59:19 Thanks for your opiniuon. 14:59:41 jidanni: all that is quite fine, but I think it should not be at the opening, but for later, we should open with FOSS -- but if I am the only one that disagree feel free to ignore me 14:59:43 czchen: yes, Andrew finded the supplier 14:59:56 jidanni: perhaps rename to "Gender/Diversity in Free Software forum" 15:00:30 The time is fixed due to agreements with the minister and hosts and guests. 15:01:05 If you still want to move it to a side room you need to discuss it with Debianwomen and leader imacat. 15:01:13 jidanni: ok, then I guess it'll be hard to change 15:01:43 If anybody wants to change the name then please discuss it with Debianwomen and leader imacat. 15:02:42 jidanni: ok 15:03:21 Note the minister is coming 10-12, espcially early for this. 15:03:34 Rename seem to be a good solution for me. Anyway, we can discuss this offline.] 15:03:41 I'm not on that ML, pls. suggest to include Free Software in the title 15:04:03 #action zumbi to suggest to include Free Software in opening talk 15:04:07 We are discussing Gender/Diversity in Debian. 15:04:08 this is what DebConf is about and we want to be both on topic and attract people to join the sessions 15:04:36 so name it like that and have less issue with people that think you are discussing the world and not Free Software related 15:04:53 Also please invite NCTU President for opening 09:20. 15:05:04 jidanni: Since we are discussing Gender/Diversity in Debian, put Free Software to title is a reasonable change. 15:05:36 Please discuss title of session with imacat. 15:06:13 We will do it offline. 15:06:18 We have already renamed it several times so you need to check with imacat. 15:06:30 czchen: close the meeting? 15:06:42 Any title is fine with me but ask imacat. 15:06:57 next meeting time? Jun 14? 15:07:04 agree 15:07:06 yeah, sure, same thing next week, why not 15:07:21 Need to invite President of NCTU for opening ceremony. 15:08:03 #agreed The next meeting time will be Jun 14, 14:30 UTC. 15:08:31 #endmeeting